Wonder Woman 1984 General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

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  1. Batmannerism Super-unknown

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    Wow ! As someone who enjoyed the original WW film in 2017, I had held off seeing this- and now that I've just seen it I'm really glad I did ( and that I saw it for free). A 4/10 at best, Justice League was rubbish but actually hung together better as story.

    Whoever told Patty Jenkins that she could write good stories, was wrong. It was AWFUL ! I can't believe Geoff John's had a hand in this, maybe he was drunk or high.

    It's like she forgot all the things that made WW enjoyable and instead replaced them with goofy crap aimed at 7 year old girls. The overall wish concept is an interesting one but had to be executed in a competent way - what we saw onscreen simply didn't make sense. The way Steve was brought back is incredibly bizarre and creepy, if you think about it for more than 5 seconds .

    Worse still the film was clearly edited by remedial level film students as the third act jumps around all over the place

    Gal was still good as Diana, but even she struggled with some of the dreadful writing.
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    Wiig wasn't bad as Cheetah, although her final transition made no sense at all, and what happens after her defeat.

    In contrast Pascal's Max Lord was like a pantomime villain - or something from a 60s cartoon, but in a completely cringeworthy way. He was just about unwatchable.

    I'll post this as a review.
     
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    Creative team behind WW84 made the same mistake as the creative team behind Superman Returns. It's a simple matter of not being able to let go of the past and create something new. Superman Returns was a Richard Donner fanfic the same way WW84 was just a movie version of the Lynda Carter TV show. Patty was given the opportunity to helm a trilogy and do to WW what Nolan did for Batman. I have never been shy about not wanting Lynda Carter back in any way because I think it is just a distraction and doesn't move the character forward. Just saw a recent interview Lynda did a couple of days ago where she talks about how "Wonder Woman 3 will be full of surprises". In other words, it is probably going to be a Gal & Lynda team up film of some sorts.
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  3. Micromind Registered

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    Yeah, a team-up movie doesn't sound good, at the most I would be OK with a Lynda in a guest role where she's given 5 minutes of screen time, anything more than that would be a disaster.

    I hope they rewrite the initial draft and drop any ideas of making this into a team-up movie, let some other writer (who's not Geoff Johns) write the story.
     
  4. Milk Tray Guy 70s Man of Action

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    I didn't hate WW84 (I gave it 6/10 - there were certainly things I didn't like), but I agree with both these points. However good the third movie is, it is a missed opportunity for what could - on the strength of the first - have been a truly epic trilogy.
     
  5. dhandler01 I'm a dick vampire aren't I?!

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    If she makes an awesome third movie I think people will forgive her. Every trilogy has a dud ;)

    [​IMG]

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  6. I Am The Knight Voil√°!

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    Just keep her away from the script :hehe:
     
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    I am Thrilled.
    And, I refuse to pass judgment on this upcoming sequel before they even shot the film.
     
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    I am shocked they are keeping Jenkins around for a third movie, WW84 was a colossal flop and utterly terrible. She doesn't really understand the character at all and that was on full display in WW84 when she went unchecked. Really hoping they bring a person or two in to help with the script and produce this thing. Ugh, and the news that they want to continue with some sort of Asteria storyline.. no thank you. I love Carter as much as anyone, but let's progress this story and focus on Wonder Woman herself. Gadot was so badass in the first film and then they barbie dolled her in the sequel. Let's stop with that nonsense.
     
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  9. dhandler01 I'm a dick vampire aren't I?!

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    It was not a flop...
     
  10. Micromind Registered

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    We are getting more Greek mythology aspects in Shazam 2, with Minotaurs and dragons, wish Wonder Woman movie had those.
     
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    Not really shocking. It's the same studio that kept Snyder around for 3 DCEU films. It's just easier for them to keep Patty around and let her finish her trilogy. Gal's WW doesn't really have much of a future moving forward in the DCEU so it doesn't even really matter at this point. That's why I would argue that they just reboot now and don't even bother with the 3rd one.
     
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    I dont Love Gadot in the role, I think she works better with other characters hopefully the rumors of Nubia are true though.
     
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    #JennyFrison
    #WonderWoman80
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  14. Milk Tray Guy 70s Man of Action

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    Love that top one.
     
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  16. dhandler01 I'm a dick vampire aren't I?!

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    I find that rather surprising but happy for those involved and those that enjoyed the film.
     
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    Agreed. The film left much to be desired, but for the sake of the cast/crew/fans of the film I'm glad it's doing well. Still hoping they get back to the tone and level of quality of the first movie though.
     
  18. UncleSam1776 Registered

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    Let's compare the physical media sales for both films after 3 months of release. US only.

    WW (2017)
    3,797,931 units sold
    $76,204,647

    WW84 (2020)
    1,364,130 units sold
    $33,127,914

    Congrats to the cast & crew :whatever:
     
  19. dhandler01 I'm a dick vampire aren't I?!

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    Jesus dude...
     
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  20. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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    Let's compare the world in 2017 to 2020

    No covid.

    Covid.

    People had jobs and spent money regularly in 2017.

    People are w/out jobs, not spending as money in 2020.

    Congrats.
     
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    Yeah, WW1984 was released during second wave of Covid-19 with dual release (theatrical and HBO Max), which means basically people had seen it multiple times on HBO Max already.

    In addition, physical media (Bluray, DVD) sales even for popular movies is on decline every year.

    Marvel did not release any MCU movie in 2020, so comparing WW84's sales to other popular movie like Tenet....(US sales data from numbers.com)

    TENET
    Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $27 million

    Wonder Woman 1984
    Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $33 million.

    which is not bad ?

     
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    I wish the OG series would have had more comic characters
     
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