14 Year Old Girl Stabbed Her Little Sister 39 Times For Being Ungrateful

[Breogan]

The sooner Armageddon comes the better.

Please Michael Bay already apologized for the first one, don't encourage him to make a sequel.

Oh you meant a "real" one

 

[webhead9707]

This is why we keep the knives and pencils in a locked drawer...

 

[Teelie]

Something terrible happens. Typical internet response:

"We need to end the world. Now!"

 

[Marvolo]

People need to stop making ****ing excuses for others. What the girl did was not normal behaviour but that doesn't mean she's mentally ill or whatever; what she did was a premeditated act of evil and she should be punished and licked away for her heinous crime. God, this whole world has gone to the dogs. The sooner Armageddon comes the better.

Yes. Lets blame evil and kill her quickly before the evil that has consumed her soul corrupts us all...orrrrr we could slow down and take the time to let the medical and justice systems work to find out what the real problem was and act like some level headed adults before further harm is done to the family.

Regarding your armageddon comment:

"For thousands of years old men have been *****ing about the state of the world. Old men die and the world spins on."

 

[Ant-manic]

why was she making dinner all week?

 

[Teelie]

Both parents were working?

 

[Feenix]

You know, stabbing someone 39 times would be physically exhausting.

This girl wasn't just angry, she was Hulk raging. I can't see someone with that much anger in them being "cured" of it.

Lock her up, throw away the key, and use her brain for experiments once she's dead.

 

[redhawk23]

(a) I'd wait until she's an adult.

(b) Do you eat meat? If so, I assume you slaughter out all your own pigs, chickens, cows and lambs, right? Or do you just ask others to do it for you? That question is about as logical as your question was.

I'd have no personal moral issue with doing so. Would you yourself willingly put a person to death?

 

[redhawk23]

The irony of so many people with an astounding lack of empathy throwing around the term "sociopath" is palpable.

"Prisons are expensive so lets kill them and be done with it."

Or you know we could just stop wasting money imprisoning non-violent offenders.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I'd have no personal moral issue with doing so. Would you yourself willingly put a person to death?

Easy to say. But I bet you don't. And I know you won't.

The irony of so many people with an astounding lack of empathy throwing around the term "sociopath" is palpable.

Empathy for who?! A 14 year old killer? You're damn right I have no empathy for her. Should I?

"Prisons are expensive so lets kill them and be done with it."

Or you know we could just stop wasting money imprisoning non-violent offenders.

I agree we shouldn't jail those who engage in victimless crimes (such as those who get busted with weed), but what covers non-violent crime? So people who destroy others' lives in non-violent ways like Bernie Madoff shouldn't go to jail? What about people who are stopped before their crimes lead to violence? Like multiple DUIs? Should they be sent to jail or can they continue with their non-violent crimes until they eventually become violent? Boy, I'm glad you're not a judge.

 

[Ant-manic]

Both parents were working?

thanks Obama!

 

[Xeno]

Something terrible happens. Typical internet response:

"We need to end the world. Now!"

The most typical response:

"Kill them! Kill them now!"

Often accompanied by weird fantasies of doing the killing themselves (even if that means having to wait a few years for a child to become old enough to slaughter).

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

The most typical response:

"Kill them! Kill them now!"

Often accompanied by weird fantasies of doing the killing themselves (even if that means having to wait a few years for a child to become old enough to slaughter).

What were the "weird fantasies"? No one in this thread has expressed any such fantasy. Stop making up crap to bolster your argument.

 

[Teelie]

thanks Obama!

I'd blame Bush actually but it extends further back than that. 2 working parents has been a staple of the United States for a few generations now.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Even if scientists were able to cure her, she'd have to live with the guilt of what she did. Which would probably lead to suicide at best.

Unless you somehow suppressed the guilt associated with the deed. In which case I'd have to ask what kind of mad science you're up to.

I'm all for neurological research. Maybe someday we can clone brain cells, inject them into young patients that exhibit strong sociopath tendencies. But it's going to be a long time before we can approach that in a non-ludicrous way.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

My stance: lock her away for life in solitary. Let her watch movies, play video games, interact with the food-bearing guards. And yes, study her.

But it's futile to hope she'll ever be cured. Maybe someday to someone else decades from now, but she's only a stepping stone to that.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I'd blame Bush actually but it extends further back than that. 2 working parents has been a staple of the United States for a few generations now.

I believe the man was being facetious.

 

[redhawk23]

Empathy for who?! A 14 year old killer? You're damn right I have no empathy for her. Should I?


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"This girl is ill, lets kill her because keeping her in jail would be too expensive!" Is indeed a lack of empathy.

As for the question of financial crimes and such it depends on what you consider violence, which goes beyond just physical attacks. But really, does it do anyone any good for Bernie Madhoff to be in a jail cell? Does that get people their money back? Does it protect people anymore than barring him from financial activity would?

 

[redhawk23]

Easy to say. But I bet you don't. And I know you won't.

I was talking about the whole 'slaughtering your meat thing." Which, yeah if I had to I would.

Slaughtering pigs raised for that purpose is not at all comparable to executing another person as a punitive measure.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I was talking about the whole 'slaughtering your meat thing." Which, yeah if I had to I would.

And I think you wouldn't because you haven't. Talk is cheap.

Slaughtering pigs raised for that purpose is not at all comparable to executing another person as punitive measure.

I guess you have a lack of empathy for the pigs.

You know what? Screw it. I value the lives of farm-animals more than I value the life of a sociopath who killed her sister in cold blood.

"This girl is ill, lets kill her because keeping her in jail would be too expensive!" Is indeed a lack of empathy.

Right. We've already been over this. I don't have empathy for her. Do you have empathy for Adolf Hitler? Jeffrey Dahmer? Osama Bin Laden? Not having empathy for monsters, is not the same as not having empathy for anyone.

As for the question of financial crimes and such it depends on what you consider violence, which goes beyond just physical attacks. But really, does it do anyone any good for Bernie Madhoff to be in a jail cell? Does that get people their money back? Does it protect people anymore than barring him from financial activity would?

Wait, let me get this straight.... So you think there should be no incarceration or serious repercussions for screwing people out of millions of dollars and financially and emotionally destroying lives? Wow. Not only is justice for the victims denied (and make no mistake, they are victims), but a thousand Bernie Madhoffs would pop up in the absence of serious repercussions. I can't believe you can criticize me for my views, and yet think something like that is okay.

 

[redhawk23]

Does incarcerating Bernie Madhoff really constitute justice? Is incarceration really the only form of "serious repercussion"? Does incarcerating Bernie Madhoff or Jordan Belfort stop people from doing what they do?

Is hunting particularly different than killing a pig?

Were Hitler and Bin Laden's actions the result of mental illness?

And on that note, Godwins Law invoked. This has run its course.

Details of this case will come forth. Let's just see what the circumstances were before throwing around Hitler comparisons.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

And on that note, Godwins Law invoked. This has run its course.

Details of this case will come forth. Let's just see what the circumstances were before throwing around Hitler comparisons.

Um...but you were the one to do that.

 

[redhawk23]

The only time I brought up Hitler or the Nazis was responding to JJ when he asked me if I had empathy for Hitler. I didn't quote it because its the post directly above mine.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Does incarcerating Bernie Madhoff really constitute justice?

Yes.

Is incarceration really the only form of "serious repercussion"?

No, but it's one of the more effective ones.

Does incarcerating Bernie Madhoff or Jordan Belfort stop people from doing what they do?

Yes.

Is hunting particularly different than killing a pig?

I don't even know where you're going with that one.

Were Hitler and Bin Laden's actions the result of mental illness?

You know "mental illness" is a vague umbrella term that could be used to describe a hundred different things wrong with someone, right? They could have been sociopaths, I don't know. Certainly they were evil men. Do you feel empathy for them?

And on that note, Godwins Law invoked. This has run its course.

You don't even know what Godwins law is. It's not when Hitler's name is mentioned. It's when a poster or policy the poster likes is compared to Hitler or nazism in general. That was never done in this thread. Hitler was used as an example as someone you wouldn't feel empathy for. But you are right in that this has run its course.

Details of this case will come forth. Let's just see what the circumstances were before throwing around Hitler comparisons.

What are you even talking about? I wasn't comparing anyone to Hitler. I just used him, among others, as an example of someone any normal person wouldn't feel empathy for.

I'm done. The facepalm is just too much here. I leave debates when the other person starts deliberately misrepresenting my points or posts.

 

[redhawk23]

If she is ruled to be mentally ill, but that illness is something either than "sociopathy" which is a pretty specific thing, would that make any difference?

Many forms of mental illness can cause people to be dangerous. Should we just kill them all?