The Dark Knight you know what would be crazy

Quite like the idea of Rachel going bad, Bruce could have been too late with the antidote after all. Not for Harley though, I don't want her in these films particularly, too much of a distraction from the main story. They've obviously got something important planned for Rachel but I haven't been able to come up with any ideas
 
Yea, that...or we could make Alfred's neice Batgirl!
The idea of Batgirl being Barbara Gordon, the Commish's daughter, was the result of collaboration between DC editors and the producers of the TV show in late 1966. So not all new ideas from TV or movies are bad.
 
The idea of Batgirl being Barbara Gordon, the Commish's daughter, was the result of collaboration between DC editors and the producers of the TV show in late 1966. So not all new ideas from TV or movies are bad.

That's true, but Rachel as Harley is a really, really bad idea.
 
Then have Joker read criminal law to her over and over again until she goes insane
 
That's true, but Rachel as Harley is a really, really bad idea.
Oh, God, yeah, it was in direct response to the Batgirl as Alfred's niece thing. It could have worked if it hadn't been in such a crappy, godawful movie.
 
why is it a bad idea? harley was just recently created in BTAS
 
Rachel should fill the role of Janice Porter from Dark Victory.

She'd fit into it if Nolan developed it in TDK, and it would make her much more interesting.
 
I'm shocked that this thread not closed... :o
 
WTF?
NO!

Harleen Quinzell is PERFECT name for Harley Quinn.. and the whole story on how she bacame Harley Quinn has 50% too do with her name and another 50% with love..

Like she said when the joker called her Harley Quinn "yeah i know.. i heard it before"

Mad Love is one of the BEST! origins at DC.. and it works PERFECLY! in the Nolanverse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxlSCKHCAE <-- it just WORKS!

oh well in that case you are right. i never did read that comic so i am unsure of her origin. if it fits well then no problem. i just think harleen quinzell sounds a bit stupid.
 
Rachel going bad at all is a really, really bad idea. Her becoming Harley Quinn just makes that much more implausible. The Rachel Dawes character from Batman Begins was a friggin rock. Her moral conviction, dedication, and sense of duty and purpose dwarfed Bruce's in comparison, at least at the beginning of the film. It isn't like she had some unstable personality, or rage waiting to be let loose, like Harvey Dent. The idea of her being emotionally fragile enough to try to somehow escape reality and go insane, and falling in love with the Joker is beyond far-fetched, it's just stupid. Harleen Quinzell was taken in by the Joker's twisted pseudo-philosophy because for all her degrees and professionalism, at she was an emotionally fragile, and probably not mentally unstable little girl. Most of, if not all of Batman's villains all display one common characteristic; obsession. Harley Quinn displays this as much any of the Bat-villains, perhaps more than most. In Batman Begins, did you see any obsession in Rachel? She was dedicated to her job, sure, but certainly not obsessed. I like the idea of Bruce having to fight someone he loves, but Rachel Dawes just isn't that character. Besides, isn't that what Catwoman is for?
 
....if when the joker attcked the DA's office and scars Dent, he screws up rachel so bad she becomes harley quinn.

come to think of it this is probably been thought of before.

just thinkin out loud

uhh...no thank you.
 

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