Why SPIDER-MAN 3 is the GREATEST

[Warhammer]

This movie had a poor script, too many storylines, sub-par directing, and lacked substance.

 

[El Payaso]

Butler didn't want Harry to think his father killed himself. Once Spider-Man shows up and Harry refuses to help the Butler tells him that so he can go help. Simple as that.

Lol, nice joke Nobody is that stupid to believe that.


*cough* money doesn't make a movie any better.

Thanks for trying

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

sm3 was the best of the series and maybe one of the best superhero movies....numbers dont lie as well

 

[El Payaso]

numbers dont lie as well

They don't tell truth either. The hype can explain numbers. And the brain can explain money doesn't make a movie any better than it is.

 

[Jerry!]

*cough* Best selling movie of all time in opening weekend - 151.1 million. $376 million + worldwide

Thanks for trying

Doesn't make a damn bit of difference or shows how good or bad the movie is. Batman Begins is the best superhero movie out there and it didn't make a Spiderman like grossing in the box office.

 

[itsthebatman]

This movie was both good and original. However, the parts that were good were not original, and the parts that were original were not good.

Again, money is not a sign of how good a movie is. You gonna tell me Titanic and Dead Man's Chest are the two best movies ever? Or, indeed, any good at all?

 

[Mito88]

spiderman 3 is the best ever, just look at the box office /fanboy

 

[nogster]

sm3 was the best of the series and maybe one of the best superhero movies....numbers dont lie as well

numbers dont lie??? what an ignorant comment......box office numbers dont mean anything in regards to a films quality....spiderman 3 could of been as bad as batman and robin or catwoman and it still wouldve owned the box office in the 1st week....the build up, the marketing.. the fact that it is the sequel to 2 immensly popular films both financially and critically meant it could not fail...at least in the box office...
my opinion is that the film is by far the weakest of the trilogy and a big letdown...but i had to see it.....and thats why it is so huge at the box office....the 1st 2 films sucked the movie public in like a snowball effect...it was always going to be a MASSIVE success.
tsk tsk...

 

[thatoneguy234]

Huh? Restoring balance? Wait a second. I'm not a fanboy, I'm not even that big a Spiderman fan, but even I could tell you that SM2 is leagues ahead of SM3. I mean, why disregard the bad parts of it, why wear rose colored glasses? Because you are sick of seeing all the bad parts discussed? Well this movie was supposed to deliver, and it really didn't. I didn't buy into all the hype and it was still underwhelming. I mean, Sandman just ****ing flies away? Thats it?

"I accidentally killed your uncle"
"...I forgive you."
"Bye"

Ground breaking.


I guess his kid is going to die then, but hey, we don't know because none of his loose ends were tied up, and who knows whats going to happen with SM4.

Actually, their was more dialogue and emotion than that. But nice try.

 

[Jerry!]

Well of course there was, but basically that was what happened. He apologized, Peter forgave him, and he flew away, apparently getting away with all the destruction and murdrer(s) he committed. Not sure how you can argue with it, but thats what happened.

Hey if you bought into it and actually liked it, more power to you. To the rest of us, it was a crock of ****.

 

[bunk]

Of the Spider-man movies ... (Wow, I'm going out on a limb here, and I hope I don't get flamed or butchered in the process ... just my opinion, so stay with me.)

The reason why Spider-man 3 is the best Spider-man film to me isn't because it was entertaining, it wasn't because of Venom, it wasn't for the black suit, or because it was fun, or more like the comic book than any of the other movies. Throw all that out the window.

The reason it's the best is because Spider-man 3 is the first super hero film to have the balls to do something truly innovative.

The entire theme and statement of the movie is FORGIVENESS. How unique is that? Its kind of a put off at first, but if you buy into, it becomes a revolutionary idea for this type of movie. That's NEVER been done before. It gives the film a very unique sensibility.

With superhero movies it just gets you pumped up for the comfort zone, yet potentially cliche good guy v/s bad guy routine. This movie questions all those motives, theories and stories. Villains that essentially were good people at one point, who went bad, and instead of being so black and white, we see our hero have the HEART to forgive people who have wronged him. THAT is awesome. And by god if they had just cut a few things out, and focused more on their strong points thematically, from various actors, and character subplots ... this film could've been EVEN BETTER. Spider-man 3 as of right now is officially underrated. And once you guys come around, I'll be the one standing here saying "I told you so..."

Here's the problem with that:

This idea of "forgiveness" being the central theme of the movie completely sacrifices the idea of RESPONSIBLITY. Who the f*** cares that Pete gets to forgive sandman for killing his uncle. I'd much rather Pete continued on living with the pain that accompanied the knowledge that great power comes with great responsibility. Now thats all been ruined because Pete ISN'T EVEN RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS UNCLE'S DEATH! It would be like finding out that Jor-El sent his only son to Earth to CONQUER it instead of protect it. I'm very disappointed in Raimi for this over all else.

 

[Comicfan]

Actually, their was more dialogue and emotion than that. But nice try.

Actually no, that was the basic idea

 

[thatoneguy234]

Actually no, that was the basic idea

.....

Well of course there was, but basically that was what happened. He apologized, Peter forgave him, and he flew away, apparently getting away with all the destruction and murdrer(s) he committed. Not sure how you can argue with it, but thats what happened.

Hey if you bought into it and actually liked it, more power to you. To the rest of us, it was a crock of ****.

First of all, did Sandman really destroy anything besides the construction area?

And secondly, the only person Sandman killed was Uncle Ben. After he told Peter what happened, what is Peter supposed to do? start beating the s**t out of him?

"I'm not a bad person, I've just got bad luck" - Sandman

 

[chaseter]

^I don't think bad luck has anything to do with killing someone. Oops...I got drunk and accidentally ran over someone...my bad. I was holding a gun in your stomach and it accidentally went off...OOPSIES!

 

[Warhammer]

Actually, their was more dialogue and emotion than that. But nice try.

.....

Umm......yeah.
That was about it. Spare yourself believing that 2 more sentences and a flashback scene was groundbreaking. Had they actually had emphasis on Sandman and gave him Doc Ock treatment, he would've been so much better. The same goes especially for Harry. So much animosity between him and Pete for 2 movies, and it all went to waste.

 

[thatoneguy234]

^I don't think bad luck has anything to do with killing someone. Oops...I got drunk and accidentally ran over someone...my bad. I was holding a gun in your stomach and it accidentally went off...OOPSIES!

Getting drunk and running someone over isn't bad luck.

Umm......yeah.
That was about it. Spare yourself believing that 2 more sentences and a flashback scene was groundbreaking. Had they actually had emphasis on Sandman and gave him Doc Ock treatment, he would've been so much better. The same goes especially for Harry. So much animosity between him and Pete for 2 movies, and it all went to waste.

I don't want to fight over this topic. I felt they did a good job. If you think you could've come up with something better I'd love to hear it.

 

[Jerry!]

How about an actual conclusion to the Sandman character. Because I didn't see one. If thats what you think is a good job, well then I don't know if anyone can say anything to dissuade you.

 

[thatoneguy234]

How about an actual conclusion to the Sandman character. Because I didn't see one. If thats what you think is a good job, well then I don't know if anyone can say anything to dissuade you.

I see where you're coming from, but who's to say they won't bring him back for future films?

 

[Warhammer]

I don't want to fight over this topic. I felt they did a good job. If you think you could've come up with something better I'd love to hear it.

I already did.
Had they emphasized on Sandman and gave him Ock treatment, they could've wrapped up a proper conclusion and gave the ultimate redemption/forgiveness scene more meaning/purpose. Better than some "I was just beating the hell out of you 2 minutes ago. Killing Ben Parker was an accident. I'm sorry. Bye Spidey."

How about an actual conclusion to the Sandman character. Because I didn't see one. If thats what you think is a good job, well then I don't know if anyone can say anything to dissuade you.

Yeah, I know.

 

[LostSon88]

Another thing that makes this movie unique is that unlike other trilogies where they conclude with a very positive, t: kinda vibe--LOTR, X-men, BTTF, Matrix, etc.

This one ends the trilogy with the characters in a weird space...in some ways kind of on a sour note with Harry dead and MJ and Peter's relationship on the rocks.

Considering how this is probably the final Spidey film with this cast, that was a really unusual way for this trilogy to "go out" on...

 

[Jerry!]

Yeah my feeling throughout the whole thing was up until the end, well this is going to be the last movie with Maguire, Dunst, most likely, but the way it ended, its almost like there has to be another one with the same cast, but how to pick up after that kind of ending? Its like a mixed ending. Part of it looks like it is the last Spiderman movie with that cast/storyline, and part of it kinda seems like it isn't. I hope Raimi can do a Director's Cut of this, because if theres one movie that needs it, its this one.

 

[Alexia Dark]

Forgiveness as the theme, you say? It's a great one, but I don't think the message played as clear as it should have. Aunt May's forgiveness speech means nothing if it isn't actually expressed by Peter for himself, unlike the aforementioned "Sorry the gun slipped", "That's ok", "Bye".

This might've meant more if it had actually gone off, except that would've been worse, and in fact the entire concept was pure BS.

The 'forgiveness' theme would've meant so much more if it had involved Harry, Peter actually forgiving himself (not just the insinuation that he might have) and maybe, for an extrta kick, after the symbiote is blown away (into space!), Peter could somehow show how much he hopes that Eddie will some day understand that he didn't mean to do all those hurtful things to him. Really, the message of 'revenge is a poison' should've been more clearly apparent.

Maybe that's the real issue here. There is so much going on and so much that didn't need to be there, that all of the good concepts (forgiveness, friendship, being able to sacrifice yourself for the ones you love) were underplayed, and therefore, gave so much less emotional impact to the entire movie.

 

[venom892]

I felt the ending was very weak.One of the weakest parts.It was rushed and just overall unsatisfying.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

I loved Spiderman 3. I think it's the most fun of the series...and sure it combined a lot of stories....but in a weird way it worked for me. Im glad it wasn't like Spiderman 2 pace...that movie had too many long boring moments that put me to sleep...this one was exciting all the way through. It's how I want my summer movies.....to entertain me. It had humor, action and emotion. What more can u ask for. I seen it 2 times already

 

[thatoneguy234]

I already did.
Had they emphasized on Sandman and gave him Ock treatment, they could've wrapped up a proper conclusion and gave the ultimate redemption/forgiveness scene more meaning/purpose. Better than some "I was just beating the hell out of you 2 minutes ago. Killing Ben Parker was an accident. I'm sorry. Bye Spidey."



Yeah, I know.

Ock treatment? what exactly is the Ock treatment?