2010 NFL Thread II

[bunk]

What games are you watching man ? Are you blind or just ******ed ? Both games are awesome as f***.

You should watch more football. Games are typically more entertaining when both teams involved actually play to their potential for more than a few minutes. For the record: football can certainly be enjoyed by listening on the radio and I know couple of kids with disabilities who probably have a better grasp of the sport than you do… but nice try.

 

[Matt]

Since were talking "if's" if Big Dummy did not get paid all that money no woman would be with in 50 feet of the guy. Not like he has his looks going for him. I'm not condoning his behavior but the dumb women who put themselves in a bathroom stall with this guy have to take some of the responsibilty too. Oh but we give girls a free pass because going into a bathroom stall with an ugly NFL QB while booze is involved on both ends is a good decision with a completely innocent intention? Come on. She was dumb to do it and he is an animal, perfect mix for a terrible thing to happen (allegedly). Just like the dozens of skanks Tiger bagged, not one is talking about their moral compasses or decision making?? Oh no they are the victims too. Double standard? Of course, it is but the reality right now, I guess women still do not have equal rights since it's so easy to completely villify the man. I'm hoping Snookie will change all that someday.

Ben is a discusting animal, and women still flock to him, or is it his money and fame and how resposible is that?

Did you just blame the victim? Really? The girl was, if I remember correctly, 4 or 5 times over the legal limit. She should've never been in that club. Guess who used his influence to get her past the bouncers? Guess who bought her the shots? Guess whose body guard practically carried her to the bathroom because she could not walk on her own?

 

[Ghostvirus]

Thats the beauty of seeing man child like Rex go down. They are just as big a-holes losing as they are when they are winners. It is brilliant.

Has he cried yet. God I hope he does.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ok, I don't remember ever saying that you couldn't have an opinion about him If that is your opinion of him then that's cool.

People telling me to stop whining are insinuating I have no right to my opinion because he wasn't charged, and I am saying that is a big load of crap. Evidence makes me feel he is guilty, and I will forever hate him for it. If he gets traded to the Browns, I will become a fan of someone else until he is gone. I refuse to ever pull for that man, even if my Browns benefitted from him winning. At the end of the day, yes it is my opinion. But, as my opinion, I have a right to be vocal about it.

 

[Matt]

This isn't the first time he's done it.
[YT]RaMwByYq0fo[/YT]

That one was because they did not have Dorritos on the buffet. These are being completely taken out of context.

 

[Go Web Go!]

Congratulations, Jets, on once again playing one good half of football in the AFC title game.

 

[Pythenis]

Did you just blame the victim? Really? The girl was, if I remember correctly, 4 or 5 times over the legal limit. She should've never been in that club. Guess who used his influence to get her past the bouncers? Guess who bought her the shots? Guess whose body guard practically carried her to the bathroom because she could not walk on her own?

I did not blame the victim but you make a strong case to blame her.

1. She was 4-5 times over the legal limit.

2. She should have never been in that club.

3. She accepted free alcohol after being 4-5 time over the limit.

4. She let herself become to drunk to make responsible decisions.

5. she was not with a group of friends or people who would keep track of her.

So you say when you get really drunk you are no longer responsible for yourself? and if something horrible happens to you it's someone else's fault or responsibility?

I am not blaming her for what happend just saying if she would have been responsible nothing would have happend to her.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Did you just blame the victim? Really? The girl was, if I remember correctly, 4 or 5 times over the legal limit. She should've never been in that club. Guess who used his influence to get her past the bouncers? Guess who bought her the shots? Guess whose body guard practically carried her to the bathroom because she could not walk on her own?

That is the way society worked. We blame victims. This is why cops ask girls what they were wearing after being raped, as absurd a question that is. It's disgusting, but that is how it is.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I did not blame the victim but you make a strong case to blame her.

1. She was 4-5 times over the legal limit.

2. She should have never been in that club.

3. She accepted free alcohol after being 4-5 time over the limit.

4. She let herself become to drunk to make responsible decisions.

5. she was not with a group of friends or people who would keep track of her.

So you say when you get really drunk you are no longer responsible for yourself? and if something horrible happens to you it's someone else's fault or responsibility?

I am not blaming her for what happend just saying if she would have been responsible nothing would have happend to her.

In other words, it is her fault for not being responisble. So, you ARE blaming the victim.

 

[Marvolo]

This isn't the first time he's done it.
[YT]RaMwByYq0fo[/YT]

The guy who picks who picks up his hat

 

[Matt]

I did not blame the victim but you make a strong case to blame her.

1. She was 4-5 times over the legal limit.

2. She should have never been in that club.

3. She accepted free alcohol after being 4-5 time over the limit.

4. She let herself become to drunk to make responsible decisions.

5. she was not with a group of friends or people who would keep track of her.

So you say when you get really drunk you are no longer responsible for yourself? and if something horrible happens to you it's someone else's fault or responsibility?

I am not blaming her for what happend just saying if she would have been responsible nothing would have happend to her.

Actually, number 5 is off. She was with a group. They tried to get her out of the bathroom. Rapistberger's body guards would not let them. As for the rest, a college kid did something dumb. Doesn't mean she is to be blamed for being raped.

 

[Pythenis]

In other words, it is her fault for not being responisble. So, you ARE blaming the victim.

I believe her lack of responsibility played a part in what happend and Ben should be in jail for it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I believe her lack of responsibility played a part in what happend and Ben should be in jail for it.

At least we agree here.

 

[Pythenis]

Actually, number 5 is off. She was with a group. They tried to get her out of the bathroom. Rapistberger's body guards would not let them. As for the rest, a college kid did something dumb. Doesn't mean she is to be blamed for being raped.

"a college kid did something dumb" is exactly my point, I am not condoning Ben just saying her actions contributed to the outcome. As far as her "friends", dear god I would have done what ever neccesarry to get my friend out of a bad situation. "Body guards" are not police and if they hit me or got physical, all the better to attract attendtion to the incident and get as much publicity even if the act would not have been stopped.

 

[Matt]

"a college kid did something dumb" is exactly my point, I am not condoning Ben just saying her actions contributed to the outcome. As far as her "friends", dear god I would have done what ever neccesarry to get my friend out of a bad situation. "Body guards" are not police and if they hit me or got physical, all the better to attract attendtion to the incident and get as much publicity even if the act would not have been stopped.

Actually, they were cops. They were PA state troopers who he basically rented. But that's neither here nor there. As for getting the help she needed, well, she went to the local police after the fact and they called her a "drunk *****," and laughed at her. So yeah, who knows how that would've gone? Like I said, whole thing stinks of corruption.

 

[Marvolo]

I did not blame the victim but you make a strong case to blame her.

1. She was 4-5 times over the legal limit.

2. She should have never been in that club.

3. She accepted free alcohol after being 4-5 time over the limit.

4. She let herself become to drunk to make responsible decisions.

5. she was not with a group of friends or people who would keep track of her.

So you say when you get really drunk you are no longer responsible for yourself? and if something horrible happens to you it's someone else's fault or responsibility?

I am not blaming her for what happend just saying if she would have been responsible nothing would have happend to her.

1. That can be typical of anyone in a bar.

2.She was in it because of him.

3. At 4-5 times over the legal limit it can be hard to turn down alcohol when someone is being persistant. Especially, someone you like a lot. Anyone who has been drunk with friends or someone you are attracted to knows this is true.

4.This is up for debate whether this was her fault. If you know the bartender or have a way of pulling it off you can keep someones glass full at all times. And anyone can pull this off. An NFL star would have no problem. This causes the person drinking to lose track of how much they've drunk until its too late. I have had this happen to me. I ended up safely at home, though, unlike this poor girl.

5. Girls can be naive. That doesn't mean they deserve what happened to her.

Even if she went out that night intending to sleep with him, that still wouldn't make Ben innocent. Because sometime during the night she changed her mind which is a human right. Ben didn't like that and forced himself on her. When a girls says No she means No. Put your junk up and walk away.

 

[Pythenis]

1. That can be typical of anyone in a bar.

2.She was in it because of him.

3. At 4-5 times over the legal limit it can be hard to turn down alcohol when someone is being persistant. Especially, someone you like a lot. Anyone who has been drunk with friends or someone you are attracted to knows this is true.

4.This is up for debate whether this was her fault. If you know the bartender or have a way of pulling it off you can keep someones glass full at all times. And anyone can pull this off. An NFL star would have no problem. This causes the person drinking to lose track of how much they've drunk until its too late. I have had this happen to me. I ended up safely at home, though, unlike this poor girl.

5. Girls can be naive. That doesn't mean they deserve what happened to her.

If she went out that night intending to sleep with him, but that still wouldn't make Ben innocent. Because sometime during the night she changed her mind which is a human right. Ben didn't like that and forced himself on her. When a girls says No she means No. Put your junk up and walk away.

I agree with you.......fact is she was irresponsible with her safety and well being and some animal took advantage of the situation that she put herself in.

 

[Drizzle]

So Christina Aguilera will be singing the Star Spangled Banner and Fergie will be performing with the Black Eyed Peas at halftime at Super Bowl XLV. They'd better stay far away from the Steelers locker room with Big Ben around.

 

[BlackLantern]

So Christina Aguilera will be singing the Star Spangled Banner and Fergie will be performing with the Black Eyed Peas at halftime at Super Bowl XLV. They'd better stay far away from the Steelers locker room with Big Ben around.

that sounds awful

1. Jay Cutler is a total vajeen

2. Todd Collins is a total failure

3. Caleb Hanie looked decent for getting plunked into that situation

 

[Raiden]

Congratulations, Jets, on once again playing one good half of football in the AFC title game.

Yeah, they really need to work on that one. But I'm proud the fact that Jets have made it to the AFC Conference Championship game two games in a row, which no one believe would happen when Rex Ryan took over. So you have to give credit to Ryan even if you don't like his trash-talking.

 

[Spider-Fan]

For everyone hating on Rex Ryan for the trash talking, I have to point out they made the AFC Championship TWICE in 2 years under him. Yes, that is not winning the SB, but in 2 years, he has made the final 4. That shows what he does works for his team, like it or not. He is an excellent coach and does what he has to to get his team ready to play.

 

[Raiden]

Btw, here's what ESPN's rapid reaction said about Sanchez:

Admirable effort: Nobody can hang the loss on Mark Sanchez. He did just about all he could without a run game to help them avoid third-and-long situations. Sanchez played better than Ben Roethlisberger. Sanchez completed 20 of his 33 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions. Roethlisberger was 10-of-19 for 133 yards and no touchdowns with two interceptions.

 

[Matt]

Btw, here's what ESPN's rapid reaction said about Sanchez:

Like I said, the problem was, IMO, that Schottenheimer for whatever reason, had no faith in Sanchez in the first half. I have no idea why that is, but Sanchez just wasn't part of the original game plan. HUGE mistake, because Sanchez showed in the second half that he is more than capable of carrying that team. Had Sanchez been allowed to run the game from the beginning, the Jets would've won.

 

[Dark Donnie]

that sounds awful

1. Jay Cutler is a total vajeen

2. Todd Collins is a total failure

3. Caleb Hanie looked decent for getting plunked into that situation

When Caleb Hanie woke up...he probably wasn't sure he'd pick up a football today let alone almost bring The Bears back to a victory.

BTW, If Big Ben wins another Superbowl he will be up there with the best of all time. He'll easily be neck and neck with Brady and Manning. Unlike both of those guys he's kept his teams pretty damn consistent at the top. I'm not calling the guy Marino #'s wise but he is easily one of the best big game QB's. He gets the job done when it needs it.

 

[El_Citrus]

Which simply means its his time to be wrong...

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"RUHWUT? SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT WHILE I WAS FEASTING ON THIS 100% GRADE A WISCONSIN CHEESE AND HEINZ KETCHUP SANDWICH!!!"

Yeah, we rewarded his happily insane booty for picking both games correctly today. We're so betting actual money on the Super Bowl with him.