Sequels X-Men Live-Action TV Show in Development at Fox

[Havok83]

X-23 series

 

[Zarex]

X-23 series

That's the one. Bring on Jackman as Executive Producer to make up for "Viva Laughlin" and make a few appearances as Old Man Logan.

 

[kaijunexus]

Marvel should demand back the FF rights and the ability to use the term "mutants", at the very least, before they even consider opening the potential profit flood gates for Fox that is X-Men on TV.

 

[Eddie]

Marvel should demand back the FF rights and the ability to use the term "mutants", at the very least, before they even consider opening the potential profit flood gates for Fox that is X-Men on TV.

After seeing Johnny "The Human Speaker" Storm and finding out that Fox is turning the franchise into a David Cronenberg inspired sci fi horror film, Marvel damn well better hold out for FF rights.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Marvel should demand back the FF rights and the ability to use the term "mutants", at the very least, before they even consider opening the potential profit flood gates for Fox that is X-Men on TV.

They should ask, not demand.

Fox won't give them F4 unless the movie fails financially, if it doesn't I could see them offering Gladiator and the Shi'Ar for the TV rights

 

[marvelrobbins]

They should ask, not demand.

Fox won't give them F4 unless the movie fails financially, if it doesn't I could see them offering Gladiator and the Shi'Ar for the TV rights

since i think X-men should remain earth bound trading the shi'ar and gladiator
to get X_men related tv show on screen would be fair deal.James Gunn would be happy to use them in GOTG sequels.

Fox shouldn't trade any FF cosmic characters.They may use them in FF sequels
if FF is surprise sleeper hit I think it could be

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Marvel should demand back the FF rights and the ability to use the term "mutants", at the very least, before they even consider opening the potential profit flood gates for Fox that is X-Men on TV.

Profit they themselves would probably get a good share of. Yeah, Disney knows what they are doing.

 

[Zarex]

They should ask, not demand.

Fox won't give them F4 unless the movie fails financially, if it doesn't I could see them offering Gladiator and the Shi'Ar for the TV rights

1st - Welcome back!

2nd - FOX is going to Marvel hat-in hand, not the other way around. Marvel can demand whatever they damn well please if FOX wants the company to hand over extremely valuable TV rights.

3rd - Marvel isn't going to fill FOX's coffers in exchange for an alien race they can easily replace, as Gunn just recently did with the Badoon. And they're certainly not going to settle on another Superman analogue when they already control Hyperion, Sentry, Blue Marvel, etc.

4th - FOX, like Sony, is going to have to part with something of value to get this done. Surfer and Galactus for one show, the entire FF family for full broadcast rights makes sense for both parties.

 

[marvelrobbins]

giving away all FF rights for approval for one show?

That's lopsided deal if i ever heard one.

 

[sleekstereo]

giving away all FF rights for approval for one show?

That's lopsided deal if i ever heard one.

Which is why Fox will never make that deal. LOLOL

All this is a crackpipe dream.

 

[Zarex]

giving away all FF rights for approval for one show?

That's lopsided deal if i ever heard one.

How the hell is that lopsided? I'll be shocked if FFINO turns a profit while an X-Men TV show has the potential to bring in tens of millions of dollars annually.

FOX could potentially have X-Factor on their broadcast network, X-23 on FX and, I don't know, DOOP on FXX. And cross them over like DC on the WB. That's an awful lot of value in exchange for alien bird people and a character Marvel may not be able to put in a film without facing DC lawyers.

FOX will either give up something thaT Marvel values or no deal will be reached. It's that simple.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

1st - Welcome back!

2nd - FOX is going to Marvel hat-in hand, not the other way around. Marvel can demand whatever they damn well please if FOX wants the company to hand over extremely valuable TV rights.

3rd - Marvel isn't going to fill FOX's coffers in exchange for an alien race they can easily replace, as Gunn just recently did with the Badoon. And they're certainly not going to settle on another Superman analogue when they already control Hyperion, Sentry, Blue Marvel, etc.

4th - FOX, like Sony, is going to have to part with something of value to get this done. Surfer and Galactus for one show, the entire FF family for full broadcast rights makes sense for both parties.

Well said. Fox showed their hand. Why? Either they are preparing to give up something which Marvel deems significant or they are trying to make Marvel look like the scapegoat (which would blow up in their faces if you view social media) if the TV show doesn't go through. I'd put a lot more stock in the former anyway.

I don't think FF would be part of the deal for the simple fact that Fox is ready to release it's Cronenberg sci-fi film. That ship may have sailed for it to happen in this particular window.

 

[Sithborg]

Ok, so let me get something here: Is a fact or just a rumour that Marvel control the TV Rights from X-Men?

The truth is, I think, a LOT more complicated. Based on what happened with the Mutant X show and the negotiations happening right now, it looks to me that Fox and Marvel have equal veto power. Neither can make an X-men live action show without the approval of the other.

And I doubt that rights are in serious negotiation. I know fanboys think that the rights are the only thing worth negotiating, but there are plenty of other kinks to work out. I would not be surprised to see ABC having the option to pass before letting other networks bid on the show.

Still, the fact that they now seem to be looking for showrunners is a very good sign. The discussions have clearly gone on for a while, since there have been rumors since October. So Fox clearly feels confident. I'm excited, though a little worried about getting too much live action X-content. I'm already burnt out on Marvel.

 

[Zarex]

I don't think FF would be part of the deal for the simple fact that Fox is ready to release it's Cronenberg sci-fi film. That ship may have sailed for it to happen in this particular window.

Unless this expands into a negotiation on Star Wars, the FF characters are the only bargaining chip FOX is holding. Marvel might be ok with a set reversion date even if it is 7 years away.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

True. I didn't think of the Star Wars angle which would bring Disney into the negotiations.

 

[psylockolussus]

It would be interesting to see if Marvel approved Fox's request.

 

[Mask&Cape]

Marvel should demand back the FF rights and the ability to use the term "mutants", at the very least, before they even consider opening the potential profit flood gates for Fox that is X-Men on TV.

Yes, to Marvel getting back Fantastic Four, but Marvel don't "need" the term mutants.

And X-Men and the concept of prejudice against mutants while hailing other superpowered beings as heroes does not make any sense, in either the comics or the MCU.

Disney should block Fox as much as possible in the use of Marvel characters and let them expand beyond movies.

With Fox only holding movie rights (is that just for X-Men or FF also?), how come Disney don't just make a Fantastic Four TV series themselves? Or an X-Men show with Wolverine that is not a part of the MCU?

The quality of a Marvel TV series would completely undermine the movie franchises at Fox

 

[def28]

And X-Men and the concept of prejudice against mutants while hailing other superpowered beings as heroes does not make any sense, in either the comics or the MCU.

Marvel created an Avenger team with a mutant leader specifically to call this issue out. For the past 3 years this has been a strong focus in the comics. It's an interesting subject to bring up. It's not like there have never been celebrity mutants in the comics as well, and the initial outcast then acceptance makes for a more important story and message then everyone hates mutants. There's no growth in that.

In the films The X-Men have not saved anyone really in the general public eye. So why would they hail them? None of that has even been explored much. All that's really been put out there is the government side of things and that these guys have potentially dangerous powers that they may not be able to control. Which many of them can't, even under the guidance of Prof X. Who wouldn't be afraid of that? There's mutants always causing damage. They have to actually develop more with humans and prove why the X-Men are good guys to the public in the films to move anything forward in that regard. While there will always be those who are afraid of people who are different, there is not just negativity and rejection.

Of course celebrity superheros in films like Stark, Johnny Storm and Cap get attention, they save cities and humans in front of everyone. The government doesn't like them either, heck that's gonna be an MCU story next year. With every hero comes naysayers and cheerleaders. Part of the job, look at Batman.

I agree they don't need the term mutant. It's useless without having a majority of the characters. And the only ones beside Pietro and Wanda they can use for their benefit at the moment would be Wolverine (Avengers) and Storm (Black Panther). More so Strom imo.

 

[Zarex]

Yes, to Marvel getting back Fantastic Four, but Marvel don't "need" the term mutants.

And X-Men and the concept of prejudice against mutants while hailing other superpowered beings as heroes does not make any sense, in either the comics or the MCU.

Disney should block Fox as much as possible in the use of Marvel characters and let them expand beyond movies.

With Fox only holding movie rights (is that just for X-Men or FF also?), how come Disney don't just make a Fantastic Four TV series themselves? Or an X-Men show with Wolverine that is not a part of the MCU?

The quality of a Marvel TV series would completely undermine the movie franchises at Fox

Though Marvel retained the TV rights to the X Men (and presumably the FF), FOX holds a lockout provision that prevents a live action series without their approval. The terms prevent Marvel from undermining the movie franchises.

 

[Lip]

Ok, since we're talking a lot about Fantastic Four right back or not to Marvel, I wanna ask how you guys feel about the possibility of X-Men and Fantastic Four in a shared universe?

I mean, I'm one of the few who is very curious and excited about this reboot, since Fox has been doing a great job the past years and since they got a excellent team of actors, directos, producers...

Now the idea of a Fox shared universe with X-Men and Fantastic Four is very interesting to me.

 

[magneto23]

since i think X-men should remain earth bound trading the shi'ar and gladiator
to get X_men related tv show on screen would be fair deal.James Gunn would be happy to use them in GOTG sequels.

Fox shouldn't trade any FF cosmic characters.They may use them in FF sequels
if FF is surprise sleeper hit I think it could be

That would be a foolish move IMO. Taking the cosmic story option away like that. And if FF turns out good you know FOX is gonna go for the shared universe with X-Men/FF. Keeping one franchise's cosmic stories open and the others non-existent wouldn't be right.

 

[Zarex]

Ok, since we're talking a lot about Fantastic Four right back or not to Marvel, I wanna ask how you guys feel about the possibility of X-Men and Fantastic Four in a shared universe?

I mean, I'm one of the few who is very curious and excited about this reboot, since Fox has been doing a great job the past years and since they got a excellent team of actors, directos, producers...

Now the idea of a Fox shared universe with X-Men and Fantastic Four is very interesting to me.

Extremely doubtful that this can happen, given the two character families are licensed to FOX in separate contracts. Unless the two distinct agreements signed way back in the 90s included crossover terms, FOX will likely have to negotiate with Marvel for these rights as well.

 

[Lip]

They already stated that they might be in the same universe.

I think the X-Men movies could still be very grounded movies, like Winter Soldier, and they could explore the spacial universe with Fantastic Four, Shi'ar, Starjammer or even some different mutants and make movies like Guardias of Galaxy.

I mean, both Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy happens in the same universe, although there is no interaction whatsoever and both movies have completely different tones. Fox could do it like that too.

 

[Zarex]

They already stated that they might be in the same universe.

I think the X-Men movies could still be very grounded movies, like Winter Soldier, and they could explore the spacial universe with Fantastic Four, Shi'ar, Starjammer or even some different mutants and make movies like Guardias of Galaxy.

I mean, both Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy happens in the same universe, although there is no interaction whatsoever and both movies have completely different tones. Fox could do it like that too.

Yeah they could do it. But just like the TV show, FOX is going to need Mama Marvel's approval.

 

[Lip]

Yeah they could do it. But just like the TV show, FOX is going to need Mama Marvel's approval.

They need Marvel approval for a crossover?

Its weird since Fox has the rights of both FF and X-Men