The Dark Knight Will TDK Show Off Batman's Detective Skills?

[GoogleMe94]

i want him to be actually sovling puzzles and figuring things out. i always llike tosight B89 when he "cracks" the jokers formula, but that is more of batman's chemistry side. for detective work, i'd say something like figureing out where the joker is gonna be after joker gives him clues, and all that. in Returns, bruce thinks the penguin is actually a good guy at first, but the thengets suspicious and looks him up on the computer and he finds out he has attempted to kill children and stuff, so then he becomes more aware that there ios more the penguin then there seems. that is what i call batman the detecive. hopefully bale would do something like that, background searches and all that.

 

[Penismightier]

It's not like he's going to have police to help him out, besides Gordon. So he's pretty much going to have to do all sorts of detective work.

 

[TheBatman072]

i want him to be actually sovling puzzles and figuring things out. i always llike tosight B89 when he "cracks" the jokers formula, but that is more of batman's chemistry side.

Yes, we know you do.

for detective work, i'd say something like figureing out where the joker is gonna be after joker gives him clues, and all that. in Returns, bruce thinks the penguin is actually a good guy at first, but the thengets suspicious and looks him up on the computer and he finds out he has attempted to kill children and stuff, so then he becomes more aware that there ios more the penguin then there seems. that is what i call batman the detecive. hopefully bale would do something like that, background searches and all that.

Bale did that in Begins. In his study, looking at pictures of people like Gordon. Writing stuff down. The scene where Bale finds the Bat in the house.

He was also investigating Rachel AND Judge Faden. ALSO, he spent some time on the streets, as a begger. Just to get to know his city a little better.

 

[Penismightier]

^ So a movie about the world's greatest detective had like 2 scenes of him investigating something. And there weren't much at that.

 

[TheBatman072]

^ So a movie about the world's greatest detective had like 2 scenes of him investigating something. And there weren't much at that.

That's funny. Becuase I could have SWORE that, in Batman's BEGINNING year, he wasn't the world's greatest anything.


You see, stuff like that, to be the World's Greatest at something, takes TIME.

 

[Penismightier]

Yeah, time and practice. And he didn't do much detective work.

 

[Hole Shot]

Again, the entire second act of Begins is an investigation. Except he's not Captain Crime Lab yet, so he has to do it the old fashioned way by staking out and interrogating.

 

[TheBatman072]

Yeah, time and practice. And he didn't do much detective work.

Look at Year One, of which Begins was heavily based on.


Batman did next to NO detective work. All he DID do, was stake out Falcone to get some info on what he was planning on doing next.


Oh, and I forgot about one other scene with Batman investigating, demonstrating DECTECTIVE SKILLS. The Flass Interrogation. That's what cops do. Albeit, Batman's was a little more severe, bu he STILL was a lot more of a detective than he was in the movies following.

 

[Hole Shot]

i want him to be actually sovling puzzles and figuring things out. i always llike tosight B89 when he "cracks" the jokers formula

What was so special about that? All he did was hand Vicky Vale an envelope and problem solved!

 

[TheBatman072]

Again, the entire second act of Begins is an investigation. Except he's not Captain Crime Lab yet, so he has to do it the old fashioned way by staking out and interrogating.

Bingo!


Oh! And another one! After being sprayed by Crane's Fear Gas, after a THREE DAY COMA, he broke down what he was sprayed with.

"I felt these effects before."

And:

"Some kind of hallucinogen, but weaponized and in aerosol form."

 

[sasquatchs]

Even though there was more than people give credit, because it wasn't focused on, there wasn't time for much. The only thing he didn't know about Ra's scheme ahead of time was the microwave emitter, although in the leaked script he found that too rather than Fox telling him.

 

[sasquatchs]

What was so special about that? All he did was hand Vicky Vale and envelope and problem solved!

Ha. The only detection he did on Joker was to ask Alfred to get his file, everyone knew who he was

 

[TheBatman072]

Ha. The only detection he did on Joker was to ask Alfred to get his file, everyone knew who he was

See? Begins Batman did a HELL of a lot more detective work than any other live-action Batman before him.

 

[Hole Shot]

Oh! And another one! After being sprayed by Crane's Fear Gas, after a THREE DAY COMA, he broke down what he was sprayed with.

"I felt these effects before."

And:

"Some kind of hallucinogen, but weaponized and in aerosol form."

Which leads him to Arkham where he discovers they're dumping it in the cities water. Which he then questions Lucious about and discovers the missing microwave emitter and then after running into Ra's he figured the use of the train system to poison the entire city.

That seems a lot more dectivey to me than one line in the entire movie that went like this:

"Lipstick won't do it alone, but if you mix lipstick with KY, it could be toxic"

 

[the_monk]

See? Begins Batman did a HELL of a lot more detective work than any other live-action Batman before him.

I think you may have forgotten about how Adam West solved the Riddler's puzzles and used the Bat Computer to rehydrate the UN Security Council. Don't you remember the Bat lab coats? CSI must have ripped that movie off.

 

[TheBatman072]

I think you may have forgotten about how Adam West solved the Riddler's puzzles and used the Bat Computer to rehydrate the UN Security Council. Don't you remember the Bat lab coats? CSI must have ripped that movie off.

...


I like you. You're funny.

 

[sasquatchs]

I'm hoping for less reliance on Fox this time, start to move the chemistry side onto Batman. Although there's nothing noticeable in the pics. We know it's more than a wink wink arrangement between them this time, Bruce asks him to make the new suit.

What's he going to do with that 8 screened computer? The waves on the screens look vaguely sciency Chemical spectrum analysis/audio recording kind of stuff, probably just pretty pictures

 

[Hole Shot]

What's he going to do with that 8 screened computer?

Play Counter Strike, World of Warcraft, watch the progress of his torrent downloads, manage his fantasy football league, update his myspace, argue on an Internet message board, IM with a cop pretending to be a 17-year-old girl and watch porn all at the same time.

 

[sasquatchs]

You're disappearing inside this World of Warcraft monster of yours

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Play Counter Strike, World of Warcraft, watch the progress of his torrent downloads, manage his fantasy football league, update his myspace, argue on an Internet message board, IM with a cop pretending to be a 17-year-old girl and watch porn all at the same time.

LOLt:

 

[BubbaGump]

Not enough detective work in Begins?

He only did "what is neccessary, my friend."

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

Not enough detective work in Begins?

He only did "what is neccessary, my friend."

You sure? B/c I don't think he finally learned to do what is necessary in the end.

 

[Nepenthes]

I hope he's nothing like that video

 

[CFE]

Oh most definately.

they hinted at it to a degree with the scene in "BB" of Batman investigating the apt. in the Narrows with the rabbits...

More of the same for sure.

Like have it be a situation where yes, all these new menaces are coming to Gotham and whatnot...but unlike the previous franchise where Batman just goes out in public to take on the villain, have him realize "I can do far more behind the scenes."

It was summed up perfectly in the TAS episode "Shadow of the Bat pt 1"

Batman: There's more to this going on than a simple frame up...and I'm not going to find out anything by appearing in rallys.

basically Batman needs to be a behind the scenes character, only coming out in public when there are no other options. Plus as a protector of the innocent, Batman certainly wouldn't bring a fight to an area where people could potentially be hurt (like say...a rain forest themed auction in "B&R")

yeah, he needs to stay in the shadows putting that 'world's greatest detective' title to the test.

CFE

 

[turtlefocker]

After reading the first post I was gonna come in here with a smack down about how Batman WAS a detective in Begins but it appears that that has already been done so ill just quote these excellent posts written by intelligent posters.

The entire second act of Begins is an investigation. Except he's not Captain Crime Lab yet, so he has to do it the old fashioned way by staking out and interrogating.

Bale did that(detective work) in Begins. In his study, looking at pictures of people like Gordon. Writing stuff down. The scene where Bale finds the Bat in the house.

He was also investigating Rachel AND Judge Faden. ALSO, he spent some time on the streets, as a bagger. Just to get to know his city a little better.

And the Flass Interrogation. That's what cops do. Albeit, Batman's was a little more severe, bu he STILL was a lot more of a detective than he was in the movies following.

Oh! And another one! After being sprayed by Crane's Fear Gas, after a THREE DAY COMA, he broke down what he was sprayed with.

"I felt these effects before."

And:

"Some kind of hallucinogen, but weaponized and in aerosol form."

And thats, that


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Also both Jonathan Nolan and Christian Bale have hinted that the detective aspect is being played up much more n TDK so I think it is safe to say that we need not be concerned that there will be no detective work.