Why DOES Spidey lose his powers?

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I figured it was the "Keeping something like love inside, will make you sick" line, but I'm still not sure.

What do we think?
 
i think he needs something too fight for,that he only has his powers when actually needed,if u mean what i mean
 
venman said:
i think he needs something too fight for,that he only has his powers when actually needed,if u mean what i mean
thats possible.
 
He lost his powers because of stress -- from life, love etc. Stress makes people ill.
 
I've always seen it as, he wanted to spend his time with MJ instead out saving the city all the time. So subconciously his powers shut down, giving him all the time he had been wanting. Like the scene at the theatre, he didnt want to follow the police, but he felt he had to, so his body says "screw this" and poof, he starts falling. haha buttman, how those lines coming ;) jk jk.
 
Spider-Girl™ said:
I've always seen it as, he wanted to spend his time with MJ instead out saving the city all the time. So subconciously his powers shut down, giving him all the time he had been wanting. Like the scene at the theatre, he didnt want to follow the police, but he felt he had to, so his body says "screw this" and poof, he starts falling. haha buttman, how those lines coming ;) jk jk.
^I agree. I do that all the time. I'll be swinging by central park when all the sudden I see some hot guy and before I know it, I'm falling.
 
Plain and simple- He didn't want to be Spider-Man anymore. "I want a life of my own". For Peter, being Spider-man had meant sacrificing this. Yet his dedication to his duty wouldn't allow him to voluntarily stop. So his subconscious (Ala ASM Annual #1) shut his powers off so that he could quit with no guilt.
 
Yeah, what they said.^

I can understand his reasons. They make sense.
 
fangrl06 said:
^I agree. I do that all the time. I'll be swinging by central park when all the sudden I see some hot guy and before I know it, I'm falling.

Sweetie, if you're falling in love that easily your setting yourself up for heartbreak, oh and you might want to invest in cushioning for your suit.
 
Spider-Girl™ said:
haha buttman, how those lines coming ;) jk jk.
Yet to record, paitence my padawan. :cwink:

Yeah, I visit SHH now and then, but BFF is my home. :oldrazz:
 
They always seem to do this with movies, make the hero weak for some reason and I don't think we always want to see it. They did it with Superman and they also always want to de-mask the hero. They did that in Batman and in both Spidey movies. I really hated that bit on the train after he saves it and that kid gives him his mask back and says "we won't tell anyone"

Yeah right, we damn well would!
 
So you are saying that if someone risked their life to save you from certain death you would turn and rat out his identity to ruin is life? With people like that around I would hate to be a superhero...:whatever:
 
But this isn't a movie-exclusive thing. Even in the Ditko/Lee era, Spidey would lose his powers due to illness (the second Dr. Octopus story) or just plain stress (Amazing Spider-Man Annual # 1).

This wasn't pulled out of nowhere for the movie. It's a well-established nod to Ditko/Lee Spider-Man.
 
webhead731 said:
Yeah, what they said.^

I can understand his reasons. They make sense.
yeah they do, its because he did not want to be spiderman any more, or like someone else said, it might be stress or illness.
 
Cyclops said:
But this isn't a movie-exclusive thing. Even in the Ditko/Lee era, Spidey would lose his powers due to illness (the second Dr. Octopus story) or just plain stress (Amazing Spider-Man Annual # 1).

This wasn't pulled out of nowhere for the movie. It's a well-established nod to Ditko/Lee Spider-Man.
Bingo!

Anyone who reads the comics, let alone a Spiderman comic would easily know this scenrio in Spiderman 2 was taken from the book. Though as far as I know, it was never credited in the movie, it was definately taken from the ASM Anuual 1, when Spidey had to take on the Sinister Six.
 
juzza said:
They always seem to do this with movies, make the hero weak for some reason and I don't think we always want to see it. They did it with Superman and they also always want to de-mask the hero. They did that in Batman and in both Spidey movies. I really hated that bit on the train after he saves it and that kid gives him his mask back and says "we won't tell anyone"

Yeah right, we damn well would!

And what would they tell, exactly?

"Yeah, I saw Spider-Man without his mask. He's some white kid with brown hair."
 
I'd imagine it's due to stress and emotional pain and confusion. I don't think the studio made this up because I remember reading a couple of books where he lost his powers without it being the fault of foes.
 
Yeah it's usually because someone zapps him with a de-power ray or something. I've never heard of his "mood powers"
 
Wesyeed said:
Yeah it's usually because someone zapps him with a de-power ray or something. I've never heard of his "mood powers"

Peter losing his powers due to subconscious suppression is one of the most classic reasons for such humanization of the character. The earlier stories cover a few cases such as that displayed in this film.


Cyclops said:
And what would they tell, exactly?

"Yeah, I saw Spider-Man without his mask. He's some white kid with brown hair."

Don't forget- "And my son's around his age!" :yay:
 
I thought he already was human.

Anyway the thing about his powers are that they're not mentally based or like the Hulk based on unknown radioactive properties that cause physical and metaphysical powers to emerge. In the movie, he's physically mutated and that's all there is. So to me it was like having superman suddenly become super depressed and that's the only reason his powers are gone.

Prior to the film my only knowledge of spidey losing his powers was in the tas show when he was mutating into manspider and his powers were going wacky because of it.

I immediately thought of that when he lost his web powers. Just because he's really sad and lonely doesn't convince me enough. Can this happen again? Are we to believe if he's sad enough he'll lose his physical mutation?

No way. I like to think that he's mutating into man spider.
 
Buttman said:
I figured it was the "Keeping something like love inside, will make you sick" line, but I'm still not sure.

What do we think?
I saw it as a psychological thing. "With great power comes great responsibility". His mind no longer wanted the responsibility, so it rejected the power. Like how a normal person would feel sick at the thought of something he/she didn't want to do.
 
ChibiKiriyama said:
Peter losing his powers due to subconscious suppression is one of the most classic reasons for such humanization of the character. The earlier stories cover a few cases such as that displayed in this film.




Don't forget- "And my son's around his age!" :yay:
defenitley:cwink:.
 
Cyclops said:
And what would they tell, exactly?

"Yeah, I saw Spider-Man without his mask. He's some white kid with brown hair."
In a city with a population of 8,000,000 people!
I had this debate w/a co-worker when the movie came out. She argued that the whole mystique of Spider-man was gone now that he'd been unmasked (Good thing she doesn't read comics!) And I told her, they have no name to put to the face. He's not some public figure. He's just an average joe & without his tights, he's practically invisibile.
 
Hobgoblin Lives said:
Bingo!

Anyone who reads the comics, let alone a Spiderman comic would easily know this scenrio in Spiderman 2 was taken from the book. Though as far as I know, it was never credited in the movie, it was definately taken from the ASM Anuual 1, when Spidey had to take on the Sinister Six.
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Cyclops said:
[re: people on the train seeing Spidey w/o mask] And what would they tell, exactly?

"Yeah, I saw Spider-Man without his mask. He's some white kid with brown hair."

One advantage to being Peter Parker, cute-but-mostly-average-looking young guy, as opposed to Clark Kent, enormous rippling guy who has been an outsider his whole life. Poor Clark can't blend in, so he hides in plain view. Petey, on the other hand, has had a bunch of people see him and they would probably never be able to pick him out of a crowd. They both had good (strong) family backgrounds and similar problems opening up to their favorite girls next door - could be friends :yay:

It dawns that I'm wanting a Superman-Spiderman movie/episode somehow (blast the continuity and different universes!). Here's to Tobey & Tom, or Tobey & Brandon! Kirsten and Kristen/-in are fine; don't want to see Kate for any reason.
 

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