First Avenger Why Does Everyone Want a Body-Building Captain America?

[Red Mask]

Middleweight. I tell ya, the limit should be middleweight.

 

[Chris Wallace]

But Reb Brown isn't wearing a muscle suit...he's just wearing spandex...and hes a big guy. A suit that inhances the actors musculature...not creates it, is what I want.

I don't want a Vinny Jones Juggernaut, I want a Hellboy type body suit worn under clothes to create the illusion of great muscle mass (if the actor selected is not not capable of putting on enough muscle in the short time before filming)

The plus side of getting a skinnier actor (for the first movie) is the ability to be able to play "skinny" Steve Rogers believably.

Rage

You aren't really disagreeing with me.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Middleweight. I tell ya, the limit should be middleweight.

Define "middleweight".
I still think Bale's build is reasonable.

 

[Triad]

I could get on board with someone as big as Bale was in that picture...I still say that it's too bad he didn't keep that physique for the whole movie and the sequel! If I'm not mistaken, that was from early in BB's shooting when he first built himself back up after coming off making "The Machinist". Nolan then supposedly asked him to tone it down for the rest of filming. No one can deny that he's in great shape no matter what build he had at any given reference point, though.
We definitely need someone for Cap that is a bit on the extra buffed-side, but not necessarily too big as some suggest.

 

[COAL TIGER]

Paul Walker would be a good choice. Marvel should get him. He's tall and he looks like a male model. I don't know how big he can get because he seems to be very slim when he doesn't pack on muscle. But he can just pack on as much mucsle as he can and they can add some patings to the costume.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Walker is not a great actor. He is decent at times, but doesn't have the presence for Cap, imo. Cap needs presence (I'm not talking physically, I am talking you can't look away from him).

 

[The Major]

Arc:

Walker can get the look but he has serious negatives to deal with.

I've only seen one good performance from him. Does he always have that ability? Maybe, but maybe not. For Cap they need someone more reliable in the acting department.

Credibility. The public sees him as the male version of Jessica Alba. They have to respect him or they aren't going to respect Cap.

He chooses bad movies most of the time which are lowest common denominator stuff. If the script is really good he might not be interested. In that case he's replaceable.

He doesn't have the charisma his rivals do. Matt Damon could steal scene effortlessly in this role, Walker would find it tougher to get the audiences attention since he's only a mediocre to good actor, not a great one.

 

[Red Mask]

Define "middleweight".
I still think Bale's build is reasonable.

Okay. Captain America is six feet tall. So middleweight for him would be - what? 165-174lbs? He's got to be more cut than Bale. That picture doesn't do any bodybuilders justice. I agree that his waist line should be slimmer, with six pack abs. But the costume with belt with cover that anyway. Captain Britain is just a taller version of guys like Dorian Yates. But he's definitely heavyweight.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I dont think he has to be more cut than Bale mostly because I dont anticipate many shirtless scenes. For the moment, I think size is the biggest concern. The future may hold topless Cap scenes but a WWII movie on the battlefield I dont think he take off his symbolism very much. That way the actor can work on it in the same way Jackman has. Im almost certain that he got so jacked because of the Wolverine role. He was relatively slim in X1 compared to now.

 

[Pluto]

I dont think he has to be more cut than Bale mostly because I dont anticipate many shirtless scenes. For the moment, I think size is the biggest concern. The future may hold topless Cap scenes but a WWII movie on the battlefield I dont think he take off his symbolism very much. That way the actor can work on it in the same way Jackman has. Im almost certain that he got so jacked because of the Wolverine role. He was relatively slim in X1 compared to now.

Not being cut shows in the face too. Bale looks bloated and puffy and not too good other than his "size" in that picture which is mostly water and high carbohydrates filling him out. Captain America's face is always structured very very well. If I see a double chin I will just laugh! LOL.
Know what I mean? I thought Bale's face looked better in TDK but of course he looked really small and very weak. So really you're right it's a hard to get the right balance especially with the thin pickins in hollywood. The more I think of it I could really see Matthew Mc being Captain America. I think if he got bigger his face would still look good and he's not that bad right now muscle wise - at least compared to damon and pitt.
To top it off he's really intense in his acting and I think he could really bring a strong personality to the role.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Not being cut shows in the face too. Bale looks bloated and puffy and not too good other than his "size" in that picture which is mostly water and high carbohydrates filling him out. Captain America's face is always structured very very well. If I see a double chin I will just laugh! LOL.
Know what I mean? I thought Bale's face looked better in TDK but of course he looked really small and very weak. So really you're right it's a hard to get the right balance especially with the thin pickins in hollywood. The more I think of it I could really see Matthew Mc being Captain America. I think if he got bigger his face would still look good and he's not that bad right now muscle wise - at least compared to damon and pitt.
To top it off he's really intense in his acting and I think he could really bring a strong personality to the role.

Bale was beefing up after an incredible slim down for Machinist. What I mean is its more about beefing up then getting cut. Muscle weight as opposed to definition for the first one can be hidden

 

[Project862006]

i think cap should have hugh jackman like physique :

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2008/02/hugh-washboard/hugh-jackman-washboard-abs-01.jpg

 

[Red Mask]

i think cap should have hugh jackman like physique :

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2008/02/hugh-washboard/hugh-jackman-washboard-abs-01.jpg

That's good. Now the actor for Cap should go up one more level. The build has to be more cut too because the costume will cover up the definition. But a sculpted physique will still look better overall if he keeps the fat down. I'd like stronger shoulders and arms. Also, these days a clear V-taper is the best standard for strong physiques. Hopefully, the costume won't have those chips for chain-mail.

 

[WeaponXProject]

Paul Walker would be a good choice. Marvel should get him. He's tall and he looks like a male model. I don't know how big he can get because he seems to be very slim when he doesn't pack on muscle. But he can just pack on as much mucsle as he can and they can add some patings to the costume.

Come on guys, one movie makes him respectable? Most critics laugh when a movie has him in it. If he was Cap, I would laugh. That picture and background should remind you that this is who he is and should only be in teenager movies where he's a surfer *****e.

Resume:
1. Fast and Furious - His most popular but not a good movie.
2. She's All That- The name tells you the movie will suck.
3. 2 Fast 2 Furious - Well...garbage.
4. Running Scared - His best but still not something I would ever buy on DVD.
5. That mushing movie with snow dogs? ?????? Wow!
6. The boating movie with Jessica Alba...is bad.

What makes him capable of leading a franchise with an already big fan base?

 

[TheVileOne]

Just FYI,

Middleweight = 171-185 pounds.

Listen guys. He's not going to look like Brock freaking Lesnar in the movie. It won't be a bodybuilder. It will hopefully be a good actor that will be in great shape and get big like just almost all the other performers in these movies.

 

[chiefchirpa]

If we're comparing to Christian Bale, then Matthew McConaughey physically more imposing than "Batman" in Reign of Fire. Physically, a toned McConaughey is perfect for Captain America, also being Irish and all that.

Here's him posing with "Tony Stark":
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2632160256/nm0000190
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2665714688/nm0000190

But alas, even if he has some acting talent he squanders all on his poor acting choice or hippie way of life.

 

[Project862006]

i totally agree i think Matthew has acting talent but he has the worst choice in movie roles he was good in reign of fire/we are marshall/two for the money/ but is more rememebered for his dumb chick flick roles so its hard for people to take him serious especially with his horrible new movie surfer dude LOLOL

 

[captaintass]

i totally agree i think Matthew has acting talent but he has the worst choice in movie roles he was good in reign of fire/we are marshall/two for the money/ but is more rememebered for his dumb chick flick roles so its hard for people to take him serious especially with his horrible new movie surfer dude LOLOL

Also, I don't know if it is possible for Matt to lose his Texas twang. Cap should not have any kind of southern accent.

 

[The Squirrel]

Cause people are looking at Cap's physique as his most prominent feature, and thus look long and hard to get it right, while ignoring the feature that you need most in making a character believable in a movie: acting.

Like I have always said, you can make someone look bigger than they are, but if they have no talent, they won't suddenly have it playing Cap. Acting to me is way more important, and I falt out don't care if someone like DiCaprio is cast as Cap (I in fact support him or Damon for the role...though neither will probably do it). They can act and realize the character on screen better than some lame muscle -bound, no talent, dufus.

If they really have to go with someone famous, Damon would be my pick for sure.


But I agree that acting is most important. Cast the guy and then send him to a gym.

 

[The Major]

Also, I don't know if it is possible for Matt to lose his Texas twang. Cap should not have any kind of southern accent.

It wouldn't be to bad if Cap had some sort of Texas twang. It makes him more American.

The Southern audiences would love it, too.

 

[captaintass]

It wouldn't be to bad if Cap had some sort of Texas twang. It makes him more American.

The Southern audiences would love it, too.

Ummmm...yeah. A guy from Brooklyn with a southern twang.

 

[COAL TIGER]

Arc:

Walker can get the look but he has serious negatives to deal with.

I've only seen one good performance from him. Does he always have that ability? Maybe, but maybe not. For Cap they need someone more reliable in the acting department.

Credibility. The public sees him as the male version of Jessica Alba. They have to respect him or they aren't going to respect Cap.

He chooses bad movies most of the time which are lowest common denominator stuff. If the script is really good he might not be interested. In that case he's replaceable.

He doesn't have the charisma his rivals do. Matt Damon could steal scene effortlessly in this role, Walker would find it tougher to get the audiences attention since he's only a mediocre to good actor, not a great one.

But you said you saw him give one good performance. If he did it once, then likely he can do it again.

 

[The Major]

But you said you saw him give one good performance. If he did it once, then likely he can do it again.

I disagree. Being a one off performance means the chances are higher he won't.

That's to risky for Cap.

Walker's definitely replaceable. Plenty of more dependable, higher skilled actors in Hollywood who could do a better job in the role.

 

[COAL TIGER]

Funny how some of you are trying to speak for everybody else by saying people wont take Paul or Matthew seriously and they'll just laugh at them.

 

[The Major]

Funny how some of you are trying to speak for everybody else by saying people wont take Paul or Matthew seriously and they'll just laugh at them.

They wouldn't take Walker seriously. He would have to seriously prove himself for it to work. He can do that in his own ****ty films without Cap getting damaged if he fails.

Matthew would be fine.