Zatanna

I’d like to see Naomi Scott as Zatanna. She has the look and the spunk.

Give her Klarion to tangle with in the movie.
 
And that’s only the tip of the iceberg. I’d like Ava DuVernay to officially step away from New Gods; I think she’s much better suited for an X-Men movie. Though I suppose she could do both. More and more the actors are crossing over Marvel and DC, why not the directors ?
Russo Brothers for a Justice League sequel?
 
As well you should. :o
 
Preferred choice is Alexandra Daddario


Second choice would be Eiza Gonzalez although I'd have preferred her as Catwoman in The Batman

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Not that I'm against it or something, but it seems weird.
How did Warner come up with this idea? She hasn't been around since Smallville. If she actually appeared on Arrow, I don't remember it at all.

"Hey, what if we make a Zatanna film?"
"Oh, what a great suggestion. Let's go!"
Is that how the meeting went?

Why didn't they think of adapting Green Arrow first? He's long overdue for getting a film.
And for the more special effects bombastic adventure, there's the Hawk couple.
These are the DC characters that would normally be first in line for the next adaptions. If we look at it with logical eyes. But not at Warner. Things work different there.

And Warner, you do know your studio bought the rights to Mandrake the magician years ago, right?
Maybe they wanted to adapt him instead, but since female lead comic books have become the new thing, they went with a "female Mandrake".
Their outfit is partly similar, and she's somewhat more known to GA than Mandrake.
 
Not that I'm against it or something, but it seems weird.
How did Warner come up with this idea? She hasn't been around since Smallville. If she actually appeared on Arrow, I don't remember it at all.

"Hey, what if we make a Zatanna film?"
"Oh, what a great suggestion. Let's go!"
Is that how the meeting went?

Why didn't they think of adapting Green Arrow first? He's long overdue for getting a film.
And for the more special effects bombastic adventure, there's the Hawk couple.
These are the DC characters that would normally be first in line for the next adaptions. If we look at it with logical eyes. But not at Warner. Things work different there.

And Warner, you do know your studio bought the rights to Mandrake the magician years ago, right?
Maybe they wanted to adapt him instead, but since female lead comic books have become the new thing, they went with a "female Mandrake".
Their outfit is partly similar, and she's somewhat more known to GA than Mandrake.
I don’t think Green Arrow would fly in today’s politically divided climate unless you do what the CW did and water him down until he is Batman with arrows. I mean, I would love a modern day Robin Hood, SJW, street-level hero for the people, but you would probably alienate a lot of the audience with that.

Zatana I could see having a lot of appeal, and could touch many niches, from superhero fans, horror fans, fantasy fans, people looking for strong female characters and horny teens wanting to see an attractive actress in Z’s costume.
 
Apparently Warner Brothers wants Emilia Clarke for the role of DCEU Zatanna especially with the DCEU making a comeback
 
I've never really seen the appeal of Zatanna. She seems like a goofy character; the magician as superhero. Every time I see an appearance by her in the comics I tend to roll my eyes.
 
I don’t think Green Arrow would fly in today’s politically divided climate unless you do what the CW did and water him down until he is Batman with arrows. I mean, I would love a modern day Robin Hood, SJW, street-level hero for the people, but you would probably alienate a lot of the audience with that.

Zatana I could see having a lot of appeal, and could touch many niches, from superhero fans, horror fans, fantasy fans, people looking for strong female characters and horny teens wanting to see an attractive actress in Z’s costume.
I don't think that is the primarily reason they won't do Green Arrow. I rather have the feeling it's the "non-Supes/non-Bats syndrome". For years they tended to shy away from other characters. All the while MCU have success with really low-tiers like Ant-Man and GOTG.
Until now, because things are starting to move in the DC stable.

But let's look at it.
Hal Jordan is from the silver age but we had to wait until 2011 for an actual GL film. But that one was thrown together quickly just to prove "look, we can make films of other heroes too!" Well... YAY!
Then six more years for WW. But she was being made partly because MCU have had strong female heroes and warriors for some years (BW/Sif), and partly because the Avengers universe was so successful. It was believed the same could be done with DC heroes, and WW is obviously a logical member of DC hero teams. She can't be overlooked
Another heavyweight character is Flash, and he has actually yet to get a own solo film. The special effects were good enough for him already by 1999, The Matrix showed us that.
Flash is the fastest character but even Aquaman got his film first. LOL on that
Warner wanted to make him their "Thor".
But they screwed up the character, somewhat making him be the weak link in his own film. That it was otherwise a entertaining cgi party with some stunning parts doesn't change the fact the character/actor could've been better. His jokes were stinkers, among other things.
Also, Hemsworth might not be the best actor in the world but he owns Momoa. That's for sure.

To sum it all up, it's horrifying how late the DC top tiers made their way to the big screen.
(some may question if Aquaman ever was a top-tier, lol)

G. Arrow is lesser known than others mentioned. Who knows how much longer we have to wait. 10 years? 15?
It doesn't matter he grew in popularity when becoming a regurlar on Smallville, and then getting his own series for nearly 10 seasons.
The foundation for a film is already there but Warner don't see it that way. They think that even more obscure properties than him, for example like Gotham City Sirens, should be made first. Perhaps because it has hot women. And that could be why Zantanna is being made.
Her character, her powers and her backstory - might be all secondary. What's matters is having a sexy woman who kicks guys' a**ses.
You even said the same: "horny teens wanting to see an attractive actress in Z’s costume"
Then add some badly written lines who make us writhe in our seats. That's Warner in a nutshell.

Wonder Woman turned out good by accident, or because because Patty Jenkins put her foot down on that one. Without her at the helm, making sure it had some quality, it could have been crap.
But she's not anyhere near Nolan's level, so let's say it was 50% good luck.

I would very much want to be a fly on the wall during the studio's meetings.
That one I put in bolded letters for a reason.
It seems they just throw out ideas at random, and then have no clue what to do with them.

Let's just hope Zantanna can be a positive surprise.
To me, Mandrake would be more interesting. He's a classic character who's been around for 90 years or something.
But that's just my opinion.
If Warner don't go into production with Lee Falk's crime fighting magician during the upcoming five years, they should just sell the rights. Give someone else a chance.

Among the characters in the list presented here. I think the following can be somewhat interesing:
Supergirl
Batgirl
Nightwing
Booster Gold
Blue Beetle.
Two of them might never get made. That leaves us with three. And among them, only one could end up being good. Make that two if we're really, really lucky.
Wasn't there also a Plastic Man rumour lately? It's hard to follow the studio's every twist and turn.
 
Got to think of this.

Every guy at Warner when it comes to their superhero stable.
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I don't think that is the primarily reason they won't do Green Arrow. I rather have the feeling it's the "non-Supes/non-Bats syndrome". For years they tended to shy away from other characters.

It doesn't matter he grew in popularity when becoming a regurlar on Smallville, and then getting his own series for nearly 10 seasons.
The foundation for a film is already there but Warner don't see it that way.
I would actually say that WB is even afraid to put an investment into a real Superman movie. They’ve bought into this idea that most comic book superheroes are irrelevant in today’s society unless they are dark and brooding. This attitude is strange given that Marvel is churning out multiple brightly colored, borderline comedies every year and the. Swimming in money Scrooge McDuck style.

But that aside, I don’t necessarily want the Green Arrow that we saw in Smallville or on Arrow. GA should not be Batman lite. He is a street level hero for the everyman. He’s probably best characterized as a political version of Daredevil more than anything. And I don’t see Marvel jumping at a Daredevil film again, even without throwing in right wing socialist SJW politics into the mix, which is necessary for a proper Green Arrow.

Her character, her powers and her backstory - might be all secondary. What's matters is having a sexy woman who kicks guys' a**ses.
You even said the same: "horny teens wanting to see an attractive actress in Z’s costume"
Then add some badly written lines who make us writhe in our seats. That's Warner in a nutshell.

Wonder Woman turned out good by accident, or because because Patty Jenkins put her foot down on that one. Without her at the helm, making sure it had some quality, it could have been crap.
But she's not anyhere near Nolan's level, so let's say it was 50% good luck.
Lol. I’m much more positive about the Wonder Woman movie. I actually loved it. And I think Aquaman accomplished exactly what it set out to do, so I am more positive about it as well. But I get your point and I agree. Zatanna is a great character, but she is also a very easy one to put the point of emphasis in the wrong place. She could very easily fall into the trappings of a Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern with one misstep in the script or direction. And WB doesn’t necessarily have the cache or the goodwill to put fears at ease that that won’t happen.
Let's just hope Zantanna can be a positive surprise.
To me, Mandrake would be more interesting. He's a classic character who's been around for 90 years or something.
Excellent point. And on a similar note, I would probably prefer that Zatanna be brought in in more of an ensemble picture than a solo outing. Maybe Justice League Dark or maybe just a team up with other heroes such as Dr. Fate and Detective Chimp.

Among the characters in the list presented here. I think the following can be somewhat interesing:
Supergirl
Batgirl
Nightwing
Booster Gold
Blue Beetle.
Two of them might never get made. That leaves us with three. And among them, only one could end up being good. Make that two if we're really, really lucky.
You know me. I’d be over the moon for any of these movies, especially Bathirl, Nightwing, or Booster Gold (leading into a Ted Kord team up)
 
Where did I claim WW is bad? Didn't I say it's a good film? :)
Lol. You say it was “good by accident”. Not exactly a glowing review. But I am a bit different as far as my outlook on DC on film. Post Nolan trilogy, I’d say WW was very good, if not great. Aquaman was also very enjoyable. Shazam has its moments as did MoS. Heck, I even found Justice League to be something that I can enjoy. I actually don’t think the DC slate has been that bad. There are a good number of enjoyable films.

of course I try to put BvS, Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey out of my head.
 
Lol. You say it was “good by accident”. Not exactly a glowing review.
Good by accident still means it's good, right? :)

I meant it was an accident that it turned out THAT good.
Just like you, I think it's great.

Then I added that Jenkins could play a part in the film's quality, and the rest was good luck. She's not an auteur like Nolan who's name is a quality mark in itself, I so it can't only have been her doing.

With good luck, I mean it could have turned out like Suicide Squad, an almost universally mocked film.
While I go against majority and somewhat enjoy that too, it's nowhere near WW.
Warner did them both, then how come one film is better than another?
It would have been so easy to turn WW into a campfest. But it holds up amazingly well.
So what's the reason?
 
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Good by accident still means it's good, right? :)

I meant it was was an accident that it turned out THAT good.
Just like you, I think it's great.

Then I added that Jenkins could play a part in the film's quality, and the rest was good luck. She's not an auteur like Nolan who's name is a quality mark in itself, I so it can't only have been her doing.

With good luck, I mean it could have turned out like Suicide Squad, an almost universally mocked film.
While I go against majority and somewhat enjoy that too, it's nowhere near WW.
Warner did them both, then how come one film is better than another?
It would have been so easy to turn WW into a campfest. But it holds up amazingly well.
So what's the reason?
Sorry. I misunderstood your first post.

I think the reason is several factors from script to direction to acting. In totality it worked.
 
I was thinking, as my favorite Hailee Steinfield is now confirmed as Kate Bishop in the Marvel Tv series Hawkeye, and given Zatanna's heritage, why not an Italian actress portraying her?

Like Matilda De Angelis, fresh from The Undoing tv show with Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant.

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AT&T recently revealed a Zatanna project in the works. No word on if its a movie or MAX series
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Where's Titans, Stargirl, Doom Patrol ? What about James Wan's The Trench ? Or Patty Jenkins' Amazon ?

What happened to JJ Abrams' Justice League Dark ? Wasn't Batgirl cancelled after Joss Whedon left ?

Also, the Flash logo and the Supergirl logo is there for what ? CW series or their movies ? lol.
 

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