First Avenger Why Does Everyone Want a Body-Building Captain America?

[Peyton Westlake]

I disagree. Being a one off performance means the chances are higher he won't.

That's to risky for Cap.

Walker's definitely replaceable. Plenty of more dependable, higher skilled actors in Hollywood who could do a better job in the role.

I kind of agree. I really dont know how good of an actor Walker is because his roles are never too demanding. I just don't like him personally, so he wouldn't be my choice.

 

[Hiruu]

If we're comparing to Christian Bale, then Matthew McConaughey physically more imposing than "Batman" in Reign of Fire. Physically, a toned McConaughey is perfect for Captain America, also being Irish and all that.

Here's him posing with "Tony Stark":
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2632160256/nm0000190
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2665714688/nm0000190

But alas, even if he has some acting talent he squanders all on his poor acting choice or hippie way of life.

He's a physical actor, but I just don't care much for him...but he'd do the job.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'm not feelin' Walker or McConaughey.

 

[TheVileOne]

The only reason Walker is being suggested at all is because he has fair colored hair.

 

[Red Mask]

Physically, a toned McConaughey is perfect for Captain America, also being Irish and all that.

Say what? Steve Rogers' last name comes from the Normans "Rogier". That's French in my book.

 

[Red Mask]

Just FYI,
Middleweight = 171-185 pounds.

Ah. Thanks for the correction. I still think middleweight should be the optimum standard.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Say what? Steve Rogers' last name comes from the Normans "Rogier". That's French in my book.

It should be public knowledge by now that Steve Rogers is Irish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)

Another trivia: Tony Stark is Anglo-Italian, though less obvious than Irish Steve Rogers.

 

[Red Mask]

Irish parents with an Anglo-French name. Now that's ethnic pluralism.

 

[chiefchirpa]

French is just the name's origin. It really has no meaningful reason.

Besides who says that wonderful quote "A doesn't stand for France" (although that's the Ultimate one)?

 

[Iron_Stark]

It should be public knowledge by now that Steve Rogers is Irish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)

Another trivia: Tony Stark is Anglo-Italian, though less obvious than Irish Steve Rogers.

Stark's mom's name is Maria Carbonell, that's Spanish.

 

[chiefchirpa]

616 Stark is thought to be Italian by Kurt Busiek and John Romita JR. Antonio Stark of Ultimate is undeniably Spanish.

Carbonell is also a Sicilian name.

 

[captaintass]

Ah. Thanks for the correction. I still think middleweight should be the optimum standard.

Well, in boxing a middleweight is 160 pounds. That's a little light in the ass for Cap. 6'3" and 230 lbs. sounds about right.

 

[Red Mask]

French is just the name's origin. It really has no meaningful reason.

Besides who says that wonderful quote "A doesn't stand for France" (although that's the Ultimate one)?

It also means that Norman blood had spread into the Anglo-Saxon gene pool of those isles. To say that Steve Rogers is Irish doesn't mean much in modern view. It's like pointing out that Batman is Scottish and Joker is Irish. (Glasgow Grin)

 

[Rage]

Irish?? I thought he was American? And being American is the important part...not where his ancestors came from. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me for them to have Cap not be of Irish decent...hell, he could be of Norwegian decent for all I care. I don't even really care that he's from New York. So long as his character is done right... the little details don't bother me like the city or the state or his ancestory

That being said, I still want to see him represented like he is in the comics. White male, tall, broad, fit, blue eyes and blond hair. The costume can change (because I don't think that it is believable in reality.) And I don't see him as a minority, because at that time America was not as tolerant as it is today and their idea of the ideal american is all those things listed above.

Rage

Rage

 

[Hmarrs]

Repeat post.

 

[Hmarrs]

Long gone huh??

I would say that muscle suits are at their peak right now I know that Routh and Maguire had some padding and airbrushed suits to accentuate their forms aswell...but there is still some padding there... A long way from...

Rage

Man Hellboy looks cool why couldn't they have done that with the Hulk.
Get a huge bodybuilder and add on with a suit and then alter his height via graphics like in Lord of the rings.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Ugh. ENough Hulk-bashing. THe Hulk doesn't have human proportions.

 

[The Shredder]

I'm not feelin' Walker or McConaughey.

I would certainly be a bit more open to McConaughey, than Walker.

The latter suggestion is one I find, quite honestly, simply horrid.

 

[not_a_victim]

I don't think anyone here is advocating HUGE muscles. But Cap has to have a strong, athletic look to him. I don't want somebody built like Randy Savage or Lou Ferrigno in the role, but I don't want someone in Michael Keaton's range, either.
I think, realistically, somone around Christian Bale's Batman physique, give or take 20-30 pounds, would be perfect.

If you added even 20 pounds of muscle to someone like Bale, you would have a totally different body...Do you have any idea what 20 extra pounds of muscle looks like?
Cap is supposed to be the epitome of human physical conditioning, on all levels. Unless I am mistaken, he supposed to be the stronges "normal" human in the Marvel universe, and the whole "super soldier serum" thing just has "steroids" written all over it, so either they get a guy who is a fairly big, muscular guy, or they pad the heck out of the suit...Of course, this would basically mean nothing to those who are not just casual comic book fans.
However...Marvel has already set us up for having a person take the serum and gain incredible abilities, without gaining any mass, such as when Blonsky took his first dose of the serum in TIH.
And to anyone who thinks that bodybuilding makes you slow and inflexible, you need to leave the 1950's behind, and get with us in the 21st century.
Pro wrestlers, footballers, hockey players, baseball players, MMA fighters, and even pro bodybuildiers are mostly large, muscular guys, and maintain better than average, and sometimes extrordinary flexibility. The whole, "I would bulk up, but I want to stay flexible" argument is touted by guys who simply are not atheletes.
Me, I would want someone who was built like Dwayne Johnson when he did "Walking Tall". Don't look at him now though, as he has intentionally lost quite a bit of mass.

 

[Rich Santoro]

Marvel has already set us up for having a person take the serum and gain incredible abilities, without gaining any mass, such as when Blonsky took his first dose of the serum in TIH.

I am not convinced about this... I did not interpret the plot to suggest that the serum given to Blonsky was the precise product given to Rogers in the early Bioforce Enhancement project. The version given to Blonsky seemed to be an altered (revamped) product created after WWII (since the original formula was lost). It may even have been something drastically different, via the experiments that Banner was working on (resulting in his transformation into the Hulk). Blonsky looked like the formula he took, made him super-human, as opposed to peak human... and it was somewhat unstable, causing mutagenesis (as seen in the enlargement of his spine in the bathroom scene).

I could be off here... but I hope that they clarify these details in the coming films.

Nonetheless, I feel that Frank Shamrock is the ideal body-type for Cap:

 

[Chris Wallace]

If you added even 20 pounds of muscle to someone like Bale, you would have a totally different body...Do you have any idea what 20 extra pounds of muscle looks like?
Cap is supposed to be the epitome of human physical conditioning, on all levels. Unless I am mistaken, he supposed to be the stronges "normal" human in the Marvel universe, and the whole "super soldier serum" thing just has "steroids" written all over it, so either they get a guy who is a fairly big, muscular guy, or they pad the heck out of the suit...Of course, this would basically mean nothing to those who are not just casual comic book fans.
However...Marvel has already set us up for having a person take the serum and gain incredible abilities, without gaining any mass, such as when Blonsky took his first dose of the serum in TIH.
And to anyone who thinks that bodybuilding makes you slow and inflexible, you need to leave the 1950's behind, and get with us in the 21st century.
Pro wrestlers, footballers, hockey players, baseball players, MMA fighters, and even pro bodybuildiers are mostly large, muscular guys, and maintain better than average, and sometimes extrordinary flexibility. The whole, "I would bulk up, but I want to stay flexible" argument is touted by guys who simply are not atheletes.
Me, I would want someone who was built like Dwayne Johnson when he did "Walking Tall". Don't look at him now though, as he has intentionally lost quite a bit of mass.

I doubt they'd go the "no mass gained" route, as Blonsky didn't have to run around in a costume.

 

[Rage]

...and it was not the same formula. Cap will have to gain mass...otherwise some skinny 4F D.J. Qualls look-a-like jumping around kickin' Nazi Anoos!! I don't see that happening.

Rage

 

[Chris Wallace]

Ugh. There's an image I can do without. Like those clowns who go to the Con every year weighing a buck o'five & dressed as Cap, Thor, what have you. Or the guys who look like Jay Leggett & come as Batman or Superman.

 

[The Shredder]

I am not convinced about this... I did not interpret the plot to suggest that the serum given to Blonsky was the precise product given to Rogers in the early Bioforce Enhancement project. The version given to Blonsky seemed to be an altered (revamped) product created after WWII (since the original formula was lost). It may even have been something drastically different, via the experiments that Banner was working on (resulting in his transformation into the Hulk). Blonsky looked like the formula he took, made him super-human, as opposed to peak human... and it was somewhat unstable, causing mutagenesis (as seen in the enlargement of his spine in the bathroom scene).

I could be off here...

No. Actually, I think you hit the nail right on the head with this analysis.

I also agree that it's evident that whatever version of the "Super Soldier Serum" used on Blonsky in TIH, was most certainly not the exact serum used with Steve back in WW2. As there are scenes that not-too-subtly allude to this fact. The shot of Blonsky from behind as his spine becomes enlarged while he looks into the mirror, the scene where he says, "Like a monster" when asked how he felt. Clearly the the serum given to him was unstable, thus causing him to mutate to some degree. Which needless to say, came to a head when Blonsky persuades Dr. Sterns with Banner's mutation.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Personally I think this is very Captain America-ish