12 killed in Colorado shooting at Dark Knight Rises premiere - Part 2

[ThePhantasm]

An apparent copycat has been arrested. Some disturbed guy calling himself "a joker" and armed with assault rifles and handguns:

Authorities have arrested a Maryland man they say referred to himself as "a joker" and threatened to carry out a mass shooting at his workplace, Fox News has learned.

Police arrested 28-year-old Neil Prescott of Crofton, Md., after the man allegedly called his employer and threatened to "shoot the place up."

Fox affiliate WTTG, citing police sources, reports that Prescott called himself "a joker" before his arrest Thursday. Authorities say they believe the threat could have been carried out as a copycat of the shooting massacre one week ago in Aurora, Colo., in which 12 people were killed during a midnight viewing of the new Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises."

 

[The Squirrel]

Man with gun stops stabbing spree

Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Nave, go see the movie. Trust me you will be immersed within the first 5-10mins.

I know I will

Are you talking about the victims who were shot? Because I think there would be some kind of negative reaction with them regarding Batman period, regardless of the media. I mean I know if I was attempted to be gunned down in a movie theater, the particular movie in question would probably be tainted, regardless of the media. In my own way (to a very much lesser extent), there are some video games that I am a very big fan of, that have something of a taint to me because I played them during some very bad points in my life, so I sometimes associate the game with that bad moment. I still play the games, I don't hate them, but there are times when playing them that I can be reminded of the bad things that I associate with them. It's how human minds often work.

Exactly. I can't imagine people not being reminded of the tragedy when they were there that night. But again, as often it is with tragedies and even "bad moments" the best way to overcome them is to confront those fears and go watch it anyway. You shouldn't let a bad moment define your experiences, especially when you have so much love for them to begin with. I remember that 16-year-old on the news who felt compelled to go back to "finish the movie" because so many others couldn't. He felt like he owed it to the others. He said it was "taking the knight back."

Even for those games that have that negative feelings with you, you'd want to just go past them. You owe it to yourself, I believe, to be able to overcome those negative moments. That's one of the reasons why I love Inception so much, Cobb's entire character arc was about changing those moments in the past. You don't have to change the past but you can always redefine them. I think catharsis works like that.

 

[craigdbfan]

Hans Zimmer Writes Song in Dedication to Aurora Victims

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93026

 

[bullets]

They also shouldn't go out of their way to make connections either. That much is very irresponsible. But calling it "The Dark Knight Massacre" isn't irresponsible, it is an identifier of what happened.

It's difficult to mention the shooting without referring to the movie. They can't hide that fact but calling it The Dark Knight massacre is a disservice. It's implying that the shooting was directly related to the film. It's not the big issue or the one that deserves the most focus but I see why people are fighting it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/2...oting-plot-in-maryland-seize-arsenal-weapons/

Here we go with the copy cats.

At least they were able to stop him.

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Hans Zimmer Writes Song in Dedication to Aurora Victims

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=93026

Aw. That's nice.

 

[Anita18]

Exactly. I can't imagine people not being reminded of the tragedy when they were there that night. But again, as often it is with tragedies and even "bad moments" the best way to overcome them is to confront those fears and go watch it anyway. You shouldn't let a bad moment define your experiences, especially when you have so much love for them to begin with. I remember that 16-year-old on the news who felt compelled to go back to "finish the movie" because so many others couldn't. He felt like he owed it to the others. He said it was "taking the knight back."

Even for those games that have that negative feelings with you, you'd want to just go past them. You owe it to yourself, I believe, to be able to overcome those negative moments. That's one of the reasons why I love Inception so much, Cobb's entire character arc was about changing those moments in the past. You don't have to change the past but you can always redefine them. I think catharsis works like that.

You'll like TDKR.

 

[Matt]

Dane Cook is using the Colorado shooting tragedy as material for his standup act.

Last night, Cook took the stage at the Laugh Factory on Sunset Blvd. and began to talk about "Dark Knight Rises."

In footage, obtained by DailyCaller.com, Cook can be heard saying ...

"So I heard that the guy came into the theater about 25 minutes into the movie ... And I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie, but the movie is pretty much a piece of crap ... yeah, spoiler alert.”

Cook continued ... “I know that if none of that would have happened, pretty sure that somebody in that theater, about 25 minutes in, realizing it was a piece of crap, was probably like ‘ugh f***ing shoot me.’”

TMZ has the audio too.

Stay classy Dane Cook.

 

[Sawyer]

Dane Cook is in no position to call anything crap.

But I do agree that someone should shoot him.

 

[Matt]

It's difficult to mention the shooting without referring to the movie. They can't hide that fact but calling it The Dark Knight massacre is a disservice. It's implying that the shooting was directly related to the film. It's not the big issue or the one that deserves the most focus but I see why people are fighting it.




At least they were able to stop him.

You know, I actually like that it is being called the TDKR massacre or the Batman shooting. Because in the end, it has to be called something and I'd prefer the TDKR massacre to the Aurora massacre. I'd rather see a movie have its legacy tied to it, than an entire town where really people live. If you say Columbine Colorado, what is the first thing that comes to mind? Aurora deserves better than that. The town deserves a chance to move on. If this were the Aurora massacre, it would never have that chance.

 

[Anita18]

You know, I actually like that it is being called the TDKR massacre or the Batman shooting. Because in the end, it has to be called something and I'd prefer the TDKR massacre to the Aurora massacre. I'd rather see a movie have its legacy tied to it, than an entire town where really people live. If you say Columbine Colorado, what is the first thing that comes to mind? Aurora deserves better than that. The town deserves a chance to move on. If this were the Aurora massacre, it would never have that chance.

The thing is, there's no precedence for that though.

 

[Matt]

For what? A town to be tied to the tragedy (to which I'd argue Columbine is a pretty big precedent) or for a movie to be tied to it?

 

[Kelly]

The thing is, there's no precedence for that though.

Are you kidding? Everyone one of these mass murders have a title, because its a movie does that make it worse than being tied to the name of the town? Dallas still holds the stigma of the Kennedy assassination...every time Dallas has come up for the Olympics, guess what gets brought up....that's right something that happened almost 50 years ago.

 

[Anita18]

For what? A town to be tied to the tragedy (to which I'd argue Columbine is a pretty big precedent) or for a movie to be tied to it?

A movie, of course.

At this point it mostly seems like the media are picking on WB/DC, or that mentioning Batman would get them more ratings. I don't get the idea at all that they're doing it to protect the town.

 

[ThePhantasm]

This just in: Holmes was indeed a patient of the school psychiatrist that he sent the package to. CNN has the details.

 

[Paroxysm]

Yeah, he's insane.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I don't believe in the death penalty. Prison for life in solitary confinement sounds fitting to me.

 

[Duke]

Stay classy Dane Cook.

Dane Cook is in no position to call anything crap.

But I do agree that someone should shoot him.

I never cared for Dane Cook & this pretty much makes me despise him more.

 

[Matt]

A movie, of course.

At this point it mostly seems like the media are picking on WB/DC, or that mentioning Batman would get them more ratings. I don't get the idea at all that they're doing it to protect the town.

Oh, I'm not saying that they're doing it to protect the town. I am just saying that such would be an unintended benefit of it being called the "Batman massacre," rather than the "Aurora massacre." It has to be called something. I'd just prefer Batman be tied to it than the entire town of Aurora.

 

[Kelly]

Agreed.....no, they are not calling it the "Dark Knight Massacre" to protect the town....but if it allows Aurora to move on...that is fine with me.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It's difficult to mention the shooting without referring to the movie. They can't hide that fact but calling it The Dark Knight massacre is a disservice. It's implying that the shooting was directly related to the film. It's not the big issue or the one that deserves the most focus but I see why people are fighting it.

I just don't see what the issue is. People were killed during The Dark Knight Rises, calling it the "Batman Massacre" or "The Dark Knight Massacre" is not a disservice. It wasn't even just a random screening, it was the midnight premiere. I mean, like it or not, this movie is attached to this, and always will be. It's not a disservice. The target was selected because it was the Dark Knight Rises premiere. It wasn't just some people randomly watching the movie on Blu Ray in their house, when someone busted down their door and started firing. And it really sounds like that's what people here are trying to make it out to be - just some random occurrence that just happened while The Dark Knight Rises was playing.

And I still don't see where this negative image associated with this film is coming from. Granted, it's not even a percentage of the overall population, but if trends are anything to go by, my Facebook wall has been filled with nothing but people either 1.) talking about how amazing The Dark Knight Rises was or 2.) people talking about how excited they are to go and see it.

I've seen nothing about the shooting, except the day after it happened, and one person sending prayers via Facebook to her friend that was one of the victims shot in the theater that night. I've seen one person say they weren't going to go see it in relation to this, and that was more because of reports of copycats, and how numerous screenings of this movie around the country have had incidents.

I don't see the disservice being done. People were shot during the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises, so it is called The Dark Knight Massacre. It is an accurate statement, not a disservice designed to taint the movie. The movie will always have a level of taint because of this incident, not because of the media.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Oh, I'm not saying that they're doing it to protect the town. I am just saying that such would be an unintended benefit of it being called the "Batman massacre," rather than the "Aurora massacre." It has to be called something. I'd just prefer Batman be tied to it than the entire town of Aurora.

Though i agree with you, i'm affraid that when all is said and done, It's the twon Aurora itself that's gonna be tied forever with this horrible incident.

I'm afraid that, a few years from now, whenever there's something newsworthy about the town, the reporter is going to start by saying:'Aurora..the town where a few years ago etc etc'

This won't happen with Batman. By the time the new Bats movie comes out, i'm betting that there will be almost no mention of the Aurora tragedywhen reporting the movie, but instead comments about Nolan's trilogy blablabla.

 

[bullets]

You know, I actually like that it is being called the TDKR massacre or the Batman shooting. Because in the end, it has to be called something and I'd prefer the TDKR massacre to the Aurora massacre. I'd rather see a movie have its legacy tied to it, than an entire town where really people live. If you say Columbine Colorado, what is the first thing that comes to mind? Aurora deserves better than that. The town deserves a chance to move on. If this were the Aurora massacre, it would never have that chance.

That's a good point. Lately I've been seen it referred to as "Colorado Shooting". I'm not trying to dwell on it but who knows what will stick.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

The movie will always have a level of taint because of this incident, not because of the media.

TDKR...yes. But not the batman character itself. I don't think that upcoming Batman movies will be affected.

 

[bullets]

I just don't see what the issue is. People were killed during The Dark Knight Rises, calling it the "Batman Massacre" or "The Dark Knight Massacre" is not a disservice. It wasn't even just a random screening, it was the midnight premiere. I mean, like it or not, this movie is attached to this, and always will be. It's not a disservice. The target was selected because it was the Dark Knight Rises premiere. It wasn't just some people randomly watching the movie on Blu Ray in their house, when someone busted down their door and started firing. And it really sounds like that's what people here are trying to make it out to be - just some random occurrence that just happened while The Dark Knight Rises was playing.

And I still don't see where this negative image associated with this film is coming from. Granted, it's not even a percentage of the overall population, but if trends are anything to go by, my Facebook wall has been filled with nothing but people either 1.) talking about how amazing The Dark Knight Rises was or 2.) people talking about how excited they are to go and see it.

I've seen nothing about the shooting, except the day after it happened, and one person sending prayers via Facebook to her friend that was one of the victims shot in the theater that night. I've seen one person say they weren't going to go see it in relation to this, and that was more because of reports of copycats, and how numerous screenings of this movie around the country have had incidents.

I don't see the disservice being done. People were shot during the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises, so it is called The Dark Knight Massacre. It is an accurate statement, not a disservice designed to taint the movie. The movie will always have a level of taint because of this incident, not because of the media.

The debate on violence in cinema was heavy the last few days but seems to have subsided. Most people have already moved on with their lives. There's still a bit of fear surrounding the Dark Knight screenings but that won't stop most people from going. They could of called it "the midnight movie massacre" but I'm sure Batman shooting was probably simpler at the time. Some outlets were trying to push an agenda but the consensus seems to be "The Dark Knight film was inspiration but not the cause".

So I'm not trying to make a big issue of it. It just sucks that people were killed and some traumatized for life in what should of been a great time at the cinema . However I still see the media trying to push connections that may or may not relate to the shooter.