Ziggler gets a Wrestling Thread...It's About Damn Time!!!

[The Sage]

Taping? I thought Impact was live all summer?

Wade Barrett? Who's that?

 

[Superark]

so...Angelina's out...?

is it me or while WWE releases people like crazy, it seems people in TNA quit more than are released?

Unlike WWE, TNA only has 2 hours of television a week and limited spots to use talent. Many, if not most, of the talents only get paid when they are used. This why TNA allows for independent bookings for their talent.

Like any wrestling company, TNA is always looking at new talent to bring in to keep the company fresh. That means certain wrestlers are going to not be used from time to time.

It makes sense why some wrestlers leave TNA. You're not getting paid if you're not on shows.

Cliff Compton, aka Domino from WWE, sorta talked about this today on PWInsider.com. He said when he worked in WWE, he was happy when he had the tag belts because he knew that he would be booked for more shows and make more money due to that. It had nothing to do with a push, just guaranteed work and pay.

It was interesting to hear him talk about the difference in the locker rooms of WWE and TNA. TNA is much more laid back and everyone is friendly and has a good time, trying to help each other. He says its a total 180 from WWE where you guys are constantly worried about getting fired and the veterans get pissed if you do not bow down to them and make sure you shake their hand.

 

[Superark]

Update on Hulk Hogan following Head related injury

Hulk Hogan announced this evening on Facebook account that they had suffered a Head related injury and missed their scheduled matches in Orlando as a result. Despite loss of muscle function, they worked a match at tonight's iMPACT taping, wearing a Scarf while competing.

I do not know if this is suppose to be a joke post or what, but TNA does not tape Impact right now and Hulk. This is obviously BS "newz"

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Click the link.

 

[Karelia]

Wrestling collection so far:
The Rock: Epic Journey of Dwayne Johnson (Blu Ray)
Edge: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (Blu Ray)
Wrestlemania 28 (Blu Ray)
Breaking The Code: Behind The Walls of Chris Jericho (DVD)
Jeff Hardy: My Life, My Rules (DVD)

Anybody got some more recommendations? Any Wrestlemania's that are definitely worth buying?

 

[Incrediblejeff]

The Rise and Fall of ECW is great.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Wrestling collection so far:
The Rock: Epic Journey of Dwayne Johnson (Blu Ray)
Edge: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (Blu Ray)
Wrestlemania 28 (Blu Ray)
Breaking The Code: Behind The Walls of Chris Jericho (DVD)
Jeff Hardy: My Life, My Rules (DVD)

Anybody got some more recommendations? Any Wrestlemania's that are definitely worth buying?

Wrestlemania XIX, 21, 24 and X-Seven if you can find it.

I liked Big Show's DVD, I've heard good things about the Orton DVD, but have yet to see it.

Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak and Triumph and Bret Hart: The Best There Is, The Best There Was, and The Best That There Ever Will Be.

 

[Metallo]

so...Angelina's out...?

is it me or while WWE releases people like crazy, it seems people in TNA quit more than are released?

Wow thats uinformed. especially considering that Maxine JUST left WWE by her own choice and so did The Bellas.

Before that you had guys like MVP and Kaval/Low Ki CHOOSING to leave. People CHOOSE to leave both companies about the same. Then you have plenty who get released.

 

[Wheels]

Wrestling collection so far:
The Rock: Epic Journey of Dwayne Johnson (Blu Ray)
Edge: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (Blu Ray)
Wrestlemania 28 (Blu Ray)
Breaking The Code: Behind The Walls of Chris Jericho (DVD)
Jeff Hardy: My Life, My Rules (DVD)

Anybody got some more recommendations? Any Wrestlemania's that are definitely worth buying?

WrestleMania X7 is the best WWE PPV ever. You have to watch it.

 

[Superark]

MAJOR NAME TURNS DOWN WWE HALL OF FAME INDUCTION
by Mike Johnson @ 6:03 PM on 7/2/2012

One of the stories making the rounds today, which I was told was broken by The Wrestling Observer is that WWE had invited Bruno Sammartino to be inducted into the 2013 Hall of Fame.

PWInsider.com was sent the following statement from Sal Corrente on behalf of Sammartino:

We understand that word has broken on the Internet regarding "The Living Legend" Bruno Sammartino being inducted in to the WWE Hall of Fame in 2013. Since word has broken publicly, I can confirm that we have been contacted. I have been asked by Bruno Sammartino to announce that he will NOT be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame in 2013.


"The Big Cheese" Sal Corrente

 

[TX85]

Not surprised at all Bruno still don't want any part of the WWE Hall of Fame!

 

[Slushy]

Bruno was way before my time. I watched a few of his matches which are pretty boring (seriously, even The Ultimate Warrior's matches are more exciting to watch) and I read a few of his interviews where he comes off as an arrogant pr*ck such as claiming he was a better draw than Hogan AND Austin!

One of the reasons for his dislike for the WWE is because of how the business has turned out. What Bruno (and any other jealous, bitter old fart) fails to understand is that things are different now and work in a more efficient way. Sure, Alexander Bell had the first phone, but the one I have now is a million times better. Its called PROGRESS.

I think the main reason though is because the push for his son, David, didn't work out.

Hopefully, Vince will get back at Bruno *****emartino by inducting him after he's dead.

Any Wrestlemania's that are definitely worth buying?

Wrestlemania 26 was pretty good.

He has potential but none of his matches or promos are anything memorable.

His matches against John Cena at Hell In A Cell 2010 and Daniel Bryan at SummerSlam 2011 were pretty good. I also enjoyed his work in the 2011 SD Elimination Chamber. I feel bad for Barrett though, the guy has great potential as it showed on NXT, but he never got that big chance to shine as WWE failed to capitalize on him by not giving him the WWE Champion during the Nexus angle and now he has to play catch up since The Miz was a failure.

Re: Angelina Love

Hopefully, WWE will take her back since she made something out of herself.

 

[The Sage]

- After Tensai attacked Sakamoto on RAW a few weeks back, it was believed that the two were going to split as part of Tensai being repackaged. Sakamoto was back with Tensai on Friday's SmackDown as he qualified for Money in the Bank.

- WWE did angles at this weekend's live events where Alberto Del Rio attacked Ricardo Rodriguez following a loss to Sheamus. Del Rio took his loss out on Rodriguez and left him alone in the ring.

- While Dolph Ziggler has had a string of losses against the World Heavyweight Champion Sheamus as of late, a source notes that WWE has big things planned for Ziggler this year.

- WWE officials continue to toss around ideas for CM Punk's opponent at WrestleMania 29 in 2013. While Punk still wants the match against WWE Hall of Famer Steve Austin, it may not happen. With WrestleMania 29 several months away, plans can and will change between now and then but WWE wants to have the top matches already in place.

Regarding a Punk vs. Austin match happening at WrestleMania 29, the latest word is that it's "more likely a no than a yes."

Partial source: F4Wonline.com

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/343244006.php
http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/343243294.php

 

[TX85]

On my way to Raw,Talk to you all after the show!!

 

[Metallo]

Bruno was way before my time. I watched a few of his matches which are pretty boring (seriously, even The Ultimate Warrior's matches are more exciting to watch) and I read a few of his interviews where he comes off as an arrogant pr*ck such as claiming he was a better draw than Hogan AND Austin!

One of the reasons for his dislike for the WWE is because of how the business has turned out. What Bruno (and any other jealous, bitter old fart) fails to understand is that things are different now and work in a more efficient way. Sure, Alexander Bell had the first phone, but the one I have now is a million times better. Its called PROGRESS.

I think the main reason though is because the push for his son, David, didn't work out.

Hopefully, Vince will get back at Bruno *****emartino by inducting him after he's dead.

All the wrestlers dying steroid and drug related deaths are more efficient? You could have fooled me. A lot of that is the stuff Bruno dislikes and that was a false "efficiency" that McMahon had a hand in increasing.

He's mad at his son because he felt he bought into that lifestyle.

Bruno's a *****e? What does that make Vince? Vince is a bigger d***bag than Bruno ever will be. The only reason he WANTS Bruno for his so called hall of fame is so he can say he has him. Its got little to do with "the business." The WWE HOF ain't legitimate (even by wrestling standards) and Bruno knows it.

I think Sammartino is bitter (and stubborn) that doesn't mean there isn't some truth in what he says no matter how many people McMahon has programmed.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

On my way to Raw,Talk to you all after the show!!

Keep an eye out for the Brock superfan, and enjoy the show!

 

[Project862006]

people do realize Angelina love was originally in wwe development as Angel Williams from 2004-2007 before she went to tna

maybe they will get her back

 

[Hunter Rider]

The Bruno issue is pretty complex as he was one of the big voices making allegations against WWE during the sex scandal back in the day. He was a draw in New York but nowhere else and never would have been as he was a product of a bygone age by the time wrestling branched out.

The E just has Haitch potentially hogging the spotlight once again in a pointless win over Lesner...cause you just know he's gonna.

Hopefully WWE makes a smart move with the GM because the whole thing with Ace, Cena, and Show was a clusterf***. And Sting showed how tired the heel authority figure thing really is because his take was a breath of fresh air.

Besides The Abyss crap and Dixie AJ nonsense TNA has been solid. about the same as WWE. They both have their pluses and minuses right now. TNA wins the battle as far as making the titles look more important though.

I'm not really disagreeing with you on this one and in truth wasn't so much saying WWE was doing better than TNa right now. I certainly agree that they have done a much better job with their titles.

However WWE's one actual storyline over the WWE title is the best thing going right now in my view, while the potentially excellent Roode/Aries feud isn't getting near enough of a platform because of the crack addict angle and this never ending garbage with Bully and Park...of course neither belt is actually the main focus either show, on one you have an overexposed, enthusiasm sapping attention ****e....and in TNA you have the crack chick.

I can see why Punk would distance himself. Hanging out with those guys could be detrimental. Jeff has expressed issues with WWE for exposing his personal problems though. So Punk's comments after he left is probably what set him off. That makes sense.

I imagine there was a distinct clash of ideals there for sure, and the thing with the comment is Punk would have had no more control of saying it than Orton had in saying Eddie was in hell, or Show had when spitting on the low rider, although I freely admit Punk probably liked saying his line as it's the type of jerky thing he gets a kick out of.

Its funny how some of the best feuds happen between guys who don't like each other. Maybe its some of the natural animosity shining through.

I can see both sides. Punk seems like the type would be disgust by a strung out Hardy. But Hardy DID do more for Punk than Taker or HHH. I also agree that Hardy probably didn't take those comments Punk made after Jeff left too well.

Hopefully if Jeff comes back to WWE they can get along and work together again one day and not let their issues blow the chance for future great matches. Magic happens when those two get in the ring together.

In the meantime I'd enjoy a Punk vs Hardy dvd.

Its also a shame Punk didn't get to work with Edge more.

If Punk didn't thank Hardy then he's in the wrong, and I will be interested in seeing how that feud is handled on the upcoming Punk Blu Ray as I don't see how he can fail to acknowledge what Jeff did for him, plus he is supposedly calling the shots so he can't say WWE stopped him talking about Hardy.

It was interesting to hear him talk about the difference in the locker rooms of WWE and TNA. TNA is much more laid back and everyone is friendly and has a good time, trying to help each other. He says its a total 180 from WWE where you guys are constantly worried about getting fired and the veterans get pissed if you do not bow down to them and make sure you shake their hand.

TNA is more relaxed because there is a lot less stress in general and not nearly as much financial gain on the line. With big money comes high pressure and greater tension.

The last part is an odd thing for a guy raised in the business to say. The code of respecting the vets goes way back to the territory days, hell even when Hogan and Macho were the top 2 stars in the business they paid their respects to Andre at each show.

On my way to Raw,Talk to you all after the show!!

Enjoy yourself Luis.

 

[Hunter Rider]

- While Dolph Ziggler has had a string of losses against the World Heavyweight Champion Sheamus as of late, a source notes that WWE has big things planned for Ziggler this year.

Goooooooooood!

- WWE officials continue to toss around ideas for CM Punk's opponent at WrestleMania 29 in 2013. While Punk still wants the match against WWE Hall of Famer Steve Austin, it may not happen. With WrestleMania 29 several months away, plans can and will change between now and then but WWE wants to have the top matches already in place.

Regarding a Punk vs. Austin match happening at WrestleMania 29, the latest word is that it's "more likely a no than a yes."

Interesting that WWE are already planning out who Punk will face at Mania 9 months in advance, when they do that it usually means you truly are seen as a top guy.

As for the Austin match he wants so much, all I'd say to Punk is to remember the old saying "Be careful what you wish for.....You just might get it".

 

[The Batman]

I wanna buy that Punk DVD solely because of the creative control punk had over it.

I've been waiting for someone to do something like that.

 

[TripleR]

It seems like no matter what they try to do, some people will try to put down the WWE HOF just because Vince isn't super popular. It's got a lot of guys in it who are there simply because they deserve to be, whether they were important to the WWE or not, can bring in money with their inclusion or not, or even whether they still hate Vince or not.

Guys like Inoki, Gagne, The Sheik, Mascaras, all guys who are in because they simply should be in the HOF, it's not like Vince made a ton of money by including them.

The few names that are always brought up as notable exclusions that supposedly make the HOF illegitimate aren't left out because of Vince being spiteful, they just don't want to be there. I don't see how it's all Vince's fault if they can't come to an agreement.

Owen - His widow simply won't allow it, if that wasn't in the way, he'd have been in years ago.

Warrior - Despite him being completely insane and trying to sue WWE a ton of times, Vince actually reached out to him, they just couldn't reach a deal.

Savage - This one hurts me the most, because I'm a HUGE Macho Man mark, but Vince tried. I've seen numerous interviews, including a very recent one with Gene Okerlund, where people say Vince wanted him in the HOF, but they couldn't reach a deal, partly because Randy refused unless his whole family was inducted with him. Now, I'm sure it's even harder because his family might not want to play ball after Randy turned them away himself previously. Vince still recognized he deserved it and tried.

Bruno - Again, Vince is trying, the talent just isn't willing. We can argue over who's right and who's wrong in their little 30 year old argument, I think both are just really stubborn and both are as wrong as they are right, BUT at least Vince realized "hey, he should be in," and extended the invitation.

Vince is a 3rd generation promoter, with wrestling in his blood, and was saved from his trailer park abusive stepfather life by his father introducing him into this business. Say what you will about him, the guy loves it, whether he shows it or not. I really think he takes pride in preserving as much of the history of the business as he can, and is trying to do that with the HOF. Just because personal issues with 2 or 3 talents or their families keep them out, doesn't mean the whole thing is a joke, and if it really depended purely on who is or isn't on Vince's good side, there's definitely some people who'd be nowhere near Vince's HOF.

 

[The Sage]

Interesting that WWE are already planning out who Punk will face at Mania 9 months in advance, when they do that it usually means you truly are seen as a top guy.

As for the Austin match he wants so much, all I'd say to Punk is to remember the old saying "Be careful what you wish for.....You just might get it".

You think Punk's better off with another opponent and that Austin's politics might ruin the experience?

Who would Punk face? We've all thrown around him facing Cena again. Who else?

I'd love to see him get his rematch against Triple H to have the job he did returned to him, but we all know Triple H and jobbing don't go hand in hand, especially these days.

I wanna buy that Punk DVD solely because of the creative control punk had over it.

I've been waiting for someone to do something like that.

I hope he stops the video guys from adding that ridiculous border they've been adding on the left and right side of the screen as they've been doing lately.

 

[Hunter Rider]

You think Punk's better off with another opponent and that Austin's politics might ruin the experience?

Who would Punk face? We've all thrown around him facing Cena again. Who else?

I'd love to see him get his rematch against Triple H to have the job he did returned to him, but we all know Triple H and jobbing don't go hand in hand, especially these days.

Truthfully yes, I like and respect Austin but he rarely did the job for anyone once he became a star and now Rock has won his comeback match I don't see Austin agreeing to lose his.

Triple H is a pretty ideal opponent if it is a title match as Haitch is synonymous with the belt at Mania. I actually wouldn't mind Punk/Taker, I mean we know that the only way Taker is jobbing the streak is to Cena, but Punk being the guy that follows HBK and Triple H in pushing Taker to the limit would be big, and I think Punk's size and talent will aid the more limited Taker in having a good match.

I hope he stops the video guys from adding that ridiculous border they've been adding on the left and right side of the screen as they've been doing lately.

Isn't that only because some of the older matches were shot in a different format?

 

[Metallo]

It seems like no matter what some people will immediately spring into action to defend the WWE HOF. Not surprising.

Its about more than people turning down the HOF. If people do that theres not much McMahon can do about it. The WWE HOF isn't legit because ONE guy chooses who goes in based on his mood that day or if he had a good BM. There is no vote. And certain people get passed over instead of getting a legit look while other people who have no business being in there are in. He wasn't always the best judge of talent, he's biased against some, and he's becoming more out of touch every day.

Warrior sees The HOF for what it really is. Why do you think Vince keeps asking even though Warrior keeps saying no? Vince wants it HIS way. He gets him in and he gets his way more on his terms.

If the Von Erich FAMILY can go into the WWE HOF there is no reason the Poffo family can't. Angelo Poffo did more for the business than Chris Von Erich (God rest his soul) ever did and I'd love to see certain people try to argue otherwise.

Part of that deal was the WCCW tape library to sweeten the pot. Same was true for Verne Gagne. It was more than just putting them in because it was the "right thing."

The HOF isn't just a money thing but an EGO thing for McMahon. I'd think anyone could see that at this point. He sees himself as the keeper (and writer) of the businesses history and the more control he gets over records of that history he can get to tell it however he wants to and put his name on it.

He threw a way a sh**load of money on The Invasion just to make a point. And that whole thing could have gone better even if they didn't have certain WCW talent. In the end he did the same with with ECW's revival. It probably would have made more money if he hadn't tampered with it as much as he did. evolving it is one thing but he was out to make a point by remolding it so much into something he thought would sell better when the opposite happened.

 

[Metallo]

Truthfully yes, I like and respect Austin but he rarely did the job for anyone once he became a star and now Rock has won his comeback match I don't see Austin agreeing to lose his.

Triple H is a pretty ideal opponent if it is a title match as Haitch is synonymous with the belt at Mania. I actually wouldn't mind Punk/Taker, I mean we know that the only way Taker is jobbing the streak is to Cena, but Punk being the guy that follows HBK and Triple H in pushing Taker to the limit would be big, and I think Punk's size and talent will aid the more limited Taker in having a good match.

Agreed. I think between the way WWE seems hellbent on doing business lately and the fact that its Austin...AUSTIN would go over. I think Punk would probably be OK with that too.

Punk NEEDS to beat HHH at Mania at some point. That sh** from last year just cannot stand as is.

Isn't that only because some of the older matches were shot in a different format?

Yeah I think it has something to do with the widescreen HD.