2009 NFL Thread

[Cunning Stunts]

Taylor has gone back home good for him, I guess he did not want to win a superbowl

What made you think he'd win one by signing with Washington again?

 

[NewYorkSpider]

What made you think he'd win one by signing with Washington again?

He's talking about if Taylor had signed with New England.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Well, it's official. The NFL will now allow Chad Ochocinco whatever to use "OCHOCINCO" on his nameplate instead of "JOHNSON".

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8105395c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

 

[StorminNorman]

I really want Chad 85 to have a great year. I think he is one of the most entertaining characters in the game - he just has to back up the shenanigans with production.

 

[Excel]

With Palmer back Im sure hell be fine in terms of yardage, though hes never been a real touchdown machine.

 

[StorminNorman]

I think the Bengals could be the Miami of 2009. The team that no one takes seriously in the pre-season who has a surprisingly successful season, making the playoffs.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Cinncy had a great draft. I can see them challenging for a wild card spot.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Actually, I can see the Lions winning 9 games, maybe 10 if the can split with Minnesota. They won't make the playoffs however.

 

[StorminNorman]

If the Lions win 10 games, they will make the playoffs.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I don't think so... I see two out of the East and South, mainly New York & Philly, ATL & the Saints, than Minnesota & Arizona to round out the remaining position. None of those teams will lose more than 6 games... which means Detroit will probably lose the tie-breaker. Their best hope is that New Orleans faulters. Than, dare I say it, there is always the Cowboys Factor.

 

[Darthphere]

If the Lions win 10 games, look the lions will not win 10 games. They've won 1 game in 2 seasons.

 

[Immortalfire]

Well, it's official. The NFL will now allow Chad Ochocinco whatever to use "OCHOCINCO" on his nameplate instead of "JOHNSON".

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8105395c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

What an ass.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

If the Lions win 10 games, look the lions will not win 10 games. They've won 1 game in 2 seasons.

The Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5. The 09' Lions are completely different from the 08' Lions. Lots of improvements.

 

[Wiseman]

If the Lions win 10 games, look the lions will not win 10 games. They've won 1 game in 2 seasons.

I don't know if it's just me but don't you always just think of the Lions as a loser team, almost like the Clippers in the NBA. Like I know Arizona has almost always sucked too but when I think of the worst team in the NFL, I've always thought of the Lions

 

[Darthphere]

The Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5. The 09' Lions are completely different from the 08' Lions. Lots of improvements.

Yeah and the season before that? The Dolphins could've easily been 6-10 that season with all the close games they lost. It's not comparable at all.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Yeah and the season before that? The Dolphins could've easily been 6-10 that season with all the close games they lost. It's not comparable at all.

Detroit lost a lot of close games last season. They even played competitive against Carolina and Indianapolis. Both playoff teams.

 

[Excel]

The Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5. The 09' Lions are completely different from the 08' Lions. Lots of improvements.

*ahem*

As one of the few-perhaps evwen the only one-ever-who said the Dolphins would be in the playoffs prior to the start of the season...let me say...the Lions are NOT in the same ship the Phins were; theirs is far worse.

1st of all the obvious, the Lions didnt win any games in 2008. The Phins atleast won one in 2007.

2nd of all, the Lions dont have the Tuna.

But 3rd and imo the most important, the Lions didnt spend the majority of the season without their best player. The Dolphins were always getting Ronnie Brown, who when healthy was the nfls best running back in 2007, back on top of all the improvements. It would be the equivalent of Calvin Johnson being out for the year least year in week 7.

On top of that, with the exception of Norm there aint a damn soul on Earth who expects Stafford to play-if he wins the starting job- as well as Chad Pennington did.

I see the Lions as a 5-7 win team. Imo next years big improvers will be the Raiders (9-10 wins), Chiefs (9-10 wins), and 49ers (11-12 wins).

 

[Venom'sDad]

The Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5. The 09' Lions are completely different from the 08' Lions. Lots of improvements.

Exactly, they have made better LB's & DB's pick ups and draft picks. They still suspect as far as pressure on the QB; but their defense should be much better down the stretch. They loss alot of close games fellows and will play a 4th place schedule this year like Miami, which includes the NFC West... I can see this team winning 9 game, 10 if they can Split with the Vikings. They could very well be the Phin's of 09. Their problem will come agains Pit & Bal, Arz, NO, Vikes twice, and Da Bears.

 

[Excel]

Pennington had a bigger impact than anybody Detroits added this off season...though Daunte could mimic his performance.

 

[StorminNorman]

*ahem*

As one of the few-perhaps evwen the only one-ever-who said the Dolphins would be in the playoffs prior to the start of the season...let me say...the Lions are NOT in the same ship the Phins were; theirs is far worse.

I disagree.

1st of all the obvious, the Lions didnt win any games in 2008. The Phins atleast won one in 2007.

The Phins were ONE PLAY away from not winning a game. The Lions were ONE PLAY away from winning a game (Orvolosky's safety).

2nd of all, the Lions dont have the Tuna.

I don't think this team could have handled it's offseason better, no matter who was in the front office. Mayhew and Schwartz have done a fantastic job.

But 3rd and imo the most important, the Lions didnt spend the majority of the season without their best player. The Dolphins were always getting Ronnie Brown, who when healthy was the nfls best running back in 2007, back on top of all the improvements. It would be the equivalent of Calvin Johnson being out for the year least year in week 7.

Really? Ronnie Brown is the difference? Really?

On top of that, with the exception of Norm there aint a damn soul on Earth who expects Stafford to play-if he wins the starting job- as well as Chad Pennington did.

If Culpepper plays well enough to keep Stafford on the bench, it's really a non-issue as it is. Culpepper has to play as well as Chad Pennington did to stay on the field.

I see the Lions as a 5-7 win team. Imo next years big improvers will be the Raiders (9-10 wins), Chiefs (9-10 wins), and 49ers (11-12 wins).

The Chiefs aren't sniffing 9 games with only one offensive weapon. Also, if Jamarcus Russel doesn't play better than he has (or has practiced) there is no way the Raiders will win 9 games.

 

[StorminNorman]

Pennington had a bigger impact than anybody Detroits added this off season...though Daunte could mimic his performance.

I think Scott Linehan could make a Pennington-like impact through Culpepper.

 

[Darthphere]

Really? Ronnie Brown is the difference? Really?

Yeah, I mean think of the QB's we had and the talent we hand on offense. He was leading the league in rushing up to that point he got injured.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Detroit said they was going to a mid game behind the LB's. Daunte can make those throws. He can't throw the out or have a short game, because he has no timing. He can't make the three-step drop. Mid range to the deep ball is his game, so his rating will improve some. I'm certainly not saying he will have a ProBowl year and I do expect at time we will see the Top Pick, but that's motivation in itself. And it has been reported he has loss weight and is running sprints... now he needs to study film.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

As one of the few-perhaps evwen the only one-ever-who said the Dolphins would be in the playoffs prior to the start of the season...let me say...the Lions are NOT in the same ship the Phins were; theirs is far worse.

Sure, Detroit has more holes to fill than Miami did. But Detroit's offseason moves is a step in the right direction.

1st of all the obvious, the Lions didnt win any games in 2008. The Phins atleast won one in 2007.

One game isn't that big of a difference.

2nd of all, the Lions dont have the Tuna.

You don't need Parcells to have a good team.

But 3rd and imo the most important, the Lions didnt spend the majority of the season without their best player. The Dolphins were always getting Ronnie Brown, who when healthy was the nfls best running back in 2007, back on top of all the improvements. It would be the equivalent of Calvin Johnson being out for the year least year in week 7.

The Lions went through 3 QB's last season. Miami did the same in '07.

On top of that, with the exception of Norm there aint a damn soul on Earth who expects Stafford to play-if he wins the starting job- as well as Chad Pennington did.

I don't expect Stafford to play well in his first year. It all depends on if Cullpepper plays to his ability.

I see the Lions as a 5-7 win team. Imo next years big improvers will be the Raiders (9-10 wins), Chiefs (9-10 wins), and 49ers (11-12 wins).

Raiders winning 9-10 games?

 

[Immortalfire]

Raiders winning 9-10 games?

Ain't no way.