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I also don't see for certain he becomes Batman. That was not the point.
One of the great ironies about Batman is that despite being the sole human representative of The Justice League (insofar as not having superhuman abilities), he is arguably the least human among them. He's cold, calculated, obsessive, paranoid, detached, and above all hyper-intelligent. That's where the Superman/Batman dynamic is so interesting. The demigod is the more human of the two.
So clearly the ending wasn't all that definitive if so many interpretations have come of it.
No it wasn't. The point was to pass the symbol on. The symbol is not about everyone wearing a cape and cowl and fighting bad guys for a thousand years. If you think that's the point of the end, and the point of the symbol then you simply aren't able to look past the surface of the true meaning.^ Actually, I CAN say with certainty that Blake becomes Batman because that was the entire point of TDKR's ending.
I've already stated why I believe that it is entirely within the realm of possibility for Warner Bros. to continue to utilize the TDKT universe with or without Nolan's involvement, but in the end, the company will do what they think is in their best interest.
Lol at people that think rebooting the batman series is a good idea. TDKR came out in theaters just last year. Rebooting it for a justice league movie that can happen in 2-3 years means rebooting batman in the next 2-3 years. What kind of logic is that? I asked 5 of my cousins and their friends who are huge batman fans if they like the idea of rebooting batman for a justice league film and they all said no.
You have to take in for consideration the reaction of the mass public if they rebooted batman so damn soon. Bad business.
Sure batman has many more stories to tell, so why not tell them in the same universe? Even if it's with a different actor than Bale. But rebooting it completely and expecting fans just to disregard Heath Ledger's Joker and Tom Hardy's Bane is just crazy talk because then if batman was rebooted you have to worry about making a good joker that can live up to half of the legacy of Heath Ledger's joker.
And why do people think a Justice League can be successful if it comes out in 2015? They have batman, they'll have superman, but what else? Is a Flash movie even confirmed for 2014? Are they going to do anything else with Reynolds or completely reboot GL? What about other iconic heroes such as Wonder Woman and Aqua Man? They don't have enough time from here till summer 2015 to make movies for them.
I see a Justice League film at the EARLIEST, summer 2016.
No it wasn't. The point was to pass the symbol on. The symbol is not about everyone wearing a cape and cowl and fighting bad guys for a thousand years. If you think that's the point of the end, and the point of the symbol then you simply aren't able to look past the surface of the true meaning.
When Bruce said "Anybody could be batman" he's not on the nose about it, he's talking about what Batman stands for, anybody could stand up and fight for their city. Not everybody will but that's why Bruce decided to go to extreme measures so he can inspire people to fight for Gotham. It all traces back to the scene on the plane in Begins. Nolan even said in this version it was always supposed to be temporary, this Batman thing, he'll let go when he sees an opening for the people to be inspired by. Blake and the death of Batman by a nuclear blast is what tells Bruce it's time.
Blake can simply be anybody. Bruce doesn't know for sure that Blake will take the cowl, how could he? Things are left there for him in case. He knows Blake will carry the symbol and defend the city, but how? That's up to Blake. He could be a vigilante like Nightwing or Batman for a long time or only for a bit. They show the cave because there's tech that will be used, detective stuff for Blake to use if he doesn't want to use it as a cop (under the radar like Bruce).
Bruce couldn't predict that Blake was going to throw his badge in the river and walk away from his career. The cave is given to Robin as a gift "here, you do what you want with it, it's yours. You can use this tech with your police force to help catch the bad guys. Or use it secretely if you want to be a vigilante like me". That's the message.
Blake has a choice. That's why it's open to interpretation man.
Robin, Batman or none.
So clearly the ending wasn't all that definitive if so many interpretations have come of it.
Yes it does.Blake taking on any identity other than Batman doesn't constitute the 'symbol of Batman' enduring.
Blake should just be his own version of Robin, if JL is connected to TDK-T. He can have a cameo or just be referenced, I don't care. But he needs to be waaaay on the side of everything, in the backround.If Jl is a continuation of TDKT, It' about finding a way to get Bruce in and Blake out,
So why does it matter which one Blake becomes?
that being said, I think Nightwing should be Graysons thing.
Blake should just be his own version of Robin, if JL is connected to TDK-T. He can have a cameo or just be referenced, I don't care. But he needs to be waaaay on the side of everything, in the backround.
He would serve best as his own version of Robin/Nightwing but without being called "Robin" as his superhero name by the public because it's his real name (maybe called that by Gordon would be enough), and not "Nightwing" because it's too random and it should belong to Grayson. The first time we see Nightwing on film in the future, it should be through the sole character that has that name.
Think Selina Kyle in the trilogy who was never definitively called "Catwoman". Same thing here.
So clearly the ending wasn't all that definitive if so many interpretations have come of it.
I can't honestly believe that people are so desperate and unable to accept TDKT's end....that they would sacrifice Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent FINALLY meeting on the bigscreen.
Unbelievable. No wonder Nolanites have a bad rep.
Because Nolan,in his Infinite Wisdom thought it was better to give us a Batman who fought crime for 1.5 years,came back with a bum leg and gave the mantle over to another guy while he went off to sip champagne in France....instead of leaving the series open ended,so other DC characters might have a chance to use it's success to lead us to a World's Finest/Justice League movie.