Ziggler gets a Wrestling Thread...It's About Damn Time!!!

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you know, Hunter, your avvy is just SERIOUSLY crackin' me up... :woot:
 
"So Punk...what does Daniel Bryan taste like?" :funny:
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Cena walks around spouting loyality and respect while cheating on his wife with strippers, groupies, divas, and overweight chicks on a dare. He's the last guy to talk about Rock being a phony. Cena shoulda just left it at "I love wrestling more than the rock does."

And Punk can act like a diva *****e as well...so why is he whining when someone else does it? Punk clearly had a problem with Rock in 2011...especially since he called him an asskisser in his infamous "pipebomb" promo when he didnt even need to bring him up...he also mentioned Hogan as well. I've seen that segment of the Austin DVD and I dont agree that Punk dosent have a problem with Hogan.

Is it ok to act like jerk to employees and fans because unlike the other guy you're upfront about it? A Jerk is a jerk, whether or not he's open about it. So why is a jerk going on interviews talking about how much of a jerk another guy is? Honestly, deep down, even if Rock had his character defects, Cena/Punk/Orton taking potshots was rooted in ego. You can disagree with all this, but thats how I see it.

Jerk can smell its own kind? Punk being a jerk is nothing new. Never said it was ok. Doesn't make the guys he was talking about NOT phonies.

Last time I checked Rock aint with HIS ex wife now either. Sh** happens.
 
Be it symbolic or genetic, this is not the Wrestling Thread. :mad:
 
Cena walks around spouting loyality and respect while cheating on his wife with strippers, groupies, divas, and overweight chicks on a dare. He's the last guy to talk about Rock being a phony. Cena shoulda just left it at "I love wrestling more than the rock does."

Now we are getting into murky waters that hasn't got anything concrete about it. Accusations have been made but at this point nothing has been proved. For instance the fat chick stuff was from a radio interview Cena gave to Stern and was before he was married.

And Punk can act like a diva *****e as well...so why is he whining when someone else does it? Punk clearly had a problem with Rock in 2011...especially since he called him an asskisser in his infamous "pipebomb" promo when he didnt even need to bring him up...he also mentioned Hogan as well. I've seen that segment of the Austin DVD and I dont agree that Punk dosent have a problem with Hogan.

The promo was designed to be explosive, had he just took shots at Cena and Orton for instance there'd be no real heat about it. He trashed the McMahon's, Hogan, Triple H and Rock and it came off much more legit. As for you thinking he has issues with Hogan from that short story, it may be true, but like Triple H just about everyone hates Hogan because they have held back so many other guys and abused their power.

Is it ok to act like jerk to employees and fans because unlike the other guy you're upfront about it? A Jerk is a jerk, whether or not he's open about it. So why is a jerk going on interviews talking about how much of a jerk another guy is? Honestly, deep down, even if Rock had his character defects, Cena/Punk/Orton taking potshots was rooted in ego. You can disagree with all this, but thats how I see it.

I never said it was alright, I said it's not the same as being a hypocrite because you are honest in who you are, a hypocrite presents one image and then acts the reverse. I don't see any ego involved because I think for Cena and Punk all they want to be is wrestlers, so they aren't jealous because Rock has made a bunch of mainly awful b movies.
 
Jerk can smell its own kind? Punk being a jerk is nothing new. Never said it was ok. Doesn't make the guys he was talking about NOT phonies.

Last time I checked Rock aint with HIS ex wife now either. Sh** happens.

Like I said to Hunter, Rock being a phony doesnt concern me. I dont have some bias against the Rock, so thats not my focus here. I just find it a bit odd that jerks are talking about other people being jerks, whether its new info or not does not matter.

And did Rock cheat on his wife too while promoting "hustle, loyalty, and respect"? Because thats the only way I can see his ex wife being relevant here. Honestly, it seems like you guys wanna down the Rock for any reason while brushing off anything Punk does because you already know about it or something like that, so I'll just end my part here and agree to disagree.
 
Wow so Rybacks taking on actual (kinda) members of the roster now.
 
Reks and Hawkins look like a real tag-team!

Rybak finally taking on real jobbers.
 
I don't blame any guy who does what they have to in order to succeed aside from HHH who made a b*tch move by marrying Stephanie partly to maintain his spot.

Bret Hart - He could've been a bigger star had Hogan jobbed to him, but he made the most out what was given to him.

Shane Douglas - Didn't get a fair shake in WWE, went to ECW and did well as The original Franchise.

Jeff Jarrett - Was never given a chance, went to WCW and rightfully won the WCW Championship and was a better champion than Sid, Nash, and Steiner. Founded an alternative wrestling product to watch after giving Vince McMahon a taste of his own medicine when it comes to screwing people.

Chris Jericho - He could've been a bigger star had Austin or HHH jobbed clean to him, but he was still able to build a respectable career.

Rey Mysterio -

Eddie Guerrero - After dealing with politics in WCW and personal problems, he worked to become WWE Champion and one of the all-time greats.

Christian - Never got the chance to shine, went to TNA and won their world title, came back and won the World Heavyweight Title even if Vince copped out on a proper reign.

Ken Kennedy - He could've been a top player, but just had bad luck for whatever reason then got fired because of Randy Orton. Went to TNA and won their world title.

The Miz - Put up with a lot of sh** following Tough Enough and worked hard to move up. Could've been a bigger star if he had beaten Cena clean at Wrestlemania 27, but we'll see what happens with him after he's done playing marine.

John Cena - Hard worker since the get go. Yes, he would've benefitted from beating Rock, but it will be made up in the eventual rematch.

CM Punk - Pretty much has been screwed over time and time again since day one. Is on the crisp of megastardom if he can beat Cena and/or Helmsley clean. Austin losing to him would be the quintessential put over.

Can we get an impartial view on this issue thats not...y'know...on a JARRETT produced dvd?

Two sides to every story. I'm pretty sure Austin covered the paycheck story on his Bottom Line documentary.

@Blackheart, cheers, I'll check that out man. :up:

No problem. As much as I tend to disagree with you, Metallo, and Sage, I do try to keep these matters civil. :oldrazz:
 
wwe tells us sheamus can't compete and they leave him in the promo pick.
 
Like I said to Hunter, Rock being a phony doesnt concern me. I dont have some bias against the Rock, so thats not my focus here. I just find it a bit odd that jerks are talking about other people being jerks, whether its new info or not does not matter.

And did Rock cheat on his wife too? Because thats the only way I can see his ex wife being relevant here. Honestly, it seems like you guys wanna down the Rock for any reason while brushing off anything Punk does because you already know about it or something like that, so I'll just end my part here and agree to disagree.

Rocks not exactly the big happy family man right now either. And you don't know for sure WHAT Cena has done unless you saw it with your own damn eyes. Just like you claim for The Rock.

All you got is some dirtsheet reports and the word of guys who admitted they got some of their sh** wrong and looked like a f***in fool in doing so.

"Down the Rock?" No I'm just not giving him a free pass. I don't give anyone a free pass. Seems like you DO have a bias in favor of the Rock since you're defending him so hard while pointing out others flaws.

Just because Punk is a jerk doesn't mean the people he's called that aren't. Punk never claimed he wasn't an a**hole so your point is moot.
 
I forgot Cena was going to be on tonight.
 
I wonder if we get a Cena/Punk showdown in the middle of this.
 
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