Why didnt the professor sense Scott's death?

[TKing]

I think she was controlling the powers pretty well.

Phoenix was unleashed, and for whatever reason, killed Cyclops. But Phoenix did it very willingly and knowingly.

But then it begs the question: if Phoenix lashed out at the man she/Jean Grey loved, when she arrived at the Institute why didn't she kill Storm, Xavier, Logan and the others immediately? Why did she decide just to get up and go?

 

[X-Maniac]

But then it begs the question: if Phoenix lashed out at the man she/Jean Grey loved, when she arrived at the Institute why didn't she kill Storm, Xavier, Logan and the others immediately? Why did she decide just to get up and go?

I believe the battle that was at Jean's house was originally going to be at the mansion. Professor Xavier was going to be destroyed in his office in the mansion. So when she gets up and leaves, she is (in the original story) going to find Xavier.

This was changed to make it happen at Jean's house. In the comics, the Dark Phoenix does indeed turn up at her parents' house. And placing the battle at Jean's house reflects back on the origin scene at the beginning of the movie, with Magneto and Xavier once again going to see Jean. The battle was placed at Jean's house for thematic purposes.

 

[TKing]

I believe the battle that was at Jean's house was originally going to be at the mansion. Professor Xavier was going to be destroyed in his office in the mansion. So when she gets up and leaves, she is (in the original story) going to find Xavier.

This was changed to make it happen at Jean's house. In the comics, the Dark Phoenix does indeed turn up at her parents' house. And placing the battle at Jean's house reflects back on the origin scene at the beginning of the movie, with Charles and Xavier once again going to see Jean. The battle was placed at Jean's house for thematic purposes.

That makes more sense. It's better that the fight takes place at Jean's house. It shows how Jean's powers have progressed, but now both Xavier and Magneto want her for different purposes.

Although she still could have killed Logan when she woke up in the infirmary. That part still confuses me.

 

[X-Maniac]

That makes more sense. It's better that the fight takes place at Jean's house. It shows how Jean's powers have progressed, but now both Xavier and Magneto want her for different purposes.

Although she still could have killed Logan when she woke up in the infirmary. That part still confuses me.

You're thinking about it much too hard!

She doesn't kill Logan because she doesn't kill Logan. Wolverine and Phoenix are similar (as Claremont himself said in a comicbook interview). Logan's primal, animalistic, instinctual, violent nature is very much like that of the Phoenix. As Phoenix, she sees him as a kindred spirit, a wild creature who wants to be free. He hasn't done anything to harm her or cage her.

 

[TKing]

You're thinking about it much too hard!

She doesn't kill Logan because she doesn't kill Logan. Wolverine and Phoenix are similar (as Claremont himself said in a comicbook interview). Logan's primal, animalistic, instinctual, violent nature is very much like that of the Phoenix. As Phoenix, she sees him as a kindred spirit, a wild creature who wants to be free. He hasn't done anything to harm her or cage her.

Okay, Mr Know It All. I didn't ask for a lecture. t:

 

[javon]

Professor Xavier isn't a fortuneteller.

No, but he's worlds most powerful telepath .

Originally posted by Lightning Strikez!
For the same reason he didn't somehow sense Jean's awakening, yet Callisto could.

It's called "A Plot Hole."

And the list of them is long. LOL t:

LMAO!

 

[chaseter]

Yes - we saw him get a psychic fluctuation at the moment of scott's death, but what about afterwards? Why didnt he sense that he was gone? As we all know the professor is psychicly linked to all the mutants, I would assume he woulda sensed that he was no longer alive before Logan/Jean scene in the mansion and done something about it.

He sensed something was wrong when it happened. The whole mansion felt it. True the professor is linked to all mutant, but can only be pinpoint accurate with Cerebro over long distances. Alkali lake is pretty far from the mansion. He only found out Scott was dead from getting into Jean's mind...he even mentions it at Jean's house..."You killed the man you love." Logan thought Jean killed Scott but I am sure the professor knew it...but was more worried about finding out where Jean was because of how big a threat Phoenix is. The Professor really can't do anything about it. He was trying to restore the mental blocks in Jean's mind so that Phoenix could not come out and play.

 

[the a1ant]

I agree. Xavier would've needed Cerebro to sense Cyclops was dead, just how he needed Cerebro to sense where Nightcrawler was in X2, and Rogue was in X1...he could sense that she was gone, but not where she was, or if she was ok. I believe that he truly knew Scott was dead when he came to Jean's house, and sensed it through her, since that was the first time he said outloud that she killed Scott. At least, that's my explanation

 

[gap5ewl]

PROFESSOR X SENSED SOMETHING HAPPENED TO SCOTT THATS WHY HE TELEPATHICALLY WHISPERED HIS NAME ALL OVER THE MANSION RIGHT AFTER THE KISSING SCENE. I think jean and xavier didnt know what happened to him though because jean probally scrambled the professors memory when it happened

 

[sc12een17am3]

i thought the whisper was from Jean to Pro X which he distrubuted amongst the house since it was so great?

and i would think Pro X would need the Cerebro to know if Cyke is dead or not and since we werent shown if used Cerebro we can assume he didnt know he was dead. we can also assume he found out the confirmation of his death when he found Wolverine on the floor when Jean "escaped". Wolvoe prob told him what Jean said, "kill me before i kill again"

 

[gap5ewl]

know listen carefully..its professor x's voice. Also Ratner and crew say so as well in the commentary. They also say they were gonna have Xavier scream "SCOTT!" but decided the telepathy was cooler.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

i dun think telepathy or not will b cooler or not... it'll b the same

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Although she still could have killed Logan when she woke up in the infirmary. That part still confuses me.

Because she just doesn't.

Because a person kills once, doesn't automatically they have to kill again whenever they come into contact with someone.

The question rather, is why did she kill Scott? I see it as her use of power (rising, and holding back Scott's optic blasts) awoke Phoenix (Jean's mental state would be very fragile after enduring what she did at Alkali Lake, giving the Phoenix personality a strong opening to take over, and the slightest nudge, such as her power use on Cyclops, would bring that out), but throughout the film, Phoenix is only shown to become hostile when threatened by being "locked up" again... Scott did nothing of the sort, he showed love and compassion for seeing the woman he loved back from the dead...

So not only was that killing totally studio politics motivated, but it totally comes off that way as well, as there's no REAL explanation for why Phoenix would kill him.

Unless she thinks he's going to help to lock her up again...

 

[TKing]

Unless she thinks he's going to help to lock her up again...

When did he lock her up in the first place?

 

[sc12een17am3]

Phoenix prob killed Scott, even though not being shown threating her, cause Phoenix perfers Wolvie. its Jean's good side that chooses the goodie Scott while Phoenix chooses the raging Wolvie. thats prob y Phoenix seemed upset that Wolvie now is "tammed" and ended up rejecting him altogether. Wolvie would have died also at the final battle if not for his healing factor

 

[Cyclops]

When did he lock her up in the first place?

Well, it will be retconned in a later film that they were into kinky bondage sex and Phoenix didn't like that.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

kinky bondage sex? Why would Phoenix not like that? -covers his avatar with one hand- you didn't see that.

 

[Cyclops]

Because Phoenix doesn't like being locked up, duh.

 

[TKing]

Then why did she trap herself in a cocoon of telekinetic energy?

 

[Cyclops]

Do NOT expect X-Men The Last Stand to make sense. You'll just end up hurting your brain.