2012: A Monster Year? (box office predictions)

[chaseter]

John carter may surprise

The only way it will surprise is if it somehow makes it in the top ten by being tenth. It's going to be a huge box office flop.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

The only way it will surprise is if it somehow makes it in the top ten by being tenth. It's going to be a huge box office flop.

And you know this how? Please, share your time machine with the rest of us. Just because marketing isn't what you'd like it to be yet doesn't mean it's going to flop. The movie comes out in March and it only takes a few weeks of advertising for it to build hype. It's also going to be the official movie sponsor of the Super bowl.

 

[chaseter]

What is the entire point of this ****ing thread? Do we own all time machines!? Go away if you are going to cry over me saying John Carter will flop.

I will gladly make a bet with you. What do you think it will make opening weekend domestic?

 

[def28]

1.Dark Knight Rises
2.Hobbit
3.Avengers
4.Twilight
4.Spider-Man
5.Prometheus

so is red riding hood and that bombed

Riding Hood did not look like a family film. It looked like a cheap Twilight period piece. Nobody wants to see that.

Alice in Wonderland is based on a classic story known all around the world, while Dark Shadows is sort of a remake of an old tv-series I doubt many outside US are familiar with.

Exactly, Alice at least doubled all Burtons other films World wide, and had 80 million above his other top film (Batman) domesti, though it does beat Alice with inflation. The story of Alice in Wonderland plus Disney and their marketing was alot of its success . Burton has never had that kind box office, except with Batman. I see Dark Shadows at 200 mill domestic tops and I really doubt it will do that. It wont be as fam friendly as AIW and CATCF plus no one will know wtf it is.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

What is the entire point of this ****ing thread? Do we own all time machines!? Go away if you are going to cry over me saying John Carter will flop.

I will gladly make a bet with you. What do you think it will make opening weekend domestic?

LOL there's no need for that kind of language, calm yourself. Who's crying? If you think the movie's going to flop then so be it, I was wondering how you were so sure that it would flop. It's not just this thread you've said this as well, so I was curious. Want to turn hostile towards me? I'm fine with that, just don't expect any hostility back.

As for opening weekend, I can't be sure because I don't pay attention to things like that to be honest. I just don't think the movie's going to flop, pure and simple. However, we can make a bet on whether it will simply flop or not.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

LOL there's no need for that kind of language, calm yourself. Who's crying? If you think the movie's going to flop then so be it, I was wondering how you were so sure that it would flop. It's not just this thread you've said this as well, so I was curious. Want to turn hostile towards me? I'm fine with that, just don't expect any hostility back.

As for opening weekend, I can't be sure because I don't pay attention to things like that to be honest. I just don't think the movie's going to flop, pure and simple. However, we can make a bet on whether it will simply flop or not.

What is the ****ing point of language if we aren't swear at each other? I swear at you and you do so at me that's how this works!!! Not I swear at you and you cry and flop and leave!!!

Rrargh! Want to bet? I bet I can make you swear at me!!! I want my hostility that I am owed goddamnit!!!




And I doing this right?

 

[chaseter]

Don't be snarky in a thread about predictions by asking if I have a time machine.

All you had to do is ask why I thought that way. Why I think that way is that there has been next to no marketing, the books aren't selling like hot cakes and aren't the it thing right now, the books aren't beloved literary masterpieces, there is no hype what so ever, they are releasing it in March and not the summer, and lastly...the lead is not a big star. Look at the thread on here...how many pages is it? Us nerds are the people who will go see it because the GA doesn't give a crap about it. I don't think it will surpass $100 million domestic in it's entire run and I would bet $30-$40 million opening weekend if it gets good reviews. That would be good if it's budget was $60 million but I would bet it's budget is close to $200 or right under. So...it will flop. Advertising at the Super Bowl might give it a little bump but it's not going to be a powerhouse at all.

 

[chaseter]

And I doing this right?

Almost....almost. I didn't feel it.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I think you seriously underestimate the appeal and long term popularity of the books.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Don't be snarky in a thread about predictions by asking if I have a time machine.

All you had to do is ask why I thought that way. Why I think that way is that there has been next to no marketing, the books aren't selling like hot cakes and aren't the it thing right now, the books aren't beloved literary masterpieces, there is no hype what so ever, they are releasing it in March and not the summer, and lastly...the lead is not a big star. Look at the thread on here...how many pages is it? Us nerds are the people who will go see it because the GA doesn't give a crap about it. I don't think it will surpass $100 million domestic in it's entire run and I would bet $30-$40 million opening weekend if it gets good reviews. That would be good if it's budget was $60 million but I would bet it's budget is close to $200 or right under. So...it will flop. Advertising at the Super Bowl might give it a little bump but it's not going to be a powerhouse at all.

I apologize for acting "snarky" towards you. Do you think you could lend me your time machine? I need to travel back in time and correct that fatal error.

Seriously, though. Those are some interesting points but we'll see in a few months.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

What is the ****ing point of language if we aren't swear at each other? I swear at you and you do so at me that's how this works!!! Not I swear at you and you cry and flop and leave!!!

Rrargh! Want to bet? I bet I can make you swear at me!!! I want my hostility that I am owed goddamnit!!!




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[Liam_H]

I believe the budget has ballooned way past $200 million. So this needs a lot of overseas help to do well.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

With Christian Bale's involvement in Flowers of War and his recent visit to China, does anybody think TDKR will also be banned in the country?

 

[matrix_ghost]

With Christian Bale's involvement in Flowers of War and his recent visit to China, does anybody think TDKR will also be banned in the country?

Isn't Flowers of War pro-chinese and anti-japanese ?

 

[Liam_H]

I thought the reason it was banned was because it painted a chinese person in a bad light, so if it avoids similar issues this time I don't see why it would be banned. And yes Flowers of War is very pro-chinese and anti-japanese.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Isn't Flowers of War pro-chinese and anti-japanese ?

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/n...ale-not-worried-about-chinese-censorship.html

 

[matrix_ghost]

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/n...ale-not-worried-about-chinese-censorship.html

Naah.
I doubt the cinese goverment will throw a hissy fit over this.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Then I wonder, how much more money will TDKR make with China on the map?

 

[matrix_ghost]

Then I wonder, how much more money will TDKR make with China on the map?

Difficult to tell.
For example the last potter movie made 60 million in China.
Transformers Dark of the Moon : 145 million

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Difficult to tell.
For example the last potter movie made 60 million in China.
Transformers Dark of the Moon : 145 million

Exactly. It's a toss up. The film could make 30 to 130 million, who knows?

I presume, it'll probably be the key country to TDKR being first or second place in the international market when coming to TDKR-Hobbit face-off.

 

[DACrowe]

And you know this how? Please, share your time machine with the rest of us. Just because marketing isn't what you'd like it to be yet doesn't mean it's going to flop. The movie comes out in March and it only takes a few weeks of advertising for it to build hype. It's also going to be the official movie sponsor of the Super bowl.

chaster's right. The movie has bomb written all over it. The trailers are nothing but lots of CGI overload and offer no distinctive plot. It's just lots of SFX shots that audiences have seen a million times before. Also, the concept of going to Mars--where we know humans cannot live and where there are no aliens--and having swords and sandals battles with what look like leftovers from the SW prequels ten years ago....

I just don't see it connecting with anybody but diehard fans of the original stories or those who love near all things sci-fi and/or heroic. But that thing has flop written all over it, in my opinion.

 

[:eek:]

Boxoffice.com:s choices for the biggest movies, domestically, in the next two months:

The Hunger Games: $185 million
Dr. Seuss' The Lorax: $130 million
The Vow: $87 million
Safe House: $75 million
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance: $70 million

 

[Liam_H]

They could be right or not. As any site they do the best they can but aren't always right.

 

[flickchick85]

I think John Carter has a chance to surprise in quality, but not at the box office. It's destined to bomb.

 

[Superhero 101]

I think John Carter will perform like Cowboys and Aliens in the boxoffice