Why Do Republicans Appear To Be So Disrespectful to President Obama?

[Thundercrack85]

Race is a factor though. I just find it silly to suggest that it isn't. Again, if Obama's dad was a white Canadian, would this be an issue? Maybe a few people on the internet, you know, those guys who never met a conspiracy theory they didn't like might talk about it. But would Republican really play that card? I think if you're honest you would have to say no.

Xenophobia and racism very often overlap. Same with religion (anti-Arab / Muslim statements).

 

[summerteeth]

Race is a factor though. I just find it silly to suggest that it isn't. Again, if Obama's dad was a white Canadian, would this be an issue? Maybe a few people on the internet, you know, those guys who never met a conspiracy theory they didn't like might talk about it. But would Republican really play that card? I think if you're honest you would have to say no.

Xenophobia and racism very often overlap. Same with religion (anti-Arab / Muslim statements).

I guess my post about McCain is getting ignored. Given that McCain's dad was an American soldier and he had to deal with this issue yes, if Obama's dad was a white Canadian it would have been an issue. Also, Cheser A. Arthur actually had to deal with his own version of the birthers claiming he was born in Canada and not Vermont. Mccain twice he had to deal with people saying that he wasn't a "natural born citizen" and couldn't become President. Had he won the Presidency there would have been a Democratic version of "the birthers". It has everything to do with trying to delegitimize the other side's President more than it has to do with race. I know that doesn't fit into the liberal narrative but it's the truth. I mean after all it was supporters of Hillary who started the birther movement against Obama long before the Tea Party joined in.

 

[Reef Goddess]

They hide their racism under the guise of differentiating political opinions.

 

[DawnOfJustice16]

I think it is the the other way around. Why is Obama so disrespectful to republicans ?

 

[Grievous]

This title is just silly, I can easily turn around and ask why did Democrats appear to be so disrespectful to President Bush?

 

[ShadowBoxer]

They hide their racism under the guise of differentiating political opinions.

Pretty much this.

 

[Thundercrack85]

This title is just silly, I can easily turn around and ask why did Democrats appear to be so disrespectful to President Bush?

His election lacked legitimacy in the eyes of many. He started a war in Iraq on bad intelligence (assuming you don't think he just outright lied) with no exit plan, costing the lives of thousands of American soldiers, and creating the wonderful situation we have today. Not to mention turning most of the world against America post 9/11.

Domestically, e blew a surplus, and gave the rich tax cuts they didn't need. He surrounded himself with dubious characters, and gave his friends no bid contracts.

Now granted, Democrats weren't going to be happy with any Republican. But Bush is the poster boy for all things wrong with the Republican party.

An anti-intellectual chicken hawk product of nepotism.

 

[summerteeth]

Pretty much this.

I'm still waiting for evidence of this. So far nobody in here as brought up anything that hasn't happened to previous Presidents or candidates for the office. Heck, Clinton was impeached and he was probably the most conservative President since Reagan (as far as policy goes) and the Republicans still hated him. It seems to me that it is more based on a feeling than anything else. Not denying that some people are racist, but that it represents any large amount of those who are "disrespectful" to him is not really based on any sort of evidence or fact as far as I can see. But again if I am wrong please prove me wrong.

 

[SV Fan]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309.html

Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

The former New York mayor makes his remarks at a Scott Walker event.

NEW YORK — Rudy Giuliani went straight for the jugular Wednesday night during a private group dinner here featuring Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker by openly questioning whether President Barack Obama “loves America.”

The former New York mayor, speaking in front of the 2016 Republican presidential contender and about 60 right-leaning business executives and conservative media types, directly challenged Obama’s patriotism, discussing what he called weak foreign policy decisions and questionable public remarks when confronting terrorists.

“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

So Obama wasn't brought up the normal American way according to Rudy

 

[chaseter]

This title is just silly, I can easily turn around and ask why did Democrats appear to be so disrespectful to President Bush?

Make a thread on it or let's call for this pointless thread to be deleted forever.

 

[CaptainCraig]

His election lacked legitimacy in the eyes of many.

Your "many" are either conspiracy theorists, ignorant of how the Electoral College works, simply bitter or all three.

He started a war in Iraq on bad intelligence (assuming you don't think he just outright lied) with no exit plan

Intelligence that Democrats backed, that the WORLD backed...but, yeah, hey to the biased it was JUST Bush, JUST the GOP. Hysterically Laughable "Point". Exit Plan, we see where EXITING the Middle East has gotten us--ISIS. Beautiful "Plan", exit cause you've not got the spine to see it through.

costing the lives of thousands of American soldiers

soldiers and their families who understood the mission yet when the brilliant "exit plan" by the Democrats was instituted their mission and sacrifice was made vain.

and creating the wonderful situation we have today.

No, that was you and your Democrats Exit Plan that built the situation we have today. ISIS is the result of Obama and the Dems failed foreign policy surrounding the War on Terror...oh, wait you guys don't have the nerve to call it that. I forget the bull***** name the Administration gave it cause it's so forgettable and insincere.

Not to mention turning most of the world against America post 9/11.

the strong coalition against terror would disagree. a few dozen radicals in the streets does not constitute "the world".

Domestically, he blew a surplus,

A-It was strictly a surplus on paper
B-Fighting the Extreme Jihadist gets my full support but maybe you enjoy seeing people's heads cut off and burned alive in cages.

and gave the rich tax cuts they didn't need.

I'm sorry that as a grown adult you don't realize how many powerful and rich, filthy stinking rich people back the Democrat party and that "tax cuts" have been done by both parties for, well, damn near ever in recent politics. But by all means keep your blinders on.

He surrounded himself with dubious characters,

Oh, like Eric Holder w/Fast&Furious, or how about Tim Geithner Obama's Sec of Treasury who cheated on his taxes. Add in coverups about Benghazi, VA scandal, Solyndra and those are dubious people involved.

and gave his friends no bid contracts.

Speaking of Solyndra, oh and no bid contracts jump by 9% under Obama
I'm sorry, did Rachel Maddow not cover that? John Stewart not make a joke about this for you?

Now granted, Democrats weren't going to be happy with any Republican. But Bush is the poster boy for all things wrong with the Republican party.

No, Bush was the target of a vindictive media and a slew of malleable Millennial Minds who don't know better and used the GD Daily Show as it's source of news.
Obama is everything wrong with Liberals followed by Pelosi and Reid.

An anti-intellectual chicken hawk product of nepotism.

Anti-intellectual...except when he was a crazy genius.
Nepotism...I bet you fully back Hillary Clinton for President.

Enjoy your tunnel vision, those blinders prevent you from ever seeing the larger picture of the world.

 

[chaseter]

I do love when the left say Clinton left a surplus that Bush ruined. Clinton still added to the national debt and they have no idea how budgets/deficits work. It's the left's greatest uneducated meme. While I do respect Clinton's time in office, he succeeded with the help of the Republicans in a bipartisan effort. I've explained Clinton's surplus on here before and some people just ignore it willfully. I can make my household budget one billion dollars and tell the neighbors how great I am at budgeting that I came in under budget after the FY and now have a surplus of $999.9 million dollars because I only spent $100k.

I would bet all the money I have that a 3:4+ majority of Dems polled would believe Clinton reduced the national debt.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309.html

giuliani: obama had a white mother, so i'm not a racist

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-obama-had-a-white-mother-so-im-not-a-racist/

 

[Thundercrack85]

Your "many" are either conspiracy theorists, ignorant of how the Electoral College works, simply bitter or all three.


Intelligence that Democrats backed, that the WORLD backed...but, yeah, hey to the biased it was JUST Bush, JUST the GOP. Hysterically Laughable "Point". Exit Plan, we see where EXITING the Middle East has gotten us--ISIS. Beautiful "Plan", exit cause you've not got the spine to see it through.

soldiers and their families who understood the mission yet when the brilliant "exit plan" by the Democrats was instituted their mission and sacrifice was made vain.

No, that was you and your Democrats Exit Plan that built the situation we have today. ISIS is the result of Obama and the Dems failed foreign policy surrounding the War on Terror...oh, wait you guys don't have the nerve to call it that. I forget the bull***** name the Administration gave it cause it's so forgettable and insincere.

the strong coalition against terror would disagree. a few dozen radicals in the streets does not constitute "the world".


A-It was strictly a surplus on paper
B-Fighting the Extreme Jihadist gets my full support but maybe you enjoy seeing people's heads cut off and burned alive in cages.

I'm sorry that as a grown adult you don't realize how many powerful and rich, filthy stinking rich people back the Democrat party and that "tax cuts" have been done by both parties for, well, damn near ever in recent politics. But by all means keep your blinders on.


Oh, like Eric Holder w/Fast&Furious, or how about Tim Geithner Obama's Sec of Treasury who cheated on his taxes. Add in coverups about Benghazi, VA scandal, Solyndra and those are dubious people involved.

Speaking of Solyndra, oh and no bid contracts jump by 9% under Obama
I'm sorry, did Rachel Maddow not cover that? John Stewart not make a joke about this for you?


No, Bush was the target of a vindictive media and a slew of malleable Millennial Minds who don't know better and used the GD Daily Show as it's source of news.
Obama is everything wrong with Liberals followed by Pelosi and Reid.


Anti-intellectual...except when he was a crazy genius.
Nepotism...I bet you fully back Hillary Clinton for President.

Enjoy your tunnel vision, those blinders prevent you from ever seeing the larger picture of the world.

Craig, just out of curiosity, did you disagree with anything Bush did?

You sound like you should be on Fox News.

Also, I can't stand Hillary.

 

[Thundercrack85]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rudy-giuliani-president-obama-doesnt-love-america-115309.html

So Obama wasn't brought up the normal American way according to Rudy

Well he's not wrong. At least about the typical American upbringing.

Though love when it comes to countries is a funny thing. People seem to love their ideologically skewed view of one.

 

[SV Fan]

Though love when it comes to countries is a funny thing. People seem to love their ideologically skewed view of one.

The republicans definitely love pushing the idea of real Americans and real America and being a patriot or not and it also seems like if you don't believe what they believe then you not part of those groups. I guess rhetoric like that works with their base that truly want to hear how they are real Americans and patriots(as if somebody telling you that has any validity)



I cracked up when I heard Newt Gingrich use this song on his campaign, but I guess it's to the point

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah. I remember Sarah Palin went on about that at length.

But the Republican party has been anti-urban for quite some time.

Then again, I think it's all racial code.

 

[SV Fan]

Then again, I think it's all racial code.

I think the correct term is a dog whistle. What is and isn't a "patriot" is one's personal opinion, so the person listening just fills in whatever they believe doesn't make Obama a "patriot" into Rudy's statement.

It's basically code for fill whatever you think doesn't make Obama American into my statement

 

[Destructus86]

Well, as a Christian i've seen that other people who claim to be Christian seem to have this sort of victim mentality...a bit of paranoia that the government (Obama) is out to get them. No matter what he does...it's obviously an "attack" on Christians who view themselves from the perspective of moralistic nationalism.

I'm not saying all Christians have this viewpoint, not even the majority. I think it's just a VERY loud minority.

 

[CaptainCraig]

Craig, just out of curiosity, did you disagree with anything Bush did?

I think he shouldn't have been so limiting on Stem Cell Research.
I could see how his No Child Left Behind was a good intentions bill, but not a practical one.
That first Bail Out was bad and a trend the Obama Administration should've learned from but didn't.
Sarbanes-Oxley is a mixed bag.
Just a few off hand, probably a few more if I really thought on it longer.
Objective enough for now for you?

You sound like you should be on Fox News.

I know you mean this as a slam. You realize your post sounded like it came right off of Chris Matthews tele prompter though, yes?
What you really don't like are the Fox News Commentators, O'Reilly, Hannity etc.
The actual hard news is solid. I will say the jokers on their morning show often say things that make me roll my eyes as well. Their morning show, not hard news.

Also, I can't stand Hillary.

We agree.

 

[summerteeth]

I think he shouldn't have been so limiting on Stem Cell Research.
I could see how his No Child Left Behind was a good intentions bill, but not a practical one.
That first Bail Out was bad and a trend the Obama Administration should've learned from but didn't.
Sarbanes-Oxley is a mixed bag.
Just a few off hand, probably a few more if I really thought on it longer.
Objective enough for now for you?


I know you mean this as a slam. You realize your post sounded like it came right off of Chris Matthews tele prompter though, yes?
What you really don't like are the Fox News Commentators, O'Reilly, Hannity etc.
The actual hard news is solid. I will say the jokers on their morning show often say things that make me roll my eyes as well. Their morning show, not hard news.


We agree.

Interesting you included probably the best thing Bush ever did in one of the negatives. TARP and Bernanke were absolutely crucial to dragging us out of the recession. Two things Bush got right. The stimulus was a mere band aid without TARP and moneterism who knows where we would be. I think history will actually look back much better on Bush because of TARP. He'll go down as not being Hoover and intervening in the economy in an effective way that staved off a depression. I mean basically he will be made to look good because of who he will be compared too, but still...it will be interesting to see if that plays out.

 

[Inhumans]

I think it is the the other way around. Why is Obama so disrespectful to republicans ?

In what ways exactly?

Obama has very pro-Republican business policies, more so than any recent Democratic president. It doesn't matter if he was Regan reincarnated because they have no interest in working with him.

Consider that Obamacare was a Republican idea that Republicans decided they wanted nothing to do with after Obama became a supporter of it, and the ACA has been a big boost to the economy. Had they not been "Obamacare" is the devil they could tout that their ideas work, but instead they continue to talk about repealing it.

 

[summerteeth]

In what ways exactly?

Obama has very pro-Republican business policies, more so than any recent Democratic president. It doesn't matter if he was Regan reincarnated because they have no interest in working with him.

Consider that Obamacare was a Republican idea that Republicans decided they wanted nothing to do with after Obama became a supporter of it, and the ACA has been a big boost to the economy. Had they not been "Obamacare" is the devil they could tout that their ideas work, but instead they continue to talk about repealing it.

Well considering the only recent Democratic President is Clinton. I'd like to know how he was more pro business than Clinton. Clinton did sign NAFTA after all.

That Obamacare line is really tiring And has been refuted many times. We are talking about am idea that was brought up nearly 20 years ago that gained no real traction in the Republican Party. But let's ignore all that.

 

[herakles]

I think anyone who thinks race isn't a factor in all this is either really naive, or just in deep denial.

The thing is, Obama is a mediocre liberal. With the exception of gay rights – which isn't even as divisive as it once was – and possibly abortion, Obama is pretty damn centrist, if not even slightly conservative.

By comparison Bush was about as conservative as you can get. On every issue. There's a reason Bush remains such a controversial president. His first term lacked legitimacy in the eyes of Democrats thanks to America's bizarre election system. Then there's him being a champion of the religious right, the military industrial complex and corporations intelligence. And then there's starting that war on bad intelligence (if you believe he wasn't outright lying) and all the corruption. Not to mention making the rich richer and the poor poorer with his tax cuts, and other super conservative fiscal policies. You've heard all this before.

My point is, Democrats had very good reasons to hate Bush. He was not just a terrible president, but embodied everything they disliked politically.

Obama on the other hand... is a milquetoast liberal who either due to incompetence, or pragmatism has adopted a number of Republican ideas.

So why this insane hatred? Gee, it's almost like there's something different about him. What could it be? Maybe it's because he's from Hawaii.

You are saying the same thing that Conservatives are saying about President Obama.

I honestly think for some it is about the color of his skin but for most it is just about his Political party membership. Look Democrats VILIFIED Bush and posted horrible memes on Myspace and early Facebook.

At the end of the day people just like to ***** and moan.

 

[herakles]

In what ways exactly?

Obama has very pro-Republican business policies, more so than any recent Democratic president. It doesn't matter if he was Regan reincarnated because they have no interest in working with him.

Consider that Obamacare was a Republican idea that Republicans decided they wanted nothing to do with after Obama became a supporter of it, and the ACA has been a big boost to the economy. Had they not been "Obamacare" is the devil they could tout that their ideas work, but instead they continue to talk about repealing it.

Obama RIPPED into Bush while a Jr Senator. He was disrespectful during his campaign and first 2 years of his 1st term.