Wisconson Cop goes on rampage, kills 6

[CristoTheSecond]

Oh please, the guy wasnt even on duty. Hes obviously a nutcase and his immature hormones got the best of him.

So, he's obviously a model of civility and peace when he's on-duty and would NEVER abuse his authority on the job...

 

[Jerry!]

Being a cop is a life style. Its not like some job at a factory or at McDonalds. You can't just leave work at work. Its the kind of person you are and want to be. If you can't be like that, then you shouldn't be a cop. If there is any doubt, then it shouldn't be your job.

 

[BRUTAL]

Being a cop is a life style. Its not like some job at a factory or at McDonalds. You can't just leave work at work. Its the kind of person you are and want to be. If you can't be like that, then you shouldn't be a cop. If there is any doubt, then it shouldn't be your job.

Are you a cop? This is one of the most asinine statements I've read while perusing this thread. Being a cop demands that you leave work at work. They f**king ask you of your capacity to do so at least 4 or 5 different times during the application process. Please don't offer any more insight into something you clearly no nothing about, thanks.

 

[hammy]

These guys are human beings just like me and you. If a story made it to the media about an off-duty cop getting into a bar fight, you guys would be ALL OVER that story and blasting him...when in fact the real story was probably him defending himself. But you wouldnt know that because 1. you hate law enforcement because you've had a bad experience or they took your pot away, or 2. you'll believe anything people tell you.

Are you seriously comparing a bar fight to a killing rampage?!! Um, let me speak for myself, since that is the only person I can or should speak for; no, a man (cop or not) getting in to a bar fight is not a story I would jump all over. Particularly if he was defending himself. Pardon me for not equating a bar fight with killing six people, some of whom were children.

And I'm also getting rather sick of your protestations suggesting that I (or those who disagree with you) are all anti-law enforcement or have been mistreated by cops or had our drugs taken away. (You really do sicken me.) For all you know, I AM an officer. Have you ever thought to ask?
No, you're too busy impugning my character because I find fault with a few bad cops. That must make me some sort of crazy, anti establishment druggie or media biased simpleton who can't think for herself .. according your own words.

And you're right, I most likely would not have posted the link if it was a dentist, plumber or accountant who did the killing. I posted it for the reason I originally stated; in light of recent discussions of misconduct I thought it was interesting.

Now, has it been established yet if it was his police issued weapon that was used for the murders?

 

[Mike_D202]

So, he's obviously a model of civility and peace when he's on-duty and would NEVER abuse his authority on the job...

No, the fact that this thread started out as "police misconduct" when the guy wasnt even working nor making an arrest was a product of the statement I made when I said "He wasnt even on duty." Come back when you have some grounds for a debate other than the usual "police abuse authority all the time" opinion.

 

[knowsbleed]

Are you a cop? This is one of the most asinine statements I've read while perusing this thread. Being a cop demands that you leave work at work. They f**king ask you of your capacity to do so at least 4 or 5 different times during the application process. Please don't offer any more insight into something you clearly no nothing about, thanks.

I'm thinking Patent Pending meant "work" as moreso the cop's obligation to uphold the law instead of his actual workload. Of course, whatever that cop was working on while on duty cannot and should not be taken home to add stress to his/her home situation...but that cop is still a cop regardless of whether they are on duty or not. They can't just turn their back on being a cop just because they aren't wearing the uniform that day and ignore something that would pertain to them while they were on duty. Is that not correct?

And how realistic is it for you to tell someone to not comment in this thread if they are not a cop? Do we even have any cops in the community?

 

[CristoTheSecond]

No, the fact that this thread started out as "police misconduct" when the guy wasnt even working nor making an arrest was a product of the statement I made when I said "He wasnt even on duty." Come back when you have some grounds for a debate other than the usual "police abuse authority all the time" opinion.

Power corrupts.

 

[hammy]

So a priest molesting children when he is "off duty," is less offensive than if he was .. on duty?

 

[Mike_D202]

Are you seriously comparing a bar fight to a killing rampage?!!

No, I'm comparing the idiocity of the subject matter that this was "police misconduct" (quoted from you) when this guy wasnt on duty nor making an arrest. You clarely jumped the shark as soon as you realized he was a cop, and I'm sure that scenario would have been no differnt than any other rant you go on about Law Enforcement.

And I'm also getting rather sick of your protestations suggesting that I (or those who disagree with you) are all anti-law enforcement or have been mistreated by cops or had our drugs taken away. (You really do sicken me.) For all you know, I AM an officer. Have you ever thought to ask?
No, you're too busy impugning my character because I find fault with a few bad cops. That must make me some sort of crazy, anti establishment druggie or media biased simpleton who can't think for herself .. according your own words.

No self-respecting proclaimed police officer would be ranting and raving in every thread about supposed "police misconduct" and blasting law enforcement, and if they do, then you need a new job my friend because you obviously hate yours.

And you're right, I most likely would not have posted the link if it was a dentist, plumber or accountant who did the killing. I posted it for the reason I originally stated; in light of recent discussions of misconduct I thought it was interesting.

Yea, we know.

Now, has it been established yet if it was his police issued weapon that was used for the murders?

Does it matter? Obviously he would have used something other than a gun. You dont have to be a police officer to go on a rampage, not sure if you realize that yet.

 

[hammy]

You hate being pwned by a 5'3" 110 pound woman, don't you.

 

[knowsbleed]

No self-respecting proclaimed police officer would be ranting and raving in every thread about supposed "police misconduct" and blasting law enforcement, and if they do, then you need a new job my friend because you obviously hate yours.

Maybe that officer is sick and tired of cops who DO misuse their authority (not specifically in this case) and are just trying to find a place to vent. Doesn't mean they hate their job...it just means they hate people who make the job ****ty. Same as ANY other job.

 

[mrsparkle]

Goddamn ****ing American government make guns Illegal and all these murders will stop. Even for cops, unless its a terrorist attack. America should take a leaf out of englands book

We just have alot of stabbings.

 

[BRUTAL]

I'm thinking Patent Pending meant "work" as moreso the cop's obligation to uphold the law instead of his actual workload. Of course, whatever that cop was working on while on duty cannot and should not be taken home to add stress to his/her home situation...but that cop is still a cop regardless of whether they are on duty or not. They can't just turn their back on being a cop just because they aren't wearing the uniform that day and ignore something that would pertain to them while they were on duty. Is that not correct?

This isn't about his "duties" while off-duty this is about letting the condidtions of his job affect his personal life. I never said anything about ignoring.

And how realistic is it for you to tell someone to not comment in this thread if they are not a cop? Do we even have any cops in the community?

Not yet.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

You seem to have difficulty with this fact: Cops are held to a higher standard than insurance salesman. They have to be. Its the nature of their job. They have a responsibility to the public to protect and serve. That doesn't go away just because he isn't in uniform or not on a shift.

Everyone in society should have a responsibility to not shoot six people, cop or not. He wasn't there as an officer of the law, he wasn't there abusing his power, he was there as a scumbag, coward, killer. I don't care what his job was, it's immaterial, he failed as a human being.

 

[Mike_D202]

You hate being pwned by a 5'3" 110 pound woman, don't you.

Oh please, I came here to discuss and throw my opinions just like you, your the one that seems to wanna win some kind of "argument" here. You dont like the fact that I look at both point of views and I dont like the fact that you only look at whats being put in front of you.

(You really do sicken me.)

Trust me, I wont be losing any sleep tonight.

 

[bell110]

For all you know, I AM an officer. Have you ever thought to ask?

Ok, are you a Law Enforcement Officer?

 

[BRUTAL]

At 5'3" and 110 lbs. I doubt it.

 

[Fred_Fury]

That guy trained with his weapon every day and then he goes out and can only kill 6 people? crazy first-person-shooter fanatics have killed more people than he did.

what a loser.

 

[hammy]

You dont like the fact that I look at both point of views and I dont like the fact that you only look at whats being put in front of you.

That's complete bull****. But what else is to be expected from you. Why don't you ever counter any of my actual points? Because you can't. You just throw around libelous statements about how I call all law enforcement bad, am on drugs or accept whatever the media spoon feeds me. That's what sickens me about you. You lie. And while you're busy spreading a bunch of bs you're also claiming how you 'see both sides,' even though what you are really doing is making up your mind rather than waiting for the facts of the case to come out, like me.

And for your information (not that it's any of your damn business) I do NOT hate all cops or think they're all corrupt. A cop saved my ass earlier this year and I sent a commendation to the police chief for his actions, for which I am very grateful. It's the bad cops that I have a problem with. Everybody should have a problem with bad cops, especially good cops.

 

[Fred_Fury]

I hope his girlfriend is proud. Shes the one that caused this whole mess.

 

[Jerry!]

Everyone in society should have a responsibility to not shoot six people, cop or not. He wasn't there as an officer of the law, he wasn't there abusing his power, he was there as a scumbag, coward, killer. I don't care what his job was, it's immaterial, he failed as a human being.

Of course. That wasn't my point though. He was trying to make the argument that we are more outraged of this tragedy because he is cop, but we wouldn't be as much if he were an insurance salesman. He doesn't understand why because of the guy's job that its more shocking.

 

[Mike_D202]

That's complete bull****. But what else is to be expected from you. Why don't you ever counter any of my actual points? Because you can't. You just throw around libelous statements about how I call all law enforcement bad, am on drugs or accept whatever the media spoon feeds me. That's what sickens me about you. You lie. And while you're busy spreading a bunch of bs you're also claiming how you 'see both sides,' even though what you are really doing is making up your mind rather than waiting for the facts of the case to come out, like me.

And for your information (not that it's any of your damn business) I do NOT hate all cops or think they're all corrupt. A cop saved my ass earlier this year and I sent a commendation to the police chief for his actions, for which I am very grateful. It's the bad cops that I have a problem with. Everybody should have a problem with bad cops, especially good cops.

What exactly have I lied about?! See, you pick and chose what you want to hear and run with it. I'm not the one that writes these news articles. Your just upset that I disagree with you and then you resort to flaming. What facts have you waited for in the other threads? Hell, you were sticking up for the kid that got tased at the John Kerry lecture!

The fact is, you claim that you like law enforcement but all I've seen from you is flaming where its not needed. Apparently you gave a cop a commendation for saving your life but yet all I've seen from you are judgement calls from what you read/watch from the media about corrupt cops.

I think you may need to take a break from this thread before you pop a blood vessel.

 

[DA Dent]

Goddamn ****ing American government make guns Illegal and all these murders will stop. Even for cops, unless its a terrorist attack. America should take a leaf out of englands book

We just have alot of stabbings.

A gun also stopped this nutcase, as they have stopped criminals many times before in desperate situations.

It’s this guy’s fault alone. If he was in a homicidal state of mind, he was going kill them, gun or no gun. “If there’s a will, there’s a way.”

 

[DA Dent]

I’m puzzled why my post is in a different font.

 

[tzarinna]

We all are.