The Dark Knight Your favorite rumor that ended up to be bunk...

[TheDarkKnight08]

Maroni scarring Dent in the courtroom, that was the only I was sad no to see. But I actually liked the way things went here, kinda reminded me of Batman: TAS.

 

[Anjow1060]

i think it was very much down to the fact it was a girl who was claiming it all to be true.....i doubt anyone would have bought it if it was lets say...just all anjow or something.

the thing is that really pisses me off about stuff like this is that they ram it down your throat to the point that you must be mad if you don't believe them......but then they disappear into the night when the truth comes out...with no apology for misleading anyone. this is not aimed at miranda/anjow but scoopers in general.

Unlike some people, I apolojize and admit when I'm wrong. But the fact isn't that I, me, am wrong. I trust the wrong people from time to time.

I was right about the joker not getting a mask melted on his face.
I was right about Ramirez and Wuertz being crooked.
I was right about Gordon faking his death (oh the drama on that one.)
I let out the pics of the dead Brian, Nurse Joker and cop Joker.

MIRANDA: at the very least - found the Sides. Was wrong about the zipline BUT as I recall, was right about the "batarangs" that shoot from the arm blades. And she also mentioned that Joker was scarred by them. Which did happen, though not the way we thought/assumed. She was wrong about perma white and all that.

Speaking for "scoopers". We get information from people and some turn out to be right and some are the "celebrity morons" that mislead us. Some due it because they "come out" eventually thinking they'll get some temp. fame. THEY mislead you. We just put out there what we're told. And for a lot of scoopers, they get the idea that because they don't let out their sources (believe me, "Hitler" has grilled me a bunch of times over who mine were and I never told him) that new sources lurking here will trust us not to screw them over and cost them their jobs.

I never mislead anyone on purpose, my trust was always misplaced.

That said, I'm sorry that I can't always be right, but I do my best to get what I can.

Moving on to back on topic stuff - and yes, some of these were my own:

rumor that became bunk - the Harvey dent campaign commercial trailer, the joker poster with a dead bat in his hands.

- Jow

 

[DeaDheaD]

Its funny how most people on here disagreed that the bat-pod came out of the tumbler, and then OH NO we saw it happen right before out eyes in the film. lol

I told some one that it was awful funny the tires on the tumbler looked exactly like the ones on the Bat-pod, and you would have thought I was Joel Schumacher setting babies on fire.

 

[Showtime]

Unlike some people, I apolojize and admit when I'm wrong. But the fact isn't that I, me, am wrong. I trust the wrong people from time to time.

I was right about the joker not getting a mask melted on his face.
I was right about Ramirez and Wuertz being crooked.
I was right about Gordon faking his death (oh the drama on that one.)
I let out the pics of the dead Brian, Nurse Joker and cop Joker.

MIRANDA: at the very least - found the Sides. Was wrong about the zipline BUT as I recall, was right about the "batarangs" that shoot from the arm blades. And she also mentioned that Joker was scarred by them. Which did happen, though not the way we thought/assumed. She was wrong about perma white and all that.

Speaking for "scoopers". We get information from people and some turn out to be right and some are the "celebrity morons" that mislead us. Some due it because they "come out" eventually thinking they'll get some temp. fame. THEY mislead you. We just put out there what we're told. And for a lot of scoopers, they get the idea that because they don't let out their sources (believe me, "Hitler" has grilled me a bunch of times over who mine were and I never told him) that new sources lurking here will trust us not to screw them over and cost them their jobs.

I never mislead anyone on purpose, my trust was always misplaced.

That said, I'm sorry that I can't always be right, but I do my best to get what I can.

Moving on to back on topic stuff - and yes, some of these were my own:

rumor that became bunk - the Harvey dent campaign commercial trailer, the joker poster with a dead bat in his hands.

- Jow

As long as you take responsibility when you are wrong and don't blame it on sources. It is the job of the person providing the information to check it out with multiple sources before revealing it.

 

[Anjow1060]

As long as you take responsibility when you are wrong and don't blame it on sources. It is the job of the person providing the information to check it out with multiple sources before revealing it.

Sadly there's no "Learn to Scoop for Dummies" book. But I am learning from mistakes. I think the fact that I'm still here admitting to my mistakes and "enduring" so to speak is a testament to my intentions. Some will say it's my ego (and to a point i'm sure it prolly is) but very few other "scoopers" stick around to eat the crow.

Me?

- Jow

 

[Showtime]

That is all well and good, and from above, it seems like you're trying to own up to some info that turned out to be wrong. Which I think is noble.

My personal opinion isn't that a scooper is only as good as his sources. I believe if you provide open information you either have to let others know how accurate it may turn out to be or check it multiple times with different sources in order to make sure it is accurate. This isn't geared towards you, just my personal opinion overall. I saw that you were talking about it in here so I just was throwing my two cents in.

Now where is the Batman III info?

 

[hegele]

As for scoopers like Jow, thats what made the hype so fun in my opinion. I was under the impression for most of the production that Jow specifically wasn't to be trusted, a few things i remember seemed iffy to me and one in paticular was just not true, that didn't mean that his scoops weren't worth wild, they got the blood pumping and conversations boosting.

That all being said... now that i've seen the film, i know Jow was right about a lot of things, so thanks bud. If there is a third, i hope you stick around and keep the hype's blood pumping!

 

[Anjow1060]

I'll be here. One thing I've already heard is common knowledge is about Riddler showing up and that the next go around WB marketing takes over the marketing again for the movie and doesn't solicit 54Ent.

They're going to try and run their own viral campaign with riddles.

TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT FOR NOW. But it makes sense to me that he would be the kind of villain you could do another viral with.

<3

Jow

 

[Anjow1060]

That is all well and good, and from above, it seems like you're trying to own up to some info that turned out to be wrong. Which I think is noble.

My personal opinion isn't that a scooper is only as good as his sources. I believe if you provide open information you either have to let others know how accurate it may turn out to be or check it multiple times with different sources in order to make sure it is accurate. This isn't geared towards you, just my personal opinion overall. I saw that you were talking about it in here so I just was throwing my two cents in.

Now where is the Batman III info?

I appreciate the support. I'm just doing my best and although I still have an ego about it all, being wrong is kind of a good thing. It humbles you a bit. So like I already said.....I'm learning from mistakes.....

...and coming up with better ways to lie and deceive all of you.

- Jow

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Unlike some people, I apolojize and admit when I'm wrong. But the fact isn't that I, me, am wrong. I trust the wrong people from time to time.

I was right about the joker not getting a mask melted on his face.
I was right about Ramirez and Wuertz being crooked.
I was right about Gordon faking his death (oh the drama on that one.)
I let out the pics of the dead Brian, Nurse Joker and cop Joker.

MIRANDA: at the very least - found the Sides. Was wrong about the zipline BUT as I recall, was right about the "batarangs" that shoot from the arm blades. And she also mentioned that Joker was scarred by them. Which did happen, though not the way we thought/assumed. She was wrong about perma white and all that.

Speaking for "scoopers". We get information from people and some turn out to be right and some are the "celebrity morons" that mislead us. Some due it because they "come out" eventually thinking they'll get some temp. fame. THEY mislead you. We just put out there what we're told. And for a lot of scoopers, they get the idea that because they don't let out their sources (believe me, "Hitler" has grilled me a bunch of times over who mine were and I never told him) that new sources lurking here will trust us not to screw them over and cost them their jobs.

I never mislead anyone on purpose, my trust was always misplaced.

That said, I'm sorry that I can't always be right, but I do my best to get what I can.

Moving on to back on topic stuff - and yes, some of these were my own:

rumor that became bunk - the Harvey dent campaign commercial trailer, the joker poster with a dead bat in his hands.

- Jow

Can I just recommend something for you to practice when "Scooping" on movies? Always, always, always treat alleged inside information as strictly rumor until otherwise proven by the finished product. Just to protect your own reputation always put a disclaimer on your Scoop posts letting people know your info may or may not be true.

 

[Anjow1060]

Can I just recommend something for you to practice when "Scooping" on movies? Always, always, always treat alleged inside information as strictly rumor until otherwise proven by the finished product. Just to protect your own reputation always put a disclaimer on your Scoop posts letting people know your info may or may not be true.

Tried that. But the first time I posted a "scoop" it turned out to be right. So people actually PUT me up to the level of "scoopers". And when that happens and members get to know you all they have to say is "Anjow" and people knew. So what happened (in some, not all I admit) I would put disclaimers. And then people would go into other threads and paraphrase what I'd put. Yet somehow the "take it with a grain of salt" or "treat as rumor" always seemed to be left out. And then it spreads more and more. I even put something in my siggy once that said "unless you read my name on the post, don't believe what other posters say I've scooped." Which thenafter prompted users such as "Anjowl060" and all that.

And just as a final thought - a lot of people are so quick to criticize but never praise. Miranda was a great poster, one of her sources was solidly legit and she was good at finding things (like the sides.) To talk about her so negativly is pretty bad. Nobody's perfect.

Anywho, this has been enough about me - back on topic.

- Jow

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

All I know is I was pretty happy with everything in this film!

 

[Hole Shot]

I'll be here. One thing I've already heard is common knowledge is about Riddler showing up and that the next go around WB marketing takes over the marketing again for the movie and doesn't solicit 54Ent.

They're going to try and run their own viral campaign with riddles.

TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT FOR NOW. But it makes sense to me that he would be the kind of villain you could do another viral with.

<3

Jow

I still like ya and Miranda, Jow. Despite your misinformation campaigns to bring down Batfan society

 

[Anjow1060]

I still like ya and Miranda, Jow. Despite your misinformation campaigns to bring down Batfan society

Who knows.....maybe we're 's sent here to keep you guys guessing.



- Jow

 

[DoesItDepressU]

Who knows.....maybe we're 's sent here to keep you guys guessing.



- Jow

Do you know what the deal was with the Joker. Was he supposed to be in the third film? What other villains besides Riddler will there be?

 

[Anjow1060]

.................

This is what I posted on Jow Forums and I stick to this:

http://anjow1060.proboards74.com/index.cgi?board=announce&action=display&thread=1100

Notice what i say about my "scoops"

- Jow

 

[strikerbatman2]

That Two Face would only come in at the end of the film, as a set up for the third. This got debunked after a while, but the funny part is that the whole dent/twoface story turned out to be a central arc lol

In in a magagazne interview Nolan did right after Batman Begins. His original intention wa to introduce two face in TDK and have the third movie about trying to capture him and put put him to trial

 

[bethehero7404]

How about the rumor that Anthony Michael Hall/Mike Engel actually mattered in the movie?

Agreed. His role and that entire story arc could have been edited out.

 

[StillTheKing]

Do you know what the deal was with the Joker. Was he supposed to be in the third film? What other villains besides Riddler will there be?

There is nothing confirmed as of now

(that I know of)

 

[strikerbatman2]

nevermind lol

 

[Anjow1060]

In in a magagazne interview Nolan did right after Batman Begins. His original intention wa to introduce two face in TDK and have the third movie about trying to capture him and put put him to trial

I do remember the quote "Batman, Gordan and Dent bring down the Joker to put him on trial. And then Joker scars Dent."

And we all saw Joker flower acid in our heads.

Yet they did "bring down the joker" and as they did this - the Joker scared Harvey.

Oh that Nolan........

PS: I do remember a Nolan quote that said "Things are going to get worse before they get better." Which was a line in the movie. So when Nolan starts talking about B3 - listen closely to him.

- Jow

 

[strikerbatman2]

dble pst

 

[strikerbatman2]

I do remember the quote "Batman, Gordan and Dent bring down the Joker to put him on trial. And then Joker scars Dent."

And we all saw Joker flower acid in our heads.

Yet they did "bring down the joker" and as they did this - the Joker scared Harvey.

Oh that Nolan........

PS: I do remember a Nolan quote that said "Things are going to get worse before they get better." Which was a line in the movie. So when Nolan starts talking about B3 - listen closely to him.

- Jow

I'm a big batman fan since like the age of 5, I'm also a bit OC with this stuff, I'm gunna go dig up that issue. I think it was Vanity Fair or something

 

[Anjow1060]

that second nolan quote was seperate from the first. Just a FYI.

- Jow

 

[bethehero7404]

Not that this is a creditble source but Wikipedia said that "Dent was unconscious at the end of the film." Nothing about him dead.

I really don't want him dead. His make-up, features and EVERYTHING was perfect. He needs to be back in the third.