2011/2012 NBA Thread: The Heat is On

[Poeman]

@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1's for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.

Orlando are massive idiots

 

[L.A.]

@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1's for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.

Orlando are massive idiots

I don't get it either

 

[Poeman]

I don't get it either

Rob Hennigan is the general manager of the Orlando Magic. At age 30, he is the biggest joke of a GM in the NBA.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Hennigan

 

[Webfoot Hero]

@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1's for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.

Orlando are massive idiots

I'd have to agree with you there. The Nets deal was so much better than what this whole 4-team deal is giving them. The current deal is a who's who of NBA role players and draft picks that won't ever contribute.

 

[Raiden]

Or the clippers. Will have max space next season and Paul and Howard are best friends. Haha Howard just said he will test dive the lakers this season! Enjoy the rental

Worry about your Chris Paul first; he hasn't signed a long-term deal with the Clippers yet.

 

[Raiden]

I'd have to agree with you there. The Nets deal was so much better than what this whole 4-team deal is giving them. The current deal is a who's who of NBA role players and draft picks that won't ever contribute.

That's because Orlando waited too long, and let the deal with the Nets slipped by. And now they knew they can't let Howard go to the training camp, so this is a desperate move on their part. If they don't do it now, they will end up with nothing plus a very disgruntled Howard for the rest of the season.

 

[Doc Samson]

Yeah they played around a little too long. I thought at one point both Gasol & Bynum were offered way back when. Plus the Nets deal they rejected. But I suppose they'll still get some cap room, so all is not lost.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Yeah they played around a little too long. I thought at one point both Gasol & Bynum were offered way back when. Plus the Nets deal they rejected. But I suppose they'll still get some cap room, so all is not lost.

Magic really overplayed their hand and are now scraping the bottom of the barrel to just get anything in return for Howard.

 

[L.A.]

I'd have to agree with you there. The Nets deal was so much better than what this whole 4-team deal is giving them. The current deal is a who's who of NBA role players and draft picks that won't ever contribute.

I can see Howard forcing a sign and trade to the nets fur the same deal

 

[L.A.]

Magic dealt Dwight to the Lakers out of spite of his actions. He begged them not to do it, because A. he doesnt want to follow Shaq's shoes, and B. he doesnt want to play with Kobe.

Lakers say they think they can convince him to stay. But to be honest I don't think they will beat Spurs or Lakers, Kobe and Dwight are both Me-Me-Me players

 

[Docker2.0]

Orlando is crazy. How is this deal better than what the Nets was offering? It doesn't matter because the Knicks still rule NYC. Anyone think Dwight will leave LA for the Nets after the season? I actually can see him doing it because I don't see Kobe playing well with Nash or Howard. I honestly believe it's Bynum was so disruptive this year.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Orlando is crazy. How is this deal better than what the Nets was offering? It doesn't matter because the Knicks till rule NYC. Anyone think Dwight will leave LA for the Nets after the season? I actually can see him doing it because I don't see Kobe playing well with Nash or Howard. I honestly believe it's Bynum was so disruptive this year.

I think they kind of wanted to get him out of the Eastern Conference.

 

[Docker2.0]

I think they kind of wanted to get him out of the Eastern Conference.

I'm calling it now: he'll be back east next year.

 

[Doc Samson]

Kobe hate thickening lmao, I love it. Did the man not win 5 titles with a post player before? Or did I miss something? His main complaint with Gasol is he's not aggressive enough, isn't that an oxymoron for this ultimate me-first gunner you guys love to hate?

 

[Docker2.0]

people keep forgetting that Kobe has to pass now...haha...Kobe passing...

It won't happen. Kobe has clearly lost a step but won't stop shooting. Mike Brown is not the right coach for this team. If Phil couldn't bring Kobe back down to Earth, though he tried numerous times in the media, Mike Brown has no chance.

 

[Docker2.0]

Kobe hate thickening lmao, I love it. Did the man not win 5 titles with a post player before? Or did I miss something? His main complaint with Gasol is he's not aggressive enough, isn't that an oxymoron for this ultimate me-first gunner you guys love to hate?

Hard to be aggressive when the shooting guard is bringing the ball up the court, shooting it 95% of the time or turning it over, yet blaming Pau. Kobe clearly has mental issues.

 

[Doc Samson]

Hard to be aggressive when the shooting guard is bringing the ball up the court, shooting it 95% of the time or turning it over, yet blaming Pau. Kobe clearly has mental issues.

No, he clearly had a PG he didn't respect, completely different. Also, 90% of the time he got the ball, it came from Pau anyway, so what are you saying? Do you even consider Kobe a HOF? Honestly? You guys act like his career was one big lucky mistake, smh. I just can't wait until he really does retire and they put together that film package and play it for a week or so. Too many people have revisionist history with this dude...

 

[Anubis]

This is fun.

Kobe's a ball hog.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Kobe hate thickening lmao, I love it. Did the man not win 5 titles with a post player before? Or did I miss something? His main complaint with Gasol is he's not aggressive enough, isn't that an oxymoron for this ultimate me-first gunner you guys love to hate?

5 titles yes...but hes not 30 anymore. he can still shoot but he isnt the same player he was, definitely has lost a step but still tries to jack up shot after shot.

The Lakers arent getting out of the West. with Mike Brown as a coach, two aging stars as their starters and a shallow bench it be hard to see them beat a much more improved and hungry OKC.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Sign Barbosa or Meeks to back up the guard spots and they can pretty much call it an offseason.

Mitch Kupchak, two months ago: "We don't really expect any deals."

 

[Doc Samson]

5 titles yes...but hes not 30 anymore. he can still shoot but he isnt the same player he was, definitely has lost a step but still tries to jack up shot after shot.

The Lakers arent getting out of the West. with Mike Brown as a coach, two aging stars as their starters and a shallow bench it be hard to see them beat a much more improved and hungry OKC.

He's definitely not the same player he was, but at the same time, he's never really respected any of his teammates as "on his level" since Shaq. Even then, he didn't respect Shaq's work ethic, some of the stunts he pulled in the offseason, and generally how much Shaq tried to embarrass him during his rookie season.

He, without a doubt, will respect who Nash is and what he's done. He'll have no problem letting him run the offense. As far as Dwight goes, that remains to be seen. Dwight is very goofy similar to Shaq, and if Howard isn't putting in the work to get better and be the future, yeah, Kobe won't have a problem stirring it up with him. Personally, I think Dwight needs that anyway, at this stage of his career. On top of that, Dwight & Bynum got virtually the same exact number of touches last season, so it's not like it's going to be real different for him.

As far as the bench is concerned, Jamison is no slouch. Hill brought the only real energy off the pine last season, so he'll see more minutes. If they can land another SG who can actually shoot, I like their chances.

 

[Raiden]

OKC may have deeper bench, but Lakers now have 5 All-Star in their starting lineup, and I think the experiences and the collection of future HOF will help the Lakers win the West. Besides, Lakers' bench has gotten better in the off-season, and it's not as awful as it were last season.

 

[Docker2.0]

Let's not forget Kobe cost the Lakers the chance to beat OKC but blamed his teammates. I would hate to play on his team!

 

[Scrandy Randy]

Let's not forget Kobe cost the Lakers the chance to beat OKC but blamed his teammates. I would hate to play on his team!

Do you just blissfully ignore responses to your drivel? 42 points and you still cling to this idiotic statement.

 

[Scrandy Randy]

5 titles yes...but hes not 30 anymore. he can still shoot but he isnt the same player he was, definitely has lost a step but still tries to jack up shot after shot.

Kobe is one of the few players that hasn't seen a huge decline with age. Especially considering he has no knees. Can you find a similiar player who still performs at this level at this age with all the knee problems Kobe has had? They're out of the league by now.

The Lakers arent getting out of the West. with Mike Brown as a coach, two aging stars as their starters and a shallow bench it be hard to see them beat a much more improved and hungry OKC.

Yes two aging stars, one making 12.5 PPG 10.7 APG and shooting above 50% and the other 27.9 PPG. You can say they're "aging stars" but the stats don't agree with the usual meaning of that statement. Did Miami not have a shallow bench but still get it done with a big three? We have a big four and still went out and improved our bench by signing Atawn Jamison who averaged 17.2 PPG. How exactly will they be much improved? They didn't do a whole lot in the off season and certainly didn't add a major piece that will significantly improve them. While we added the best defensive player in the game below the basket who won't take plays off and won't get beaten for speed by Russell Westbrook like Bynum would.