..Yet another British terrorist attack...

kainedamo said:
If thousands of Britains were to die, I still say a large amount of the British public are too smart to support an invasion of Iran.

It sounds like being too smart is an invitation to die.
 
War Lord said:
Good point, but there were others that were captured and they happily admitted the deed.

How could they admit to the deed? Did they magically escape the plane before crashing it? Let me guess, they we "co-conspirators"?

It's all bull****.
 
Edd Extraordinaire said:
How could they admit to the deed? Did they magically escape the plane before crashing it? Let me guess, they we "co-conspirators"?

It's all bull****.

Uh huh.
 
Think about it.

The USA and Britain need a pretex to invade Syria and Iran. We already know that screaming "WMDs!" does no good.

Israel is our ally, but that's simply not enough.

I say there will be another terrorist attack, sponsored by dirty rats in British, Israeli, Syrian, Iranian, Saudi, and US governments. They will plant suitcase nukes in a Western city. It could be London, it could be NYC again, it could be San Fransico, it could be Los Angeles, it could be Chicago, it could be Tel Aviv.

It could be all of them.

At any rate, there will destruction and carnage at such a high level, completely dwarfing the 9/11 attacks, that support will be a given. We'll invade Iran and Syria and start off World War 3.

If the scum that start this crap can't handle it, and gets unpredictable (this is the Mid-East, so anything goes) it can get real, real nasty.

Oh, and bet your bottom dollar that once nukes go off on home soil, IF they do, get ready for a full-on police state. Marshall Law. I'm talking curfews, search and seizure with no warrants, cameras everywhere, thumbscanning, retinal-scanning, tolls on roads, taxes up the ass.



Or not. I could be wrong, who knows really? At any rate, I suggest everyone get an assault rifle, practice their first person shooters, get right with whatever God you worship, give your mom, dad and siblings a hug and tell them that you love them, drop all the petty B.S. and be ready to "meet your maker," just in case.
 
War Lord said:
We'll see about that when thousands of Brits actually die.
It's a moot point. If thousands were killed in an attack by the Iranian state, then yes, the British public would most certainly back retaliation. If thousands of us die in an attack carried out by criminal dissidents operating without the knowledge or consent of any national government, then we would obviously prefer a stringent use of intelligence to pinpoint and neutralise the networks involved. Rather than another huge waste of lives, resources, time and diplomatic clout in an irrelevant invasion of an irrelevant country.
 
War Lord said:
It sounds like being too smart is an invitation to die.

Dirka dirka dirka dirka.

Maybe being too smart means knowing that invading random countries isn't going to solve anything, and could quite possibly make things worse.
 
Edd Extraordinaire said:
I would assume they're home with their families, working, living, etc.

The fact is they're alive and they didn't hijack any planes.

So who crashed the planes into the buildings then? The pilots, CIA operatives or were they really missles with holograms to make them look like planes? And demo experts rigged the buildings to fall after everyone went home on Sept. 10. Or wait no the building design already had explosives set up, just in case in needed to be destroyed in a hurry! Yeah, that's it! Hey got a great bridge in Brooklyn, you wanna buy it!?!?!
 
Lobster Charlie is absolutely right.

This has been going on, in the US at least, for decades and decades. Japan warns the U.S. about attacking Pearl Harbor(http://www.usni.org/NavalHistory/Articles99/NHborgquist6.htm), but FDR fails to WARN. In Vietnam, Johnson lied about "agrression over the open seas". What ensues? The murder of over 1 million Vietnamese and 58,000 American soldiers. Desert Storm: The U.S. needed oil supplies badly, so what happened? Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the U.S. decided to get involved with the Oil-Laden country. Now this war, a pretext based on 9/11, which I believe was an inside job. Since 9/11, this admin has done whatever they have wanted. Iraq, the Patriot Act, Afghanistan, etc. They use these events to control everyone and everything. It's a shame.
 
amazingfantasy15 said:
Or wait no the building design already had explosives set up, just in case in needed to be destroyed in a hurry!

Actually, that sounds about right.
 
Precisely, Edd.

The question everyone needs to ask is this:

"Who benefits?"

So far, it looks like The Bush Administration (unprecedented power since 9-11), Halliburton, and weapons manufacturers, not to mention Big Oil are raking in the dough.

If it were truly arab terrorists that took those buildings down, then why not just profile Arabs? Why are WE all of the sudden suspects?

Do the arab terrorists get anything? They get invaded, their countries compeltely decimated, and quite possibly (and hopefully this never has to happen) NUKED.
 
Lobster Charlie said:
Precisely, Edd.

The question everyone needs to ask is this:

"Who benefits?"

So far, it looks like The Bush Administration (unprecedented power since 9-11), Halliburton, and weapons manufacturers, not to mention Big Oil are raking in the dough.

If it were truly arab terrorists that took those buildings down, then why not just profile Arabs? Why are WE all of the sudden suspects?

Do the arab terrorists get anything? They get invaded, their countries compeltely decimated, and quite possibly (and hopefully this never has to happen) NUKED.

That's why I think Israelis are behind this attack. They can so easily get confused with Musilims.
 
I don't really want to delve into conspiracy theories.

Yes, Bush, Blair, and the Israelis all have something to gain with a good excuse to invade Iran. Yes, the timing of this terrorist attack is very convenient.

But consider this. Don't you think the events in the Middle East have been pissing off the common Muslim man? They've been pissing me off, and pissing off many white folk, even the Jewish, imagine how the common Muslim man feels.

It's reasonable to assume the attacks were planned by pissed off Muslims.
 
kainedamo said:
I don't really want to delve into conspiracy theories.

Yes, Bush, Blair, and the Israelis all have something to gain with a good excuse to invade Iran. Yes, the timing of this terrorist attack is very convenient.

But consider this. Don't you think the events in the Middle East have been pissing off the common Muslim man? They've been pissing me off, and pissing off many white folk, even the Jewish, imagine how the common Muslim man feels.

It's reasonable to assume the attacks were planned by pissed off Muslims.

So....to piss off the Israelis....Muslims....attack the US? Doesn't make sense.
 
It may not be wise, but you have to consider it's probably a move done out of anger and not about thinking about smart targets.
 
Lobster Charlie said:
If it were truly arab terrorists that took those buildings down, then why not just profile Arabs? Why are WE all of the sudden suspects?
Two words; politically correct
It's not okay in today's society to single out one group, you can't racial profile. It's stupid, but true. After 9/11, people of middle eastern descent everywhere were up in arms that Americans were mad at them because not all of them were terrorists. So to be politically correct we have random bag searches at airports so the middle easterners don't feel singled out. We all know that Granny and the mom with twins aren't gonna hijack a flight, but we've gotta be politically correct and search them every once in a while so the ACLU doesn't sue the airline or security company for racial profiling.
 
Edd Extraordinaire said:
Yes, but pissing off the US isn't exactly a wise move for Muslims.

How is it a wise move that Muslim extremists are blowing up ordinary citizens throughout the middle east that aren't even a part of these wars and just want to live their day to day lives? The heads of these organizations look for weak minded people that are pissed off at the world and fill their minds with the thought that if they blow themselves and a bunch of oridinary people up, they'll be doing a good deed and be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven. The heads of these terrorist organizations just want to spread chaos and anarchy and it's easy to do when you've got tens of thousands of people living in poverty and looking for someone to blame and the leaders know just who's fault it is that their lives suck, the US, UK and Isreal. How do you think Hitler got the Holocaust going, blaming the Jews for all of the bad things that happened in and to Germany.
 
amazingfantasy15 said:
How is it a wise move that Muslim extremists are blowing up ordinary citizens throughout the middle east that aren't even a part of these wars and just want to live their day to day lives? The heads of these organizations look for weak minded people that are pissed off at the world and fill their minds with the thought that if they blow themselves and a bunch of oridinary people up, they'll be doing a good deed and be rewarded with 72 virgins in heaven. The heads of these terrorist organizations just want to spread chaos and anarchy and it's easy to do when you've got tens of thousands of people living in poverty and looking for someone to blame and the leaders know just who's fault it is that their lives suck, the US, UK and Isreal. How do you think Hitler got the Holocaust going, blaming the Jews for all of the bad things that happened in and to Germany.
Sounds a hell of a lot like recruiting poor, misguided youth into the military doesn't it? Paint an "enemy" in crimson red, rally behind a cry of defense and security and let the bulls loose. The serfs are never going to learn of the king's benefit in their deaths and compromise of morals. Follow the money and I'm sure you'll find that this war is about far more than dirty terrorist bastards (depending, of course, on your definition of terrorist).
 
So a terror plot is foiled, and people are making up conspiracy theories regarding it? why are there so many ******s on the intnernet?
 
They should have made those bastards drink the s*** they tried to sneak in.
 
regwec said:
Whirly is not a "dumbass", he is simply tracing the problem further back than you. You are implying that domestic terrorism is our (the British government's) fault for upsetting Muslims by fighting opression abroad; Whirly is, quite rightly, pointing out that the true problem is the emergence of segregated minorities who are willing to murder their countrymen in order to undermine the democratically elected government.

Now, I have already pointed out how vasty beneficial immigration is for the most part, but I think that it is naive to insist that all immigrant communities behave in the same way. For example, there may be many highly educated, liberal, pluralistic and patriotic doctors originally from India working and living in Britain today; but there are also illegal asylum seekers who speak no English, do not interact with the rest of society, hold radically intolerant religious and political views, actively hate their adoptive country, and who have already been involved in terrorist activity in Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan or Chechnya.

It's madness to think of them as a single scion of society.

It also is the young immigrants and children of immigrants who seem most succeptable to extremist propaganda Reg. I don't know what the answer to this is as they obviously do not feel ver "British".

- Whirly
 
Fred_Fury said:
So a terror plot is foiled, and people are making up conspiracy theories regarding it? why are there so many ******s on the intnernet?

Freudian slip, chief? I know it would still be spelled incorrectly, but at first glance you know what it looks like.
 
Fred_Fury said:
So a terror plot is foiled, and people are making up conspiracy theories regarding it? why are there so many ******s on the intnernet?

That's the ironic think about irony Fred it can be very ironic.

I see your point.

- Whirly
 
Whirlysplat said:
It also is the young immigrants and children of immigrants who seem most succeptable to extremist propaganda Reg. I don't know what the answer to this is as they obviously do not feel ver "British".

- Whirly
I guess it would depend on which "extreme" you would consider be doing the propagating.
 

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