The Dark Knight Why TDK won't be next BR or another disappointment

[Mr. Superhero]

Yeah, that's right.

The Penguin looked too scary (for kids of course), while Catwoman was looking too sexy.

DARK+SEXY=NO KIDS

Hence, the '15' certificate...

 

[CConn]

Hence, the '15' certificate...

But in America (where Batman generally pulls in most of his gross) it got a PG-13 rating. PG-13 is Spider-Man, Harry Potter, and, most important, the first Batman movie - which was (obviously) quite popular with kids.

When parents took them to see BR expecting more of the same, and instead got a darker, more freakish film that probably scared more than a few children, the buzz for the movie started getting effected negatively, and it under performed at the box office.

 

[Mr. Superhero]

But in America (where Batman generally pulls in most of his gross) it got a PG-13 rating. PG-13 is Spider-Man, Harry Potter, and, most important, the first Batman movie - which was (obviously) quite popular with kids.

When parents took them to see BR expecting more of the same, and instead got a darker, more freakish film that probably scared more than a few children, the buzz for the movie started getting effected negatively, and it under performed at the box office.

In England, it's a '15'. What else can I say?

 

[CConn]

Yay for England?

 

[El Payaso]

I'd say yay for England. I hope parents and kids will get that if they want some pink goody goody movie, they have Disney. Batman is something else.

Oh, and same for McDonald's, gfy.

 

[kenellard]

Yeah, that's right.

The Penguin looked too scary (for kids of course), while Catwoman was looking too sexy.

DARK+SEXY=NO KIDS

I'll have you know that dark plus sexy quite often equals kids, that's why it's important to always use protection

 

[CConn]

I'd say yay for England. I hope parents and kids will get that if they want some pink goody goody movie, they have Disney. Batman is something else.

And they realized that with BR, so they didn't go see it.

And BR underperformed. Huh.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Did anyone think TDK would be a disappointment to begin with

 

[thedarks0ldier]

Was this thread really necessary?

If nothing else, we got a cool analysis on some cool sequals.

 

[kenellard]

Did anyone think TDK would be a disappointment to begin with

dude, try to make sense when you post

 

[StorminNorman]

dude, try to make sense when you post

umm...he made perfect sense? lol.

 

[El Payaso]

And they realized that with BR, so they didn't go see it.

And BR underperformed. Huh.

Like many other great movies. Masses taste is nothing to rely on.

 

[CConn]

Like many other great movies. Masses taste is nothing to rely on.

Oh, of course. But such was the topic.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

dude, try to make sense when you post

As StorminNorman said, my post made sense. If you didn't understand it, that's your problem.

 

[Cinemaman]

Well, BB got it's audience, so I don't think situation with BR will happen with TDK.

 

[Eros]

Well, BB got it's audience, so I don't think situation with BR will happen with TDK.

Thats the problem with Batman as a charataer these days, his only real fans in the general audience are teenagers and young adults. Spider-man already owns the mass market kids,teens,adults, grandparents etc. Superman fans in the general audeince include adults in their late 20s,30s, and middle-age men and old people. The X-men much like spider-man own generally every age group save for older people. lets face it folks, Batman begins attracted teenagers,college students, and some older adults[basically everyone born in the gritty and gritty 80s]. for the new franchise to be really succesfully, they need to draw in kids and preteens.

 

[CConn]

Does the franchise need to be "really successful"? Not that I don't want a Batman movie to appeal to everything, not that I don't want a Batman movie to do fantastically at the box office, but with BB we got a really good movie, which made a very respectable profit...isn't it a bit selfish to, after all of that, say "I want even more money"?

 

[Eros]

Does the franchise need to be "really successful"? Not that I don't want a Batman movie to appeal to everything, not that I don't want a Batman movie to do fantastically at the box office, but with BB we got a really good movie, which made a very respectable profit...isn't it a bit selfish to, after all of that, say "I want even more money"?

I dun care about the big bucks, but im sure Warner brothers is getting alittle iffy after superman returns didn't do as well as they hoped. every generation has its golden age, intil studio execs get greedy.

 

[kingdomhearts]

Show me the money.LOL!

I think overall Warner could use some money boost.I read on the news that their movie profits this year was disappointing. It was down 19% or 23% and that's not good. They're only doing well on the DVD sales and their Cable business.

 

[7Hells]

Well, firing actors that get paid 80 milllion a picture is a good start.
They should take a few hints from Paramount.
Or did I get the studios mixed up?

 

[CConn]

I dun care about the big bucks, but im sure Warner brothers is getting alittle iffy after superman returns didn't do as well as they hoped. every generation has its golden age, intil studio execs get greedy.

There's very little evidence to lead one to believe WB feels that way.

 

[Cinemaman]

Thats the problem with Batman as a charataer these days, his only real fans in the general audience are teenagers and young adults. Spider-man already owns the mass market kids,teens,adults, grandparents etc. Superman fans in the general audeince include adults in their late 20s,30s, and middle-age men and old people. The X-men much like spider-man own generally every age group save for older people. lets face it folks, Batman begins attracted teenagers,college students, and some older adults[basically everyone born in the gritty and gritty 80s]. for the new franchise to be really succesfully, they need to draw in kids and preteens.

What?

Batman should always stay as dark and serious superhero, not like Superman or Spidey, though I like them also.

Batman doesn't need kids, teenagers make their job.

Look at Terminator 2, it had R-rating, but still, it was successful movie. The same goes to X2 and Aliens.

BB had it's audience - fans and teenagers. And that's enough for sequel to get even more money than BB.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

What?

Batman should always stay as dark and serious superhero, not like Superman or Spidey, though I like them also.

That's really selfish. Batman's main audience for the past 60-some years. I love Batman and I love it when he's deep, dark, twisted character; but on film, I'll live with it being more light on maturity for kids to go see. If you want it to me mature, just read the books.

Batman doesn't need kids, teenagers make their job.

WB wants kids to go. When you appeal to kids, you get both kids and adults to see it.

BB had it's audience - fans and teenagers. And that's enough for sequel to get even more money than BB.

Fans don't have to be the teenage or middle-aged geeks, they can be kids too

 

[Cinemaman]

That's really selfish. Batman's main audience for the past 60-some years. I love Batman and I love it when he's deep, dark, twisted character; but on film, I'll live with it being more light on maturity for kids to go see. If you want it to me mature, just read the books.



WB wants kids to go. When you appeal to kids, you get both kids and adults to see it.



Fans don't have to be the teenage or middle-aged geeks, they can be kids too

Don't get me wrong. I don't want Batman to be too dark to not have kids as audience. But I also don't want that Batman from Schumacher's movies.

Yep.

Yep.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

There's a difference between 'appropriate for kids' and 'geared towards kids'.