2011/2012 NBA Thread: Where Weather Happens

[Daniel Thompson]

See, what the Heat need to do is score more points than the Celtics. That is the key to the game.

They need to play all 4 quarters instead of only 1.

 

[Matt]

See, what the Heat need to do is score more points than the Celtics. That is the key to the game.

Quiet you!

Seriously though, I really feel like Spo's strategy is to hold back for the first three quarters, just keep in the game and let the Celtics wear themselves out. And it is such a stupid strategy. Three of the four games, the Heat were playing from behind going into the third. Spo needs to adjust. His team needs to be playing hard all game, not just in the fourth.

 

[Matt]

A friend last night at work made a good point in that the way the NBA was in the 90s playing wise will never be like that again. Never be a bad boyz Pistons team that plays that style defense. Too many players crying and complaining to the refs like Rondo said, they def be whinning when get slammed on their head all the time or clotheslined.

It is Stern's fault. His legacy is one of control. He has given the refs authority to blow the whistle over even the slightest bit of incidental contact. It makes flopping a valid strategy.

Stern has watered down the game so much. He effectively killed the NBA.

They need to play all 4 quarters instead of only 1.

Bingo.

 

[Duke]

I hope Stern leaves the NBA very soon!

 

[Daniel Thompson]

It is Stern's fault. His legacy is one of control. He has given the refs authority to blow the whistle over even the slightest bit of incidental contact. It makes flopping a valid strategy.

Stern has watered down the game so much. He effectively killed the NBA.



Bingo.

Thats why with Stern possibly gone in 2014 the new commish can end that crap. Stern also made the NBA a guards league so you do not have the dominate power forwards and centers like you had in the 80s and 90s, especially the centers.

 

[Doc Samson]

The NBA was still plenty physical in the early-mid 2000's, I think the Malice at the Palace along with the influx of European players have more to do with the current state of officiating than anything else.

The refs completely lost control of that Pistons/Pacers game well before Artest ventured into the stands & I think the fallout was a stark overreaction.

Also let's be honest, how many players in the NBA today are like Charles Oakley or Anthony Mason in terms of demeanor anyway? The European influence is heavy now. They brought the flopping to the game, and also the idea of the perimeter "Big" who can shoot and pass.

It's no different than the NFL and the demise of the running game in favor of high powered passing offenses. Teams would rather launch 40 yard throws in hopes of getting ticky tack pass interference calls instead of pounding the ball on the ground.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

^ Teams that pound the ball are more successful though hency why Steelers have the most SB rings in the NFL. And I understand the brawl at the palace shook things up and refs do not want a repeat but they still need to calm down on that whistle and just let them play ball.

 

[Doc Samson]

The Giants, Packers, Saints, Colts, Pats, Cardinals have all been in or won recent Superbowls without consistent running games. Even the Steelers recently, against the Pack and when they beat the Cards, rarely ran the ball. The NFL shifted away from that when the Rams "Greatest show on Turf" was ripping teams apart, that's over 10 years ago...

 

[CConn]

I dunno, I'm not a big fan of highly physical basketball.

It seems like, when you go too much in that direction, you end up with a lot of high physicality/low talent players who can rebound like nobody's business, but can't make a free throw shot to save their lives.

 

[Matt]

I dunno, I'm not a big fan of highly physical basketball.

It seems like, when you go too much in that direction, you end up with a lot of high physicality/low talent players who can rebound like nobody's business, but can't make a free throw shot to save their lives.

I think as with most things, a middle ground is needed. I don't want no holds barred basketball (as it is more a game of skill than pure physicality) but I also do not want the slightest contact drawing a whistle. A happy medium can exist, I believe. It is just a matter of finding it.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

^ You had that in the 80s and 90s, it was not out of control prison style basketball.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Now this is how the heat should play all game long.

 

[Doc Samson]

^ Not so fast. They keep turning that ball over, it's going to be a long 48 hours.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

^ Yeah you right if they can stop the turnovers though they should be able to hold Boston off.

 

[Matt]

Van Gundy just kinda laughs it off when the Heat flops but when Allen does it, it is a disgrace to the game and he should be "fined a million dollars." I agree that the flopping is absurd, but Van Gundy's double standard makes it so ridiculous. He sounds more like Jerry 'The King' Lawler, rooting for the heel, than a serious sportscaster.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

If Boston can hold off and win this game the series over thursday night.

 

[runawayboulder]

They let em hang around too long and it's about to cost them.....

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Yeah Miami had a 13 pt lead they should of never given that up.

 

[Matt]

The fouls begin, that is game. It is too soon to say that the series is over. Boston is about to win three in a row, no reason that Miami can't win two. They need to win in Boston now though....and that is a tall order.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Miami can win two in a row but the question is will they. Boston is such an expierenced team and its tough to win in Boston at TD Garden.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Lol at kid saying good effort.

 

[BatSpider]

Man this is getting really tiresome to say but

Lebron in the 4th quarter: non-existent.

 

[Poeman]

There was so much clutch in this game from Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and Peaches

 

[Anubis]

Heh, wow.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Man this is getting really tiresome to say but

Lebron in the 4th quarter: non-existent.

That is no surprise.