The Amazing Spider-Man 2 With Great Sequel Comes Great Lounging - Part 7

[Picard Sisko]

A lot of them are like that. They skate through as positive reviews, but when you read them they are more mixed than positive overall.

I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think the "shortcuts" being referred to are in response to how Max has a short amount of screen time before becoming Electro. And when Harry finds his motivation for becoming the Goblin, he sort of just becomes the Goblin. Not much of a transition between ordinary human and super villain.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

They also gave TWS an 8/10, didn't it?

Yes, yes they did. Wow, Coming Soon is the parent website of SHH and I have major respect for them. This is GREAT news. t:

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think SHH! gave TASM2 and TWS both an 8/10. Comingsoon.net gave TASM2 an 8/10 and TWS an 8.5/10. Still pretty close either way.

 

[LizardMan07]

is coming soon or SHH RT approved?

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I feel that people here are failing to realize that pointing out flaws don't make a review mixed. Captain America: The Winter Soldier and The Amazing Spider-Man are getting their fair share of criticism among the praises, just like it happens with every superhero film out there.

Long story short: pointing out that the reviews are "mixed" when the reviewers are saying that the film it's good but it has its flaws is looking to the glass half empty. The same also happened with The Avengers, The Dark Knight and The Winter Soldier, if people's memories are fading. A positive review is a positive review, period. Feel free to call them mixed if you want, but know that the same can be said about a LOT of the reviews of any superhero film out there, even the ones considered "critic acclaimed".

 

[Picard Sisko]

Heck, I could point out all the flaws in TDK and give it a serious critique, but that won't lower my 9/10 rating for it. EVERY film has flaws, but the point is whether or not those flaws interfere with your enjoyment of the movie.

 

[kbrooksgohan]

i feel that people here are failing to realize that pointing out flaws don't make a review mixed. Captain america: The winter soldier and the amazing spider-man are getting their fair share of criticism among the praises, just like it happens with every superhero film out there.

Long story short: Pointing out that the reviews are "mixed" when the reviewers are saying that the film it's good but it has its flaws is looking to the glass half empty. The same also happened with the avengers, the dark knight and the winter soldier, if people's memories are fading. A positive review is a positive review, period. Feel free to call them mixed if you want, but know that the same can be said about a lot of the reviews of any superhero film out there, even the ones considered "critic acclaimed".

omg omg omg dis dis dis.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I think SHH! gave TASM2 and TWS both an 8/10. Comingsoon.net gave TASM2 an 8/10 and TWS an 8.5/10. Still pretty close either way.

CS.net just has one review for TASM2 so far, which is the SHH one. We should get their second review closer to the release date. Both the SHH gave 8/10 for TWS and TASM2 though. t:

 

[Picard Sisko]

CS.net gave TWS an 8.5/10

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=116529

 

[Avenging Spidey]

CS.net gave TWS an 8.5/10

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=116529

Yes, they did. t:

They should be reviewing TASM2 closer to the release date though, their first review is always SHH's.

 

[Napoleon]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=97925

And everyone loses their minds.....

 

[The Joker]

Heck, I could point out all the flaws in TDK and give it a serious critique, but that won't lower my 9/10 rating for it. EVERY film has flaws, but the point is whether or not those flaws interfere with your enjoyment of the movie.

But the difference is the reviews for TDK and the like didn't predominantly say the plot was thin, the movie too over crowded, the villains under developed, and one or two of the actors are the saving grace of the movie.

 

[AF3619]

I'm loving the score so far, man that part from "You are that Spider-guy" always gets me, so heroic

 

[Kane52630]

CS.net gave TWS an 8.5/10

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=116529

and yet nobody lost their minds in the Cap forum.

 

[SM71]

It does not matter how 'positive' or 'negative' the reviews sound. They're critics, they're going to be naming absolutely any criticisms they may have. Which for a movie as packed, robust and ambitious as this, is inevitably going to be numerous. Doesn't mean it's such a bad thing, just a lot of content to judge, that's all

If the review is fresh, that means the critic is recommending you see it. That's all that matters. RT doesn't take mixed reviews and just randomly assign them fresh or rotten

 

[Picard Sisko]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=97925

And everyone loses their minds.....

This doesn't really tell us much. We already knew that they wanted to make the villains somewhat sympathetic with the Sinister Six film. Nothing says we won't see them fighting Spider-Man though.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=97925

And everyone loses their minds.....

What does it say?

 

[AF3619]

http://www.**************.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=97925

And everyone loses their minds.....

 

[SM71]

Let's also look at one of the main areas of criticism -- the villains getting shortchanged -- this way.... a big criticism of TASM was a weak villain. And that movie only had ONE villain. TASM2 technically has THREE villains, so having the same level of villain criticism this time around (with seemingly no more gusto or maybe even less critical from what I can tell) than it was for just The Lizard, seems almost like a reassuring thing. At the very least, not a really bad thing for this film.

So as I previously stated, more content = much more to judge/be critical of. Not necessarily a bad thing

Now this is all my complete opinion granted, none of us have seen the movie yet, but I'm just trying to point out that there's absolutely no reason, yet, to be worrying about TASM2 just because even the 'positive' reviews sound slightly negative. It just shouldn't be a worry at this point

 

[Joe_Kickass]

It does not matter how 'positive' or 'negative' the reviews sound. They're critics, they're going to be naming absolutely any criticisms they may have. Which for a movie as packed, robust and ambitious as this, is inevitably going to be numerous. Doesn't mean it's such a bad thing, just a lot of content to judge, that's all

If the review is fresh, that means the critic is recommending you see it. That's all that matters. RT doesn't take mixed reviews and just randomly assign them fresh or rotten

Then explain The Avengers. There's no need to be so defensive towards this film, it looks to have some glarring issues, some people may feel more passively about it, others might not.

 

[AF3619]

and yet nobody lost their minds in the Cap forum.

Don't you get it?!
THIS MOVIE HAS TO BE PERFECT

 

[The Joker]

What does it say?

Here you go, Joe:

Avi Arad And Matt Tolmach Describe Spider-Man Spin-Off SINISTER SIX As A "Redemption" Story

Maybe it's just me, but when it was revealed that Sony were working on a Sinister Six movie, I envisioned it as an event picture like The Avengers where they would all team-up to take out Spider-Man. Perhaps the unique draw would be that the movie would take place from their perspective (making Spidey the "villain" so to speak"), and while that could still happen, it atcually sounds as if producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach have something far more unusual in mind!

"There's no such thing as just a villain," Matt Tolmach told IGN Movies in a recent interview. "There are villains by virtue of choices that people make but they always begin as humans, as characters. As flawed people; as tragic people. You know great movies have been made about a bunch of bad guys who get together to do something. Those are sometimes the greatest characters to watch. A bunch of broken people coming together for whatever reason."

Meanwhile, Avi Arad’s vision for this version of the Sinister Six sounds even more peculiar, as he seemed to be under the impression that audiences will enjoy seeing the likes of Green Goblin and Rhino find redemption than they would be seeing them take on Spider-Man. "As long as there's that one thing in common: they'll hate Spider-Man. They'll hate him because he's so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that's what's so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe. They have amazing stories if you look at it. And everybody's looking for redemption; they're unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we're all very forgiving."

 

[Avenging Spidey]

But the difference is the reviews for TDK and the like didn't predominantly say the plot was thin, the movie too over crowded, the villains under developed, and one or two of the actors are the saving grace of the movie.

This is a serious case of revisionist history:


"Nick Nunziata
CHUD
The film is quite special but where some films can weather extraneous or padded scenes, The Dark Knight has some distracting bloat to it which keeps it out of masterpiece territory.
Full Review | Original Score: 8/10
July 6, 2008"


And that's a positive, there is a lot of "mixed reviews" on TDK's RT score, judging from how you are analyzing The Amazing Spider-Man 2's reception. And the same goes for The Avengers or Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

 

[The Joker]

This is a serious case of revisionist history:


"Nick Nunziata
CHUD
The film is quite special but where some films can weather extraneous or padded scenes, The Dark Knight has some distracting bloat to it which keeps it out of masterpiece territory.
Full Review | Original Score: 8/10
July 6, 2008"

One review, and it doesn't even say the plot is thin, it says it has some bloat to it.

Revisionist history, yeah right.

And that's a positive, there is a lot of "mixed reviews" on TDK's RT score, judging from how you are analyzing The Amazing Spider-Man 2's reception. And the same goes for The Avengers or Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

Saying the script has some bloat to it is not a mixed review. Saying the script is thin, the villains under developed, the tone inconsistent, and the two leads the saving grace of the movie, all common complaints in most of the reviews so far, that's a mixed review. Some would even call that a negative review since it's more bad than good.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I can dig the Sinister Six film, especially because I know that Goddard will be all over that film. I don't mind been a redemption story, as long as they still fight and hate Spider-Man. Arad is correct, most of Spider-Man villains are incredibly sympathetic and if not that, at least interesting. Just look how awesome has been Superior Spider-Man or the Superior Foes comics are right now for further proof.