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Worst Moments in Comic Books

Jamiepoole said:
I think he's kinda right....today's 'hardcore' audience of anything, films, comics, videogames, seem to ***** and complain about everything. It feels like the internet is one big *****fest where people forget they are supposed to LIKE the medium they are constantly slamming.

No, he's NOT right. Hardcore am I, and call em like I see em, do I.

If it's good, I'll lead the damn parade down "This Rocks Avenue". If it sucks, then I'll say it sucks.

That's not *****ing, that's stating my opinion.

Oh, and F U PAD.
 
The problem is that not everyone likes the same things so there's always going to be someone whining about something, giving the casual observer the impression that something is always being whined about ad naseum. But the fact is that no one individual person whines about everything, and I hate it when people claim that about me. "Ooh, comic book fans will complain no matter what you do!" "Ooh, they'll complain about everything!" "Ooh, you just like to complain!" No, I don't. Seriously. For everything I complain about, I have maybe twice the amount of things that I absolutely worship and laud. People only think that all we do is complain because different people complain about different things.
 
I was going to say No More Mutants. I was going to say Disassembled. I was going to say House of M. I was going to say Bendis. But then I realized, as tragically horrific as Bendis has been in recent times, not all that I loathe about Marvel right now is his fault. These things, above, are all just symptoms. So, for my worst moment in Comic Books, I give you: The moment that someone gave Joe Quesada any authority at all.
 
Killgore said:
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That pic of Doom from Amazing Spider-man is the most ill conceived, stupid portrayal of Doom EVER. Worse than Corman, worse than organic armor, worse than everything. Straczynski butchered Doom in one fake propagandistic frame way before he started ruining Spider-man. Doom crying over the Twin Towers. That's bull crap. Doom's no crying *****. Utter bull crap. The entire issue reeked of propaganda and fake sentiment.
Actually,the only thing about that page that offended me was that Juggernaut was there,seeing as how he destroyed the WTC himself a few years back.And laughed.I guess he was just pissed that someone stole his idea.
 
I don't know the issue: but the one with Peter smacking MJ..yeah THERE's a real example to follow for the kiddies reading.:down:mad:
 
Its not orginial idea, but Aunt May's return and Sin's Past rank up there for me. There was no reason for either.
 
I blame the NON-Fate of the Phoenix/revival of Jean Grey that occurred in the mid-80s for the constant 'non-deaths' that have been happening since then.
 
Seventh Soldier said:
I was going to say No More Mutants. I was going to say Disassembled. I was going to say House of M. I was going to say Bendis. But then I realized, as tragically horrific as Bendis has been in recent times, not all that I loathe about Marvel right now is his fault. These things, above, are all just symptoms. So, for my worst moment in Comic Books, I give you: The moment that someone gave Joe Quesada any authority at all.
oh, you mean when he was put in charge of the marvel knights line, and got Kevin Smith on Daredevil, Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon on Punisher, and Christopher Priest on Black Panther, resurging popularity with those characters and ushering in what are considered some of the finest story in those characters histories?

yeah, that totally sucked
 
the day they decided Wolverine should make at least an appearance in EVERY GODD@MN MARVEL BOOK!!!
 
Making Gwen a ****s got to rank pretty high.
 
Kraven's Last Hunt - HATED that story, and deprived us of one of the original Spider-man villians.
 
This issue of Avengers where all of Alpha Flight died in some lame off panel fight
 
The Hero said:
Actually,the only thing about that page that offended me was that Juggernaut was there,seeing as how he destroyed the WTC himself a few years back.And laughed.I guess he was just pissed that someone stole his idea.
Kingpin's pressence urked me too. Its not like he is that opposed to destroying entire sections of NYC with overly crazed wackos who will do anything for their country
 
Zev said:
All I can say to PAD is "You are dead wrong." I didn't read any spoilers for The Other. It still sucks. If you knew every spoiler for Lord of the Rings (and people who read the books did), the movies would still rock. Suspension of disbelief is all well and good, but this isn't the sixties. Get over it. The hippies all sold out to the Man, John Lennon is dead, and Nixon resigned.

And guess what? Go back to the sixties and read Spider-Man and I bet a few issues after that hundredth issue, you'll find a LETTER COLUMN where people tear into the four arms thing, while other people praise it. Believe it or not, back in the day not every comics development was greeted like nectar from the gods. There was *****ing, there was moaning, and people pointed out mistakes so much that they gave out things called No-Prizes to the guys who caught them. The only difference I can see is that in the old days, when someone didn't like what Stan Lee did, he didn't call them overly dramatic little girls.

We're more cynical nowadays? Tough. You writers have more freedom than ever. You want to publish books where the characters swear and have anal sex? Slap a MAX label on it and you're good to go. You want to kill off a character for cheap shock value? You can do that too. You can even launch your own independent comic book and own the whole kit and kaboodle. Hell, if you're lucky, they'll even make a movie of your work. If, with all that creative freedom, you still can't write a good book, don't blame it on the Internet.

The Internet HELPS YOU. Think Runaways. Think She-Hulk. Think Invincible. When people like something, they talk about it to their friends, they post scans of it, they SPREAD THE WORD. That's word of mouth you could never get in the sixties. And if they use that word of mouth to warn other people to stay away from bad comics, more power to 'em. I know a lot of guys here and on other communities whose judgement I trust to tell me what comics I might like better than Wizard magazine.

I know there are people who nitpick every little detail. I don't think I'm one of them, although I will call it like I see it when I come across a comic I don't like. The majority of the Internet says "Don't hire Rob Liefeld, we don't like his art. Don't hire Chuck Austen, we don't like his writing. Don't make everything dark and gritty, we don't like that."

So maybe people would buy more comics if A. They weren't drawn by Rob Liefeld B. They weren't written by Chuck Austen. and C. They weren't all about people being raped and murdered while everyone else naval-gazed angstfully about how people were being raped and murdered.

So don't blame us for your shortcomings. The majority of fans I've met are fun, courteous, polite, friendly, good people who really want to read a nice yarn and talk about it afterwards with other people who GET THEM. We're not the enemy here. Your objective is not to shock us or to fool us or to make us angry (although you can do all those things). It's to tell us a story that we'll pay money for. Something that we can pick apart and examine and call bull**** on and criticize and gush over and REMEMBER.

And you writers love it. You worship it. It's why you write (that and beer money). You put in in-jokes and references to Greek myth and subtext and layers upon layers of characterization in the hopes that someone will pick your story apart and analyze it and post essays on how Superman and Batman respect each other, but can never be friends because of X while you go "Yes! Yes! That's it exactly! You got it!" or "I never thought of it that way, but now you've given me an idea! To the writing-mobile!" or "Wow, he's right, that *did* suck, I'll have to remember it for next time."

You've got the best job in the world. You're writing modern mythology. You're continuing the adventures of the characters you grew up with. You are the music-makers and you are the dreamers of dreams.

Don't **** it up.

This post brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for putting that so eloquently.
 
Agreed with Alpha Flight, also, just about every death that's occured in Ultimate Marvel thus far.
 
Kittie Rose said:
Agreed with Alpha Flight, also, just about every death that's occured in Ultimate Marvel thus far.
I have to agree..Gwen's death was offensive in it's brutality.
 
gliderpilotgirl said:
I have to agree..Gwen's death was offensive in it's brutality.

never mind the brutality! it sucked because it was horribly pointless.
 
yeah..was a shame to see her go, she was definately a good character.
 
For the love of Buffy, why?? So many puppies could have been saved instead.
 
BrianWilly said:
For the love of Buffy, why?? So many puppies could have been saved instead.

but at least I'm writing an angry letter....that make it better? :(
 
becaus ethe last 2 were filled with ms marvel and her beautiful ass...this one caught me off guard:(
 

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