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Why the Elektra hate?

-Ridiculous villains who turn into green smoke when dying for some reason. There's a point when a guy who can turn a couple of snake tattoos on his back into a thousand flying serpents with glowing heads makes me take a step back and ask "WTF am I watching!?"

Correct.

Forget the movie universe VS Marvel Universe stuff. Elektra was simply a bad film. The first half actually worked but the conclusion was asinine and the villains were indeed ridiculous. The green smoke deaths were preposterous. The concluding battles lacked excitement and wasn't even serviceable as mindless action. Throwing a sai hundreds of yards through shrubbery to kill Typhoid Mary? Really? Just running up and snapping the tattooed guy's neck? Really? Yawn.

The dialogue and the writing are as bad as it gets.

The entire 60 seconds screen time of that Stone character, was he really necessary? Why would he destroy the base of that tree and then turn his back to let it clobber him? Groan. Also, why did Elektra leave behind what amounted to her only friend in the world to die as she used the tunnel to flee? Why not take McCabe with her? They would've tore apart the house and never caught them if they hadn't read his mind. Sloppy writing to say the least. I could go on but why bother?

What kept this movie from being good was the script and execution. I agree with the post I quoted and think that the supernatural stuff should've been curtailed quite a bit. I would've preferred more grit, sword play and fighting to flying sheets and green fog deaths. Instead of a handful of underused villains, they should've just gone with three. Her main antagonist, Tattoo & Typhoid Mary and have each climatic battle with them mean something.
 
The first 5 minutes are really good, the rest of the film should have been just like that.

I wish I could at least agree with that much but no. It felt like a total cliche. "Grr! Nobody could get past all that heavily armed securi--gah!" *dies* The problem with with female action stars is that when it comes to fighting and sneaking around ninja style, they feel like they have to be flawless because they don't want to portray a damsel in distress. So any weakness or vulnerability they have is shown in their personal and emotional lives. But this is not only unrealisatic, it's not entertaining. If Elektra slipped and fell off a beam, attracted the attention of some guards, fought them off by the skin of her teeth, got hit in the arm by a stray bullet, managed to kill them, quickly tended the wound and managed to somehow kill her target in sPite of all that, it'd be just as impressive and fun to watch. Instead we got someone who was too good at what she did in a bad movie.
 
Anyone who was expecting Elektra to be anything more than "Cute chick fights ninjas" set their expectations way too high.
 
as far as the villains go...I would of dropped all the villains except Typhoid and a few anonymous ninjas...she was the only interesting one...Kirigi, Stone, Tattoo, and the other one could of all easily been anonymous ninjas working under Typhoid...

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...oh yeah...kill the brat some point during the movie...

the film was ok...but the girl really ruined it for me....
 
Anyone who was expecting Elektra to be anything more than "Cute chick fights ninjas" set their expectations way too high.

I don't think I really expected much more than that. The trailer had me wondering what the hell was up with all the mystical elements-which never really got answered.
Oh, and Hellion-they did kill the brat at some point during the movie.
 
Well the only answers that I can think of is A) That's just how it was in the comics and B) They're ninjas. They're all about that mystic stuff.
 
Avi Arad and Kevin Feige said in an Empire interview that Elektra was their biggest mistake so far (this was in 2006 when Arad was CEO and Feige was his deputy).

The people who actully made the movie think its a disaster.

I always laugh when I hear stuff like that from the filmmakers when their movies bomb, you know why? Because if that same exact movie had made a BILLION dollars, they wouldn't have said that. Just like when Forrest Whittaker had expressed regret a few years ago about starring in Battlefield Earth. He wouldn't have regretted it if it had broke records like Star Wars and TDK. Just remember people, its all about Money with Hollywood. If Avi and Feige thought the could make Trillions buy selling human waste, they would.
 
I thought Elektra was a pretty decent movie. The only thing that could've been improved was that kid. The movie would've been way better if not for that.

It was a helluva lot better than DD was, that's for sure.
 
It was a helluva lot better than DD was, that's for sure.

I wouldn't go that far, Mr. Green (look at the DD director's cut especially). That being said, Elektra was pretty decent I thought. It was better than I expected it to be.
 
How much better could the director's cut possibly have been? It was scenes like when Bullseye broke the window in the church and jagged glass stacked up on his hands -- the cgi was not only obvious, but it was just a ******ed thing to write into the script.
 
I hate this film. It's the definition of "let's piss all over the source material to try and please the masses". Absolute tripe.
 
I thought Elektra was a pretty decent movie. The only thing that could've been improved was that kid. The movie would've been way better if not for that.

It was a helluva lot better than DD was, that's for sure.
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How much better could the director's cut possibly have been? It was scenes like when Bullseye broke the window in the church and jagged glass stacked up on his hands -- the cgi was not only obvious, but it was just a ******ed thing to write into the script.

Well there's an actual plot this time and it's pretty good since the focus is more on Matt Murdock and less on Daredevil and I honestly think the jagged glass is something that Bullseye would do. He's killed people with less.
 
I don't hate the movie, but I also don't like it. I just don't care.
My expectations for the movie were 0, since I only knew the character from the DD movie. I wasn't expecting nothing more.
 
Well there's an actual plot this time and it's pretty good since the focus is more on Matt Murdock and less on Daredevil and I honestly think the jagged glass is something that Bullseye would do. He's killed people with less.

The CGI is still pretty bad in that scene though. While the Director's Cut is way better then the theatrical cut in terms of story, it still has all the bad elements and scenes. The fact that the plot is coherent makes it better then Elektra though by default.
 
I don't know, at least Elektra had villains that weren't overtly gay. "Bullseye! I never miss!" lol Even if the villains in Elektra weren't that much like those in the comics, they were at least cool kung-fu fightin' villains.

Bullseye was straight up ******ed. And the Kingpin was black, which was weird if you were used to the comics but it wasn't exactly an oscar winning performance. And for this alone, Elektra is better:

(I'm paraphrasing from memory here...)

Kingpin: How do you make a man without fear afraid?
Bullseye: You got to put the fear in him!
Kingpin: Yes, heh heh. I like the sound of that, heh heh heh.

Yeah, some of you know what I'm talking about...
 

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