Sequels X-Men Live-Action TV Show in Development at Fox

Yeah but they are under seperate contracts with different agreements on things like renewal, what share Marvel get from the films etc. So unless the contracts contain the terms for what happens in the event of a crossover Fox would need to sort it out with Marvel before they could do anything. Without those terms there would be issues over if it was an X-Men movie or a FF movie, if so what share of the profits would Marvel get, the contracts have renewal clauses so which franchise would the film count towards, or both. Lots of details like that which would need to be sorted out.
 
I think this deal will be the big indicator of just how bad things are between Marvel and Fox. I imagine that if Fox don't agree to Marvel's first offer, Marvel will immediately say no. Don't see this show happening.
 
That's the one. Bring on Jackman as Executive Producer to make up for "Viva Laughlin" and make a few appearances as Old Man Logan.

They can use NYX as a backdrop for her supporting cast and premise. I think that would be better suited for a tv series. Later seasons can expand upon going more into X-men lore, possibly lining up with any big screen plans. I wouldnt expect much Wolverine but his presence would be felt given their connection.

This image of Lindsay Hartley from Smallville always seemed very reminiscent of X-23 to me

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I think this deal will be the big indicator of just how bad things are between Marvel and Fox. I imagine that if Fox don't agree to Marvel's first offer, Marvel will immediately say no. Don't see this show happening.

I'm actually pretty optomistic. Gary Newman wouldn't have confirmed that negotiations were underway if he didn't think he could close the deal.

New Proposal!

FOX transfers all rights to the Fantastic Four character family, including Galactus and the Surfer, to Marvel in 2020. FOX can squeeze in as many sequels as they want to the Tranktastic Four during that period, but the reversion takes place on a date certain. Marvel brings their First Family back in time for Phase 4.

FOX receives full TV rights to the X Men character family, with Marvel receiving a licensing fee of 10% of all ad/streaming/syndication revenues.

Who says no?
 
Don't think Marvel would agree to that, nor Fox.
 
I think this deal will be the big indicator of just how bad things are between Marvel and Fox. I imagine that if Fox don't agree to Marvel's first offer, Marvel will immediately say no. Don't see this show happening.

Fox seems to be extremely confident. They are looking for showrunners now. They wouldn't be doing it if the talks haven't been productive. And it seems like they have been in talks since at least October. We will see, as who knows what may be sticking points. But, I'm somewhat hopeful.
 
I think the idea is pretty cool but the fact that it hinges on Marvel's approval probably means it wont be what it could. Why would Marvel want more competition in the TV space? DC has already flooded the market with all of their shows and even more are on the way.

I would love to see one but can't see it coming to fruition. Though I would love an X-23 show :) Here's my take on the news if people are interested.

https://otlnews.wordpress.com/2015/01/27/is-fox-planning-an-x-men-tv-show/
 
I'm also optimistic about the TV Show and the Crossover. I mean, they already announced the TV Show and they feel very confident about it. And they talk about the crossover so "naturally", like it's only up to them. Their concern it's about how to do it and how to put those characters in a consistent universe. They don't seem worried about Marvel's approval.
 
I'm also optimistic about the TV Show and the Crossover. I mean, they already announced the TV Show and they feel very confident about it. And they talk about the crossover so "naturally", like it's only up to them. Their concern it's about how to do it and how to put those characters in a consistent universe. They don't seem worried about Marvel's approval.

Kinberg has mentioned X Men TV shows on multiple occasions and never brought up the need for Marvel's approval.
 
Kinberg has mentioned X Men TV shows on multiple occasions and never brought up the need for Marvel's approval.

Just because he didn't mention it doesn't mean Fox can do it without Marvel's approval.
 
Just because he didn't mention it doesn't mean Fox can do it without Marvel's approval.

I am in full agreement. I am simply pointing out that just because Millar and Kinberg have acted as though FOX can totally put together a mini MCU it doesn't mean that the crossover rights are included in the existing, separate contracts.
 
I just don't get why Marvel would ever allow Fox to produce this series considering that they were first to put obstacles in the competition's way (and now they even want to cancel comics about other heroes which they don't have rights to). Instead of simple agreement, Marvel could use this occasion to make Fox share some rights for characters like Silver Surfer.
 
I'm sure that would be part of a deal. I'd also hope they take the opportunity to discuss potential studio crossovers in the future. These two studios on good terms would open up a ton of potential for the genre moving forward.
 
I'm sure that would be part of a deal. I'd also hope they take the opportunity to discuss potential studio crossovers in the future. These two studios on good terms would open up a ton of potential for the genre moving forward.

They would crush everything if they could get along.
 
I think this deal will be the big indicator of just how bad things are between Marvel and Fox. I imagine that if Fox don't agree to Marvel's first offer, Marvel will immediately say no. Don't see this show happening.

If the deal doesn't happen, oh well. We have 3 X-Men movies next year, anyway.

And I don't think I really want a X-Men live-action TV show right now.
 
^ Cool avatar. Would it be better, though, if you picked the picture of Mara with the headseat, in front of the monitors instead? On top of her being the "invisible" woman, it may further entrap her in femenine stereotypes if she's the only one crying in a male-dominant group.

If Fox does head towards a female-centered film down the road (which is unlikely with their current focus on white men), I think it'd be these types of stereotypes they'd need to consider breaking.
 
Fox needs to realize how strong and awesome and interesting their female characters are. Joss Whedon is a guy to do that.

Hmm... just realized Chris Claremont is working on Fox... Maybe he can help Fox change their mind too.
 
^ Cool avatar. Would it be better, though, if you picked the picture of Mara with the headseat, in front of the monitors instead? On top of her being the "invisible" woman, it may further entrap her in femenine stereotypes if she's the only one crying in a male-dominant group.

If Fox does head towards a female-centered film down the road (which is unlikely with their current focus on white men), I think it'd be these types of stereotypes they'd need to consider breaking.

I picked that picture of Kate Mara because it looks intense and emotional.... not to make her look weak.
 
The only thing that will change fox mind about a female led spin off or team is if another studio like WB or Marvel do it and she that it can work, otherwise fox won't risk it
 
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Marvel created an Avenger team with a mutant leader specifically to call this issue out. For the past 3 years this has been a strong focus in the comics. It's an interesting subject to bring up. It's not like there have never been celebrity mutants in the comics as well, and the initial outcast then acceptance makes for a more important story and message then everyone hates mutants. There's no growth in that.

In the films The X-Men have not saved anyone really in the general public eye. So why would they hail them? None of that has even been explored much. All that's really been put out there is the government side of things and that these guys have potentially dangerous powers that they may not be able to control. Which many of them can't, even under the guidance of Prof X. Who wouldn't be afraid of that? There's mutants always causing damage. They have to actually develop more with humans and prove why the X-Men are good guys to the public in the films to move anything forward in that regard. While there will always be those who are afraid of people who are different, there is not just negativity and rejection.

Of course celebrity superheros in films like Stark, Johnny Storm and Cap get attention, they save cities and humans in front of everyone. The government doesn't like them either, heck that's gonna be an MCU story next year. With every hero comes naysayers and cheerleaders. Part of the job, look at Batman.

I agree they don't need the term mutant. It's useless without having a majority of the characters. And the only ones beside Pietro and Wanda they can use for their benefit at the moment would be Wolverine (Avengers) and Storm (Black Panther). More so Strom imo.

I think you misunderstand - it isn't the concept of the prejudice against mutants that is silly, it putting that into play in a world where other super powered people are hailed as heroes and beloved - it doesn't make sense the Fantastic Four and Thor are "awesome" but Ice Man and Colossus are "freaks".

The inconsistency of the attitudes does in itself mock the ridiculousness of prejudice but it just made the universe seem disjointed.

Personally, I be more wary of the ego maniac in the indestructible suit of armour or the ridiculously handsome Scandinavian super model with the big weapon than some poor guy guy who sprouted blue hair and monkey feet in his adolescence - puberty is tough for everyone ;)

I read recently that Marvel are abandoning "mutants" for "inhumans" - someone god me it was to either to make more sense of the prejudice or to remove it completely - I can't recall.
 
I don't think there's a need for consistency after 50+ years of CBs. Some fans here would point out that the X-Men aren't your typical superheroes. They're a new evolutionary race that could lead to humans' extinction just as neanderthals once went extinct after the human race too over. There's a good reason you'd fear a growing mutant population like that more than you'd fear someone who got powers from being bitten by a radioactive spider.

In my case, there isn't much else to pick from. I don't like many other superheroes out there and it's because of the themes of prejudice, discrimination, and genocide and such. X-Men holds a particular niche in the SH universe that I don't think should be torn down for consistency's sake when it hasn't really held neither Marvel nor the X-Men from being popular. I think it's too meaningful a comicbook to lose, especially in a globalized and diverse world.
 
Thanks, Duran Man!

And I had forgotten about the X-Factor stuff. I guess Fox just throws stuff out and sees what catches on. For example, when Psylocke was announced, there was a huge positive reaction online. Next thing you know, Psylocke's on the cover of a magazine with 2 main characters Magneto & Apocalypse.
 

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