Comics X-Men: Civil War - Which Side are you on?

[Colossal Spoons]

sentry's pro-reg. says it on marvel's website.

Yeah, I see him fighting Falcon on the cover of the Daily Bugle thing that came out this week too. Well then who the heck is gonna fight Thor?

 

[Mike059jig]

What do you call it when Madrox uses Scott's beam to make multiples of himself instead of being defeated? You obviously like Scott a whole heap. Emma was this week's badass of the X-Men, sorry you can't see it.

Yet scott comes off as sissy leader for throwing the frist blow after Siryn blasted Colossus...I guess..And Mardox was the better to talk things out first than retaliate......and I love the last 2 panels of Dialogue...Nah It's just people Blow little things out of proportion to find fault on a charcter to rant on them .....Sorry you can't see that Cyclops did more this week than wash Dishes..

 

[BrianWilly]

Did anyone read the first issue? I liked it a lot more than I thought I would.

My thoughts from the B/T thread...

Decimation was crap. O*N*E was crap. I've disliked or at the least felt unsettled about almost all of that fascist Sentinel crap from the very first day. Unfortunately, "fascist Sentinel crap" is once again in full-swing during this issue; we've still got military nonsense overrunning the X-mansion and bigotted human commanders spout not-very-subtle bigotry while everyone else just shrugs. One of the many reasons that I've been so thankful of Astonishing X-Men is that Whedon at least hasn't had to cave to these blatantly outdated plotlines.

On the other hand...there's a lot of good things about this book too. The most significant of which is that for once, the X-Men aren't going to nod politely and smile in the face of such oppression. Ever since House of M, the amount of kowtowing that the X-Men -- these supposed champions of the downtrodden -- have been doing towards the O*N*E squad coming into their home and telling them how things are going to be done has just been completely sickening. Oh sure, members of the Uncanny team have been trying to go behind their backs and pulling little pranks or whatever, but there's never been any doubt as to who exactly was in charge. Now, at long last, the X-Men have decided to grow some balls and are directly and significantly opposing the orders of the O*N*E. Better late than never I say, and the fact that it's the original X-Men pulling this coup is very satisfying.

I would feel a bit more ambivalent about Bishop all of a sudden being a O*N*E lackey except that, well, it wasn't very all of a sudden at all. It's sort of been building up in the Uncanny title, wherein Bishop has been far more accomodating to Valerie and her team's needs and far more understanding of their mission than pretty much everyone else in the mansion. Buffy alone knows what that mission is, 'cause I don't, and so far no writer seems to know either, but that's beside the point. The point is that as of the last few years of Marvel -- and the X-books in particular -- storylines actually having a build-up and characterizations actually having progress and fruition has been depressingly rare, and to see it here is a good thing. I mean, him throwing a temper tantrum at Scott for making a perfectly valid and legitimate decision -- the X-Men not wanting to risk innocent lives, what a concept! -- and accusing Scott of losing his way is a mighty *****ebag moment, but we can...sort of...see where it's coming from. I guess.

Also for once, Iron Man was written as understanding and sympathetic instead of just a big manipulative dick. Sure, he was still a bit of a dick, no I still don't agree with a single word of his reactionary ideals (that he himself doesn't really believe in but is following because he doesn't think he other side can win), but poor Tony's been painted pretty much into the antagonist in these last few months and it's nice to see him act like a good guy for a change.

Also of the good: Bobby Drake didn't have much to do in this, but this is one of two books within the last few weeks in which he didn't make me cringe with irritation every time he appeared on-panel, the other of which is the Adjectiveless title...and that's a very, very good thing indeed, if Iceman can be redeemed a bit after all the crap he's gone through from the various...less than capable writers who have handled him.

Also: Leather outfits = hell to the yes. Anything evoking Morrison's era, I'm all for.

It's weird that of all the Archangel appearances lately, he's been showing up without a costume. It's weird because Archangel does have an official costume, he's had it ever since Excalibur. Did everyone just forget about it or something? Not that I necessarily mind Warren showing up at every emergency in his shirtless skivvies, but hey...

(7.7 out of 10)

 

[Mike059jig]

Nice review..Brian...i agree alot on you points I thought it a good start..but i want it to get better...I can't believe its only 4 issues of civil war for X-men..5-6 at least

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Help me understand something....why is Xavier in his wheelchair in the picture (post #74), but in X-Men #188, he's walking.... Am I missing something?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yet scott comes off as sissy leader for throwing the frist blow after Siryn blasted Colossus...I guess..And Mardox was the better to talk things out first than retaliate......and I love the last 2 panels of Dialogue...Nah It's just people Blow little things out of proportion to find fault on a charcter to rant on them .....Sorry you can't see that Cyclops did more this week than wash Dishes..

I think Scott's been a sissy for more than this week's comics. Madrox was way more of a leader than Scott this week; retaliation doesn't equal good leadership.

 

[Mike059jig]

I think Scott's been a sissy for more than this week's comics. Madrox was way more of a leader than Scott this week; retaliation doesn't equal good leadership.

He's not a Sissy its just that you don't like the character....never said anything bout Retailation being good leadership it was a reference to your Sissy Rant...Yet Cyclops left X-factor questioning themselves whether or not they won or lost ...

 

[Mike059jig]

Help me understand something....why is Xavier in his wheelchair in the picture (post #74), but in X-Men #188, he's walking.... Am I missing something?

House of M

 

[Colossal Spoons]

He's not a Sissy its just that you don't like the character....never said anything bout Retailation being good leadership it was a reference to your Sissy Rant...Yet Cyclops left X-factor questioning themselves whether or not they won or lost ...

Ok dude, no use in debating with the president of the Cyclops Fan Club.

 

[Kevin]

 

[Mike059jig]

Ok dude, no use in debating

why thank you

 

[ProfeZZor X]

So it looks like Bishop went AWOL and joined up with Iron Man's Pro-registration Act.... How sad...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Not only sad, but how.....wrong. There're way more reasons for him to be totally against this that for it. I dunno, maybe he'll turn on Tony before this is all said and done.

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

I'm all for the Super-Hero Registration Act

 

[usagicassidy]

So would it be cheaper to buy Civil War/Frontline/and CW X-Men issue by issue, or just wait for the trades?

 

[triplefive]

I don't know about cheaper, but it's certainly a lot less work.

It would probably be cheaper to get CW X-Men by issue though, because there are only four of them.

 

[CombatRock319]

thor tends to be my moral compass in the marvel universe so if hes pro im kinda torn. cap is right though, superheroes have done so much for us. they deserve their privacy. perhaps the superheroes need to be registered with the government but not publicly known. i mean S.H.I.E.L.D knows that peter parker is spiderman and steve rogers is cap so why the hell should the world have to? im like in the middle right now. thor better put everyone in time out for fighting. that'd be superbada$$.

 

[CombatRock319]

So would it be cheaper to buy Civil War/Frontline/and CW X-Men issue by issue, or just wait for the trades?

frontline is a waste of cash... unless you want to pay 3.95 to read about ben urich, which, i definitely do not

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I think Frontline is worth the money if just to see what happens to Speedball.

 

[SMroxs]

On the other hand...there's a lot of good things about this book too. The most significant of which is that for once, the X-Men aren't going to nod politely and smile in the face of such oppression. Ever since House of M, the amount of kowtowing that the X-Men -- these supposed champions of the downtrodden -- have been doing towards the O*N*E squad coming into their home and telling them how things are going to be done has just been completely sickening. Oh sure, members of the Uncanny team have been trying to go behind their backs and pulling little pranks or whatever, but there's never been any doubt as to who exactly was in charge. Now, at long last, the X-Men have decided to grow some balls and are directly and significantly opposing the orders of the O*N*E. Better late than never I say, and the fact that it's the original X-Men pulling this coup is very satisfying.

Amen to that. I was waiting for someone over at Marvel to finally realize that it made no sense for the X-Men to be so complacent to the O*N*E occupying the mansion. I consider that to be an even more direct assault to civil liberties than the SHRA. I used to somewhat like Val Cooper, back in X-Factor, but I clearly is a bigot and has no place "protecting" the mutants.

Not that I necessarily mind Warren showing up at every emergency in his shirtless skivvies, but hey...

I agree. Nothing like a little male mutant eye candy to balance Emma's continuous displays of boobage.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

So would it be cheaper to buy Civil War/Frontline/and CW X-Men issue by issue, or just wait for the trades?

Don't do trades for a major event like this. You'll miss the excitement of reasing each issue and drooling till the next one comes out. Plus, it'll be all stale by then.

 

[Prettyboy]

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Your tagline makes too much sense, it would never work!!! I was thinking the same thing tho... "If I gotta go thru all this $#!T to protect YOU, then screw it, let Iron Man be every where at once!"

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[Colossal Spoons]

I'd be all for that, but it's not very "heroic" and the good guys would hate to have that on their consciences. I'm ok with it because 1. I can be a jerk sometimes and 2. I'd never be a hero if I had powers anyway. I'd just be a super regular person.

 

[usagicassidy]

Don't do trades for a major event like this. You'll miss the excitement of reasing each issue and drooling till the next one comes out. Plus, it'll be all stale by then.

Haha, so true. And while I'm glad that I didn't pick up House of M issue by issue (or even the trade for that matter), I think I will now most definitely buy CW, CW X-Men, and CW Runaways/YAvengers monthly.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Heh, awesome. Enjoy it