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I don't think they'll unify the titles. Its just a really dumb thing to do if they do that as it'll screw a lot of guys out of the opportunity to be a title holder and you'll have the same four or five guys fighting for the WWE Championship.

This match is just to see who is the better world champion and The Face Of The WWE. Whoever wins should vacate the other belt immediately after so the Royal Rumble 2014 can fought for the vacant title!

This is such flawed thinking, and I see it expressed a lot. This would be a perfectly valid point if the WWE Champiionship and the World Title were presented as equal in stature. But they're not. The WWE Championship is and has been presented as by far the most prestigious of the two titles, with the World Title as the second tier belt. And because your second tier belt is also a World Title, the ACTUAL second tier belts are blasted down to the third tier and demoted to often not even being PPV worthy, which has played a big part in stifling WWE's midcard.

Unifying the World Titles will allow WWE to elevate the Intercontinental Title once more. Once upon a time the Intercontinental Title was presented with about the same level of prestige as the World Title is presented now.
 
Also, while it remains an extreme long-shot, I shall hold out hope that establishing a CM Punk/Daniel Bryan alliance right now is laying the groundwork for them to face each other in the main event of WrestleMania XXX for the unified WWE World Heavyweight Title.
 
Alicia Fox almost murdering Jojo was awesome. Alicia Fox has improved so much in the ring yet she doesn't get wrestle a whole lot on the main shows.
Love how the crowd is more behind the so called "heel" divas.
With the exception of Nattie I think most people at home were as well
"Miz going for the Figure-Four Leg-Lock." I'm sitting here shaking my head in disgust.
Miz looks like he is going to botch the figure four every time he tries it. I don't think I've seen him pull it off smooth once.
"it's morphin time"

I await the CM Punk vs Xavier Woods match so they can shout Clobbering Time and Morphing Time at one anther :woot:
 
I've been watching it again because one of my fraternity brothers started watching it and his reactions to somes scenes are classic, especially to a certain explosion.

Funny that that show was brought up on here because...
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MITB ****ing sucks anyway. WWE rarely books MITB winners like credible challengers anyway. The WHC is pointless because it's a midcard title that's presented as main event. The whole purpose of a world championship is to be the top title in a given company. If it's not then it doesn't serve it's purpose.

All of this. It's merely a prop for someone to hold for at least 4 months or more and when they do win the belt, they're booked like mid-carders at best. Then again, I can rant on how MITB is pointless on another day.
 
Also, while it remains an extreme long-shot, I shall hold out hope that establishing a CM Punk/Daniel Bryan alliance right now is laying the groundwork for them to face each other in the main event of WrestleMania XXX for the unified WWE World Heavyweight Title.

Not a hope....and in the slim chance that it does, it'll be relegated down the card in favour of the part timers (with Cena in toe) taking centre stage.

I'm also going against the grain here by voicing dismay at the start of this apparent push for Reigns. The guy has potential alright, but I've seen nothing to think he's ready for a prominent position going into WMXXX. Even though Batista lacked strong mic skills when he got his chance, he still had this raw animal charisma and intensity that you could get behind.

I don't see that in Reigns though, and personally I think it'd be hard to get behind him as a face. I'm sure they'll play it as him being too cool for school, in the Kevin Nash mould. But I never liked Nash, and always thought he just came across as a muppet acting as an overgrown kid, even as a face.
 
I forgot how terrible the Strahan/Miz/Titus was from last night until I saw a replay of it. Talk about breaking kayfabe AGAIN...
 
So how long until they turn Xavier Woods heel?,His look and everything else just screams heel and especially compared to his babyface run in TNA as Consequences Creed,He can be Kofi's nemesis
 
I forgot how terrible the Strahan/Miz/Titus was from last night until I saw a replay of it. Talk about breaking kayfabe AGAIN...

I like it. In fact, there should be a Broadway-style curtain call at the end of every episode of Raw, where the performers are announced by their real names, and take a bow, collect flowers, etc.

"And playing the role of CM Punk ... Phil Brooks!"

clap clap clap

"Thank you, thank you. You've been such a lovely audience. YOU are the real stars, really, I mean it."
 
I forgot how terrible the Strahan/Miz/Titus was from last night until I saw a replay of it. Talk about breaking kayfabe AGAIN...

So, did Michael Cole laugh like a raging *****ebag during that segment?
 
So, I got bored today and decided to create some midget versions of wrestlers on WWE 2K14:

Randy Shorton
CM Shrunk
"The Height Break Kid" Shawn Michaels
The Undertiker
"The American Iguana" Daniel Bryan
 
So, I got bored today and decided to create some midget versions of wrestlers on WWE 2K14:

Randy Shorton
CM Shrunk
"The Height Break Kid" Shawn Michaels
The Undertiker
"The American Iguana" Daniel Bryan

I've done the same thing. Also obese versions and superhero versions. I ****ing love head mode.
 
So I guess the obese version of the Undertaker is the Overtaker? Then you've got:

Quadruple H
"The Meal Deal" Titus O'Neil
Bulk Hogan
Stone Cold Creamery Steve Austin
"Actual Chocolate" Mark Henry
 
This is such flawed thinking, and I see it expressed a lot. This would be a perfectly valid point if the WWE Champiionship and the World Title were presented as equal in stature. But they're not. The WWE Championship is and has been presented as by far the most prestigious of the two titles, with the World Title as the second tier belt. And because your second tier belt is also a World Title, the ACTUAL second tier belts are blasted down to the third tier and demoted to often not even being PPV worthy, which has played a big part in stifling WWE's midcard.

Unifying the World Titles will allow WWE to elevate the Intercontinental Title once more. Once upon a time the Intercontinental Title was presented with about the same level of prestige as the World Title is presented now.

This.

1. The World Heavyweight title is a joke, and you almost have to be blind not to see that, and I only need one reason to show that it's a joke in the form of a tip for WWE: A world title should never be the opening the match to a PPV like it was for Elimination Chamber in February. To make it even more embarrasing, it was defended on that card before The US title and even the Divas title!

They had a chance to elevate the title with Dolph Ziggler but they screwed him over and put Del Rio back with the title who continued to bring the prestige of the title down, though to be fair, some of it like him jobbing to WWE title contenders along with the lack of credible opponents for Del Rio also brought it down. Sure, Cena would add some credibility to it, but the title has been treated like a second tier title for such a long time now that it's too little to late.

2. The World Heavyweight title isn't needed anymore due to brand extension ending. There honestly is no need for a World Heavyweight title. You don't need a second World Title as Smackdown, along with the World Heavyweight is no longer on equal footing as Raw. Smackdown is treated more like a minor show than a major must watch that it used to be, especially since Raw gets 3 hours now.

3. It would help improve (and restablish) the Intercontinental (and maybe also the US title if they want two second tier titles instead of the US title being a third tier title) as the second tier title. Let's be honest, The World Heavyweight Title for the past few years have been treated like what the Intercontinental Title used to be. The Intercontinental title's prestige has gotten so bad that it's not even defended on PPVs anymore! Remember when mentioned Elimination Chamber and the World Heavyweight Title being defended first? The Intercontinental title wasn't even on the card! That's happened several times this year.

4. What if they improve the prestige of the World Heavyweight title? They shouldn't. Once again, Brand extension is dead. Why would you want two #1 guys around claiming their the best wrestler? It's better to have a clear cut #1 title than to confuse people on who the clear cut main event title is. It's as dumb as when boxing added all those titles from different governing bodies and confused the hell out of everyone. It's pointless.

The World Heavyweight title needs to be retired. It served it's purpose of being a second world title when Raw and Smackdown were several, but there's no need to keep it anymore when it just drags down other titles and isn't treated with importance.

Also, while it remains an extreme long-shot, I shall hold out hope that establishing a CM Punk/Daniel Bryan alliance right now is laying the groundwork for them to face each other in the main event of WrestleMania XXX for the unified WWE World Heavyweight Title.

I hope so too, but let's be honest. It's WWE. Cena is definitely gonna be in the equation. To be honest, I wouldn't be against Cena/Orton/Punk/Bryan as long as the latter two are involved.
 
This is such flawed thinking, and I see it expressed a lot. This would be a perfectly valid point if the WWE Champiionship and the World Title were presented as equal in stature. But they're not. The WWE Championship is and has been presented as by far the most prestigious of the two titles, with the World Title as the second tier belt. And because your second tier belt is also a World Title, the ACTUAL second tier belts are blasted down to the third tier and demoted to often not even being PPV worthy, which has played a big part in stifling WWE's midcard.

Unifying the World Titles will allow WWE to elevate the Intercontinental Title once more. Once upon a time the Intercontinental Title was presented with about the same level of prestige as the World Title is presented now.

Fully agreed, as HBK once said, the man makes the title and all the guys holding the WHC in recent times have simply made it irrelevant. Ditch it and reboot the IC title as a proper mid-card Championship.

Was RAW any good last night? I was living the sports fans' nightmare last night: my 3 teams (in NFL, NBA, and NCAA Basketball) were all playing at the same time, so RAW got axed. Was there anything worthy of Youtubing?

Just the top of the 2nd hour. Starts with the Punk & Bryan promo and ends with The Shield destroying Punk.
 
Ok, so we know TLC will end with a cluster-**** ending, so why not make it a cluster-**** that we can all enjoy?

Bryan/Punk win their match, and something in the match spurs the Wyatts and the Shield to really hate each other, leading into their ongoing feud, and breaking Bryan/Punk away from it.

During the main event, Cena and/or Orton is climbing the ladder to get the titles. He is almost there... Bryan and Punk hit the ring and and mayhem ensues. Punk and Bryan climb ladders together and grab the belts.

Bryan and Punk become renegade anti-heroes/tweeners, refusing the give up the belts, claiming they are the best in WWE, and now they have the belts to prove it. They swap belts with each appearance, just so neither is "WWE Champ" or "World Heavyweight Champ".

Other overlooked/underbooked guys can join the group, maybe. Basically have it be an NWO of guys who have been screwed or overlooked by WWE, but that may be a bit much.

This all leads to the big unification match with them, Cena and Orton down the road.

An actual booker could lay that out better than I did, but it's an idea.
 
Got to give it to Del Rio. While I would've preferred him having just one long reign, him being in the world title match on 10 out of 12 PPVs in the same year is an amazing feat considering Helmsley, Cena, or Punk are the only other guys to do that. (I'm sure I'm missing somebody.)
 
I'm probably in the minority on this but how about:

1. Unifiy the WWE Title/WHC-The brand extention has been dead for awhile so just do it already

2. With the unification of the titles, this will elevate the Intercontinetal title back to it's TIER 2 status

3. Re-brand the US Title (since you own the rights to WCW) to the United States Television Title something or another

4. And if you just have to, re-instate another title-Hardcore Title, Cruiserweight Title, European Title (not), or even Television Tag Team Titles

It's way that you can build future stars and so forth. As a kid, I was always infatuated with the Intercontinetal Title because if you held that title you knew that you were next in line to the 'main man'. With appropriate titles in place, you give the Kofi Kingstons, Zack Ryders, Titus O'Neals, Cesareos the opportunity to climb that latter. With 2 heavyweight titles and rotating between 5 guys you'll never really break the glass ceiling.
 
I have absolutely no problem with the world title, and I completely believe just placing it around Cena's waist elevates it. But even though I expect a screwy ending at TLC, it's pretty clear that the WWE and World championships will be unified sooner than later. I'm gonna miss the big gold belt. :(
 
Ok, so we know TLC will end with a cluster-**** ending, so why not make it a cluster-**** that we can all enjoy?

Bryan/Punk win their match, and something in the match spurs the Wyatts and the Shield to really hate each other, leading into their ongoing feud, and breaking Bryan/Punk away from it.

During the main event, Cena and/or Orton is climbing the ladder to get the titles. He is almost there... Bryan and Punk hit the ring and and mayhem ensues. Punk and Bryan climb ladders together and grab the belts.

Bryan and Punk become renegade anti-heroes/tweeners, refusing the give up the belts, claiming they are the best in WWE, and now they have the belts to prove it. They swap belts with each appearance, just so neither is "WWE Champ" or "World Heavyweight Champ".

Other overlooked/underbooked guys can join the group, maybe. Basically have it be an NWO of guys who have been screwed or overlooked by WWE, but that may be a bit much.

This all leads to the big unification match with them, Cena and Orton down the road.

An actual booker could lay that out better than I did, but it's an idea.

There's only one way that would end. Haitch coming out of semi-retirement, burying every single one of them and then holding both titles high in the air. Not ideal.. :oldrazz: :funny:
 
Alicia Fox almost murdering Jojo was awesome. Alicia Fox has improved so much in the ring yet she doesn't get wrestle a whole lot on the main shows.

I enjoyed that spot as well. Alicia has improved tremendously over the last year or so...good for her...glad she's putting the work in to get better!
 
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