Zombies!

[Majik1387]

Well the universal law that says no one caught in a fantastical situation can have any knowledge of the threat in said situation; starting to fade but c'mon really

Yeah

Mislabled films; the creatures in the 28 series while technically in the Zombie genre are not Zombies

They are zombies. It's not mislabled.

Fully automatic weapons, shotguns, and rifles; lots of noise and if your far enough to use them you should be running away, that's many wasted bullets (except for in those awful cases when u must go through the Zombie hoard)

I know, I know I've literally said out loud to some movies "Are you f**king kidding me?!"

Complete lack of attempts to find protective clothing; at least put on a leather jacket some boots and some gloves...

Yeah, I know they need sex appeal for some reason, but put it in where there's no zombies.

there are many more but I run dangerously close to steeping on my own toes and putting out some of the tricks I intend to spring with my film...

Hack.


lol jk

I'll give you one more The name of the genre; George R the founder of the Genre never once called them Zombies in the first few films that caught on as a result of the European sequels he called them Ghouls and while still not mythologically accurate (don't think there is a real term for shambling mindless undead ,vengeful, angry, or evil undead ...plenty but not shambling mindless) It is what the founder of the Genre dubbed them so...

Yeah, but he inspired the zombie genre

 

[Kritish]

The AR-15 on top is the best weapon for zombies, nuff said.

 

[T'Jai]

They are zombies. It's not mislabled.

Dictionary.com
=the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose.
Wiki
=A zombie is an animated human body devoid of a soul. In contemporary versions these are generally reanimated or undead corpses, which were traditionally called "ghouls." Stories of zombies originated in the Afro-Caribbean spiritual belief system of Vodoun Voodoo.

Other more macabre versions of zombies have become a staple of modern horror fiction, where they are brought back from the dead by supernatural or scientific means, and eat the flesh of the living.

Brittannica
=In Vodou, a dead person who is revived after burial and compelled to do the bidding of the reviver, including criminal acts and heavy manual labour.

all are undead
Rage victims are still alive and thereby not Zombies=mislabeled

 

[Kritish]

It doesn't matter dude, 28 days later was an awesome film. Take a chill pill (or some Midol).

 

[Abaddon]

there are stories of farms in Haiti where zombies do hard labor.

 

[T'Jai]

It doesn't matter dude, 28 days later was an awesome film. Take a chill pill (or some Midol).

not excited just backing up a claim with the easily available and researchable resources of the web

 

[Kritish]

not excited just backing up a claim with the easily available and researchable resources of the web

What shall we call rage victims? "Humans that have been infected with a virus that makes them extremely pissed off"?

 

[T'Jai]

What shall we call rage victims? "Humans that have been infected with a virus that makes them extremely pissed off"?

how bout "rage victims"...

 

[Kritish]

how bout "rage victims"...

I've always called them the infected just like in the film, but most of the people who go to see those films aren't die hard zombie fanatics like I am.
It's not like the film openly called them zombies, get over yourself.

 

[T'Jai]

I've always called them the infected just like in the film, but most of the people who go to see those films aren't die hard zombie fanatics like I am.
It's not like the film openly called them zombies, get over yourself.

K so if you had alternate name why are you bothering me about 1?

I'm not responding to the film, I'm responding to a statement made after a query by our good friend Majik1387

perhaps a little research would have shown you that there is nothing for me to get over...

 

[Majik1387]

With how fast the infected change in the 28 Days/Weeks Later movies, I can agree they're not the sterotypical zombie, but they are zombies.

 

[T'Jai]

With how fast the infected change in the 28 Days/Weeks Later movies, I can agree they're not the sterotypical zombie, but they are zombies.

uh, based on what?

 

[Majik1387]

Based on zombie-lore

 

[T'Jai]

Based on zombie-lore

which lore would this be?
I'm honestly curious about your sources...

cause mine say they're undead (strike 1)

crave flesh (strike 2)

and up until the movie in question slow moving (strike 3)

so help me out here??

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

More or less because they're pretty much un self preserving, mono track minded beings hunting down uninfected humans.


By all means, these "zombies" of the Romero films aren't zombies either. Ghouls would be the best thing to call them.

 

[Majik1387]

which lore would this be?
I'm honestly curious about your sources...

cause mine say they're undead (strike 1)

crave flesh (strike 2)

and up until the movie in question slow moving (strike 3)

so help me out here??

Zombie-lore throughout more than just the movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies
There are many types of zombies.

 

[Kritish]

which lore would this be?
I'm honestly curious about your sources...

cause mine say they're undead (strike 1)

crave flesh (strike 2)

and up until the movie in question slow moving (strike 3)

so help me out here??

We're tried of arguing, we're just gonna let Majik shove an undead chipmunk up your ass now. t:

 

[T'Jai]

We're tried of arguing, we're just gonna let Majik shove an undead chipmunk up your ass now. t:

did that already myself what it was research for my script

 

[T'Jai]

More or less because they're pretty much un self preserving, mono track minded beings hunting down uninfected humans.


By all means, these "zombies" of the Romero films aren't zombies either. Ghouls would be the best thing to call them.

but that's not a zombie taking it back to the well spring they only hunted if commanded to and the condition can't be transmitted by a bite...

as for the rest see post 474 of this thread by yours truly (bottom of the last page)

Zombie-lore throughout more than just the movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies
There are many types of zombies.

ok nothing in that article supports your claim... it actually backs mine that they don't qualify...

 

[Reptile]

I don't consider the infected in the 28 series to be zombies

 

[T'Jai]

yeah, the first line of the Wiki article we both quoted

This article is about the undead.

 

[Majik1387]

yeah, the first line of the Wiki article we both quoted

From Dictionary.com

Undead:
adjective 1.no longer alive but animated by a supernatural force, as a vampire or zombie. –noun 2.(used with a plural verb

) undead beings collectively (usually prec. by the).
adj. No longer living but supernaturally animated, as a zombie.


Now I'm not trying to say that the 28D/WL movies are supernatural, but the zombies took shots in places where the living would die from, yet they kept moving.

 

[T'Jai]

From Dictionary.com

Undead:
adjective 1.no longer alive but animated by a supernatural force, as a vampire or zombie. –noun 2.(used with a plural verb

) undead beings collectively (usually prec. by the).
adj. No longer living but supernaturally animated, as a zombie.


Now I'm not trying to say that the 28D/WL movies are supernatural, but the zombies took shots in places where the living would die from, yet they kept moving.

I honestly don't recall any infected walking away from what would be fatal shots. And the film makers said (and I'll dig up a quote if you need one) that they are alive, it was also stated in the movie several times. Kinda voids out your point there. Oh and rage is a virus a genetically designed bio-weapon not a supernatural force... so why are those statements in bold... especially if your not trying to say that??

 

[Majik1387]

I honestly don't recall any infected walking away from what would be fatal shots. And the film makers said (and I'll dig up a quote if you need one) that they are alive, it was also stated in the movie several times. Kinda voids out your point there. Oh and rage is a virus a genetically designed bio-weapon not a supernatural force...

Would you consider the Resident Evil zombies zombies?

 

[T'Jai]

Would you consider the Resident Evil zombies zombies?

Yep! causes they died, they move slow, and head shots are damn near the only way to kill them... so despite their non mystical origin they follow the "zombie" (I hate that word they're ghouls) rules. long as it's undead, craves flesh and requires a head shot to kill it technically classifies (in my book)