Age of Ultron Your worries/concerns with Age of Ultron

[Ghostcrow13]

I just can't get into it so far.

The trailers are a lot of "people looking vaguely troubled". There's not been much of substance so far.

And their "look, everyone! A robot that has no one controlling it" marketing campaign seems a little tired and generic to me. The only thing that really intrigues me so far is the idea of the team facing serious public backlash/conflict.

What substance do you want, I think the trailers have played it well, they basically show there is a lot of conflict without actually showing the action.

I agree with this. I am not a comic book reader, but more of the casual film fan, and I am trying to scratch my head around why is this mere robot such a threat? And it doesn't help that I came back from the theaters where they showed two trailers dealing with robots that can think for themselves

Wait a minute you're not a comic book reader, weren't you saying Cap should get more light because he is an 'A' character, I presumed you were going off the comics and the concept of the big 3. What were you going off?

Also the thing with the robots is, I'm guessing are you talking about Chappie and Ex Machina? Those two are more similar in concept to each other than AoU and as we get more and more robots in real life and closer to AI we will probably get more and more films involving them, they are a classic sci-fi trope which is getting closer to science fact.

I get what you mean that the GA they might say why is this Ultron a threat, but then isn't that the intriguing part, do people really need to be spoon fed in the trailer do they need a line like 'oh my god this ultron is really tough and is encased in vibranium which is unbreakable'

Or can people realise he is a threat by all the destruction and fear in the eyes of the Avengers.

 

[Bert]

I wish that the announcement of the future slate had come after Age of Ultron. I feel like we already know so much of what's coming that this movie has already happened.

I agree with that, for the life of me I dunno why they didn't wait until 2015 SDCC to release the phase 3 slate. Just announce that Ant-Man is now phase 2 and then announce new titles after. Even at SDCC i would've just announce the '16 and '17 movies and left the ones after that a secret for a year or two down the road... but what d I know?

 

[Ghostcrow13]

I agree with that, for the life of me I dunno why they didn't wait until 2015 SDCC to release the phase 3 slate. Just announce that Ant-Man is now phase 2 and then announce new titles after. Even at SDCC i would've just announce the '16 and '17 movies and left the ones after that a secret for a year or two down the road... but what d I know?

Something to do with DC announcing their slate, and then people going on about how they were bringing more diversity with WW and Cyborg, and Marvel and Feige were probably just annoyed because they knew BP and CM were coming.

The slate doesn't actually reveal too much apart from the franchise characters aren't going to die, which was obviously the case anyway

 

[Uskok]

2) This concern started with The Winter Soldier and carried into Agents of Shield - the direction of character costumes in the MCU is trending too far to the generic. MCU Hydra is just look like standard soldiers/mercs, S.h.i.e.l.d. agents wear business suits (for the most part), and Scarlet Witch is dressed like she came straight from a department store. I get that a lot of the comic outfits (jumpsuits and bikinis) won't translate well but can we get some kind of uniform for S.H.I.E.L.D. (if they come back) and Hydra. At least coordinated colors. This is a comic book movie. Not Homeland.

Walking around in a green and yellow suit with some red-eyed mask would attract unwanted attention.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I do have some concerns with this movie.

I don't feel Marvel let Joss off the leash enough with the first movie. I found it understandable at the time, but I think it contributes to the first movie getting worse for me the more I watch it. I hope they let Joss do more of his thing this time, as other stuff Joss has done has always had a good re-watch ability factor.

I hope this sequel has more substance than the first movie also, another reason I think the first movie gets worse the more I watch it. It would be nice for the team to meet Coylson again, and in general I think more emotional scenes are needed.

Lastly would certain characters not getting enough screen time. The balance in the first movie was pretty perfect, but then they didn't really have to develop the villain as another movie had already done that. Here Ultron will need to be developed from the ground so I hope this doesn't mean certain characters being short-changed.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

My big worry now is that by the time AoU releases, the next slate of film casting announcements will have killed any and all suspense. Just knowing BW is in the next movie is such a downer, it removes a lot of questions

 

[BlackFox]

Lastly would certain characters not getting enough screen time. The balance in the first movie was pretty perfect, but then they didn't really have to develop the villain as another movie had already done that. Here Ultron will need to be developed from the ground so I hope this doesn't mean certain characters being short-changed.

Yeah this is mine too, but I have sort of excepted that characters like Hawkeye are probably not going to get a great deal of attention, especially as this film has to establish Ultron, the twins, Visioin and Andy Serkis' character. Unless its like 4 hours long, lol which is silly anyway, there isnt going to be time to give everyone their due unfortunately.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah this is mine too, but I have sort of excepted that characters like Hawkeye are probably not going to get a great deal of attention, especially as this film has to establish Ultron, the twins, Visioin and Andy Serkis' character. Unless its like 4 hours long, lol which is silly anyway, there isnt going to be time to give everyone their due unfortunately.

Yeah, I can't see the movie being longer than 2 and a half hours. But even with that run-time someone is going to get short changed. We already know Fury and Maria Hill won't have much of a role, beyond that Hawkeyes seems the most likely. Even though Joss did say he would get more screen time in this movie, I can't see it happening once all is said and done.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Yeah, I can't see the movie being longer than 2 and a half hours. But even with that run-time someone is going to get short changed. We already know Fury and Maria Hill won't have much of a role, beyond that Hawkeyes seems the most likely. Even though Joss did say he would get more screen time in this movie, I can't see it happening once all is said and done.

To be fair he only had I think 12 minutes last time, so he could still be barely in the film and still have way more screen time, though personally and I've said it for a while, I believe he will be in it more than the twins.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

To be fair he only had I think 12 minutes last time, so he could still be barely in the film and still have way more screen time, though personally and I've said it for a while, I believe he will be in it more than the twins.

Ah well, we will see, the twins will have more screen time IMO. They are more marketable characters in terms of toys, etc, so that could be a factor.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Ah well, we will see, the twins will have more screen time IMO. They are more marketable characters in terms of toys, etc, so that could be a factor.

Well they aren't being marketed at all, they are barely on any promos and I think I'm right in saying the only toys of them so far are those ugly looking miniatures things posted recently.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I get what you mean that the GA they might say why is this Ultron a threat, but then isn't that the intriguing part, do people really need to be spoon fed in the trailer do they need a line like 'oh my god this ultron is really tough and is encased in vibranium which is unbreakable'

Or can people realise he is a threat by all the destruction and fear in the eyes of the Avengers.

Quoted for emphasis. Some of us don't want the trailer to give away everything in the plot. It's clear from what we see that he is a threat, let's preserve some surprise as to why.

 

[Miqu]

I believe Thor won't have much screen time simply because he isn't realy part of the story. I mean Tony will have to deal with the creation of Ultron, Cap will argue with Tony about what they should do ( setting up Civil War ), BW will get her origin story and a relationship with Hulk who will still have anger issues and wants to find out how can he have sex becouse his girlfriend is played by Scarlet Johanson ( kidding) and I think Hawkeye will have the first encounter with the twins ( judging from the trailers ) and maybe he will convince them to join the avengers while rescuing civilians ( probably from Sokovia ) but anyway it seems like he has much more role then in the first one. Whedon usualy creats awesome villains so i bet Ultron will be one. So that leaves only Thor out.

 

[walltron]

Yeah, I can't see the movie being longer than 2 and a half hours. But even with that run-time someone is going to get short changed. We already know Fury and Maria Hill won't have much of a role, beyond that Hawkeyes seems the most likely. Even though Joss did say he would get more screen time in this movie, I can't see it happening once all is said and done.

To be fair he only had I think 12 minutes last time, so he could still be barely in the film and still have way more screen time, though personally and I've said it for a while, I believe he will be in it more than the twins.

Well to be honest all you have to do is look at what we know of the movie, what we've seen in the trailers, and what we've seen in old set photos from last year.

We know there will be plenty of stark and cap. They are marvel's main stays. Thor will have less then them. He doesnt seem all that prominent in the story. He will most likely just be..around. Widow seems to be getting alot of focus.

Now in terms of hawkeye and hulk...Fiege and Whedon and Renner have around 7-8 different occasions between them where they go on about their larger roles. Renner seems generally pleased this time around..since he is always talking about it.

So there’s a lot for me to do in this. There’s some essential storylines that Hawkeye’s a part of and really cool secrets that are revealed. There are new relationships, and relationships that existed are deepening and shifting and changing. It’s really great. It’s really, really quite a fun universe to be in. So I’m very excited and very happy with what we achieved on this one.

That sounds nothing like a guy that got shafted. He may not have a lot of solo scenes but him just being around from the start of the movie to the end and interacting with everyone on screen will easily double his screen time. No way he doesnt have more than the twins. Hell, a lot of it seems to be with them. Those old set photos showed him with Wanda on like 3 different occasions. I'm willing to bet he interacts with them more than the other avengers. Not to mention a good portion of the second act seems to place at his farm, he will easily have more than before.

Hulk we already know seems to be a big part of the movie judging by the trailers. As another person said, the fact that the group will be together most of the time instead of one or two off screen, should bolster plenty of screen time for the main guys.

I see it going
Stark
Cap
Thor
Ultron
Widow
Hulk slightly over
Hawkeye

Twins
Vision

None of the new characters will get more screen time over the returning guys save ultron.

 

[Jaxon]

My biggest concerns are with the twins starting the make the DC very comicy like how poorly the x-men films have come across. I thought Thor bridged nicely the world of magic into science but the sort of gimmicky powers like super speed sort of start giving it a comic book feel. The DoFP super speed was just cartoonish and silly and it breaks all tension in the movie when someone is that OP. So they really need to make him not ridiculous speed.
The other is also vision who also might come across as a cartoon red caped dude green face and like stupid.

 

[ctsketch]

My biggest concerns are with the twins starting the make the DC very comicy like how poorly the x-men films have come across. I thought Thor bridged nicely the world of magic into science but the sort of gimmicky powers like super speed sort of start giving it a comic book feel. The DoFP super speed was just cartoonish and silly and it breaks all tension in the movie when someone is that OP. So they really need to make him not ridiculous speed.
The other is also vision who also might come across as a cartoon red caped dude green face and like stupid.

It's a COMIC BOOK movie dude... and in the other thread you said you hate villains that are mutants or use cgi and you want them to be normal humans. Do you even like the genre?

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Yeah, I am also concerned the inclusion of the twins will make the films seem more outlandish than the previous 2 phases. Even GotG felt grounded in "real world" tech (as much as a sci-fi film can), whereas the twins seem to be "unexplained magic"

 

[Ghostcrow13]

More outlandish than a man growing three feet, 600 lbs and turning green.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well they aren't being marketed at all, they are barely on any promos and I think I'm right in saying the only toys of them so far are those ugly looking miniatures things posted recently.

I don't think that is a factor. They are marketing the known characters the most, it makes sense as this is what the audience are wanting to see. Plus Joss loves keeping unknown elements a secret. I wouldn't say Ultron has been marketed that much really. I think they want to keep the new elements a surprise, which I commend them for personally.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I am also concerned the inclusion of the twins will make the films seem more outlandish than the previous 2 phases. Even GotG felt grounded in "real world" tech (as much as a sci-fi film can), whereas the twins seem to be "unexplained magic"

Wanda I can see (her powers have always been relatively undefined), but Pietro? He just runs fast. Given that Agents of SHIELD has people freezing things, turning into whatever they touch, and causing earthquakes, I doubt running fast is too outlandish.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Wanda I can see (her powers have always been relatively undefined), but Pietro? He just runs fast. Given that Agents of SHIELD has people freezing things, turning into whatever they touch, and causing earthquakes, I doubt running fast is too outlandish.

Yeah, AoS has been laying some groundwork, but I just fear that with the Inhumans coming, we're setting up for a random assortment of powers that are decided by VFX committee before the film comes out (like X-Men's inclusion of Sunspot for example). Probably and unfounded fear, but I like the MCU's grounded feeling

 

[BigThor]

Nope bring on all the powers you can, screw being grounded. The whole lame magic is science concept is one of the few things I dislike about the MCU.

 

[MbJ]

If you want to make a claim of being outlandish Quicksilver's DOFP sequence is probably the worst example to use giving all the positive press it got.

Also, seriously? I'm of the mindset that there are certain things that don't work outside comics. I think Cap's Avengers suit looked stupid as hell and I'm probably one of the 3 people on the internet who doesn't think Hawkeye needs to wear purple spandex and a Wolverine mask. But even I think the Maximoffs look in no way outlandish. Hell it looks like they've deliberately tried to tone them down visually to make them more realistic.

Well they aren't being marketed at all, they are barely on any promos and I think I'm right in saying the only toys of them so far are those ugly looking miniatures things posted recently.

The toys will come eventually in waves.

I said so in the main thread but my theory is the reason they're underrepresented in the marketing so far is because they want the GA to view their role as a surprise. Most of the promo stuff released has shown them to be antagonists (standing with Ultron, the poorly recut/spliced scene that makes it look like Scarlet Witch is blasting Iron Man into a wall) and I think they want to maintain that feel until the climax of the movie, where they'll obviously switch sides and join the Avengers.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

my 1 worry is if this shared universe, joint superhero thing will eventually be seen as a novelty and no longer break records at the box office.

 

[warhorse78]

Wait a minute you're not a comic book reader, weren't you saying Cap should get more light because he is an 'A' character, I presumed you were going off the comics and the concept of the big 3. What were you going off?
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A combination of my friends and cousins who are comic book readers, and here, which is why I joined, so I can get the blanks filled in for me. I'm more of a novel reader than a comic book reader, and prefer to just read a book like Harry Potter than to decipher pics in a comic. Granted, the only comics I did read were Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Conan.