80's Sci Fi/Action Movies Appreciation Thread

[Jimothy]

T3 just seemed more like a parody than a continuation. The CGI was also so obvious.

I thought the CGI was pretty good, actually. Completely forgettable movie though.

 

[CFE]

T3 was also a bit cliche with making the next villain Terminator a woman.

I'm not saying I'm sexist to the idea, but I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the concept.

CFE

 

[Jimothy]

T3 was also a bit cliche with making the next villain Terminator a woman.

I'm not saying I'm sexist to the idea, but I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the concept.

CFE

Again, another thing I didn't have a problem with. It made it different from the previous two. Unfortunately, the quality itself was also different.

 

[bullets]

james cameron tells no lies

 

[CFE]

The biggest, and actually only problem I have with T3 is simply this initial reaction I had when I first heard of the film entering production...

"Wait who the f**k's Jonathan Mostow?"

CFE

 

[Jimothy]

Jonathan Mostow didn't make a bad movie, it's just he was unfortunate that he had to follow up James Cameron. If you can't get Cameron to do it, don't do it at all.

 

[Golgo-13]

The issue is not that they look different. Predators are like humans;no two look excatly alike. The Predator in P1 looked different than the one in P2, especially in the face but they still had one thing in common; they looked like organic beings. The Pred in AVP looked like a puppeteered face. The skin looked like latex/rubber. It looked in-orgainic, whereas the Preds faces in P1 and P2 had skin that looked like they were composed of living cells, such as our own skin. The issue with the face is not so much the features it's more so the overall look and texture, imo.

 

[turtlefocker]

have you been living under a rock???lol

Just wishful thinking, he probably would have rather been living under a rock than having to sit through A:R.

I love the ALIEN Trilogy! My favorite is Alien 3. I know alot of people hate it but I love it, especially the Assembly Cut on the Quad set. I hope that someday David Fincher will make a director's cut. I agree with others that Alien 3 was the perfect way to end the series with Ripley's death and (as far as we know) extermination of the Xenomorphs. Resurrection, aside from a few scenes is really bad. Its like watching a parody. The movie had some interesting ideas, but was executed poorly.

Alien, Aliens (special edition), and Alien 3 make a PERFECT trilogy. Three truly amazing films in my opinion. interestingly each one represents a different genre, the original was suspense/horror, Aliens was action/thriller and alien 3 was a human drama.

I love the Alien duology. Truly, two great films. I mean, the way it ends on a happy note, as Ripley deserved? Instead of taking two great supporting characters and KILLING THEM IN THE OPENING FIVE MINUTES OF A CRAPPY, UNNEEDED THIRD INSTALLMENT THAT MAKES THE SECOND COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, DOES NOTHING TO EXPAND THE CREATIVE IDEAS, AND MAKES THE MAIN CHARACTER COMPLETELY UNLIKEABLE AND WEAK....we have instead, the perfect bookend. The Nostromo, "Come on, man, the food ain't that bad!", Dallas in the air ducts, Power-loader battle, Bishop, "Eat this..." A great set-up, a perfect conclusion.

Game over, man. Game over.

I can see where you are coming from. Any fan of the first two Alien films is a friend of mine (unless you like A:R).

Thing I don't like about the SE for Alien 3 is that the new scenes with the Alien look bad. The human scenes they added were great, but the new shots of the Alien (and unfinished effects) are very distracting.

I really wish Fox would drop down some money to clean it up with new CGI, imagine how beautiful the film could look.

I have said it before and will say it again .... EVERYTHING after Alien 3 is a farce ... the creature has been thrust into the light made weaker and is now a cartoon version of the original creation.

Damn shame.

Lets just put it this way...


Before Alien Resurrection>

<After Alien: Resurrection (Alien 3 to you)


How did it fall so far so fast...

I loved Alien and Aliens. They are Sci-Fi classics (though I do think Aliens is better). These movies show how great Scott and Cameron are.

I actaully enjoy Alien 3, and don't hate it like many people do. I think it is good, but far from great. Fincher certainly has done better work than it.

Now, Alien Ressurection has some nice scenes, but it is awful. No other way to say it. The movie sucks.

I thought AvP had some nice bits, but overall was weak. They could easily have done better (like by making the movie an R type movie!!!).

All in all, I enjoy watching the Xenomorphs, and enjoy most of this franchise.

AVP being PG-13 wasn't the problem. AVP having dumb dialog, bad performances, annoying characters... basically everything about AVP was a giant mistake. Horrible horrible film--- not as bad as Ressurection though in my opinion.

This review of Alien 3 scrapes the surface of why I like it:

If Ridley Scott's "Alien" (1979) had more surprises and James Cameron's "Aliens" (1986) more thrills, David Fincher's austere, low-tech, darkly funny "Alien³" has more sharply observed characters. The script -- reflecting the struggle of nine writers -- even has a subtext. This must be the first $50 million thriller that also functions as an AIDS allegory.

Officer Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) crash-lands on Fury 161, an all-male religious colony inhabited by celibate former convicts. "No rubbers, no women, no guns, no ****," says Dillon (Charles S. Dutton), the group's leader. Ripley's fellow passengers, including the young girl she protected in "Aliens," are dead. Is there an alien inside the dead child? Ripley demands that medical officer Clemens (the excellent Charles Dance) perform an antopsy. At first the convicts don't believe Ripley's talk of doom; then the "unwelcome virus" starts taking casualties.

Vincent Ward, who devised the story, directed "The Navigator," a 1988 film about another plague. But "Alien³," beset by studio interference, sometimes loses sight of its larger theme to provide the usual jolts. The compromise isn't fatal. Fincher, 29, makes a feature-directing debut that goes beyond the sleek panache he showed in his Madonna videos. Though he borrows from Kubrick's 2001 and Cameron's "Terminator 2," Fincher gives the images new resonance, creating a provocative fusion of suspense and feeling. Weaver is in spectacular form. Unarmed and nearly bald, she's never seemed more resourcefully human. Her final scene -- a war between her maternal and killer instincts -- is bold and haunting. So is the movie.

-PETER TRAVERS

 

[bullets]

arnie always did a good job though

 

[Nathan]

Not only was the problem that it looked like a mask, but he also looked way too human and tame. And worst of all, that was intended.

 

[Golgo-13]

Not only was the problem that it looked like a mask, but he also looked way too human and tame. And worst of all, that was intended.

Damn that idiot Anderson.

Bring on Predator 3. Predators in Space. Wouldn't it be cool if the Predator was on some other alien planet, or hunting some new threat that was invading their own homeworld......

...all this Predator talk is making me wanna head over to Amazon.com and order the Predator 2 pack. I have both movies on VHS but not on DVD.

 

[turtlefocker]

I like P1 and P2 equally, but for different reason.

P1 i like for it's simplicity. We'd never seen anything like what happens in the movie in any other movie. Also the Predator remains mysterious. All we know about him is that he arrived on a ship (seen at the beginning), and that he hunts only in the hottest years.

I don't think Predator was all that original but it was very fun. A great film.

P2 just has that classic 80's action feel to it that i miss and love. There's plenty of profanity, plenty of violence, and we get once again see the Predator hunting during a heatwave. Which let you know the Predators must come from a hot planet. We also learn a little more about the Predator; he likes to eat beef! And by the ritual wall on the ship at the end, they've been hunting other Alien species, and man for centuries........

Predator 2 is probably the most under-rated film ever. I saw it once years ago then again recently and don't remember what I had against it back in the day. Its a classic 80's action movie witch expands on the Predator universe.

AVP having The Predators hunt in a cold climate comletely contradicts the Predators naural habits. There are other isolated parts of the world that are hot, that would have been more suited for a Predator ritual. Having it in Antartica was one of many AVP ****s ups that i hated.

Make no mistake every copy of AVP should be burned.

If a 3 is made. I would love to see them Hunt on another Alien world. It would be a great opportunity for Fox to launch another Alien-type franchise by having the Predators hunt another new Alien specie.

That is an interesting idea. I think it would be cool to have it take place around the time of "Aliens" and have the marines stumble on to the Predator planet. WE could see a war between Predators and humans. Although it would be very hard to pull-off.

 

[Golgo-13]

I don't think Predator was all that original but it was very fun. A great film.

No disrespect to your opinion, but what other movie has the same premise as Predator?

Predator 2 is probably the most under-rated film ever. I saw it once years ago then again recently and don't remember what I had against it back in the day. Its a classic 80's action movie witch expands on the Predator universe.

It came out in the early 90's but what i was saying above was that it has that classic 80's action movie feel to it.( i grew up in he 80's)

Make no mistake every copy of AVP should be burned.

That is an interesting idea. I think it would be cool to have it take place around the time of "Aliens" and have the marines stumble on to the Predator planet. WE could see a war between Predators and humans. Although it would be very hard to pull-off.

Interesting.

 

[turtlefocker]

No disrespect to your opinion, but what other movie has the same premise as Predator?

The film to me felt very much like a combination of Rambo and Alien. If you were referring to the whole "hunters from another world come to hunt humans" then yews that was original.

It came out in the early 90's but what i was saying above was that it has that classic 80's action movie feel to it.( i grew up in he 80's)

This is what I meant also.

Interesting.

 

[CFE]

CFE

 

[Nathan]

Damn that idiot Anderson.

Here's an article on why they designed the face the way they did. In case you're interested.

 

[ShaneHelms]

t: Great part in Robocop 2

 

[turtlefocker]

I stopped reading at "romantic leading man"....

 

[Nathan]

Keep reading, it gets worse.

 

[turtlefocker]

"Every form of life on Earth, from bacteria to oak trees to people, is based on DNA. But DNA is far from the only solution to the chemistry problem of self-replicating molecules. Life that evolved elsewhere would certainly be based on different chemistry. What I&#8217;m getting at is the idea that a creature like this could have naturally evolved the ability to make use of alien biochemistry is out of the question. I&#8217;m not saying these monsters are impossible &#8211; I&#8217;m saying they can only be artificial. They were created by a culture with a very advanced understanding of extraterrestrial biology and genetic engineering."

-Kelly Parks

 

[Golgo-13]

I stopped reading at "romantic leading man"....

LOL!

And since when are the Predators herioc?

..Damn Anderson!

 

[Golgo-13]

From the article:

"The last thing we want is for fans to think we've ruined one of their favorite monsters in an effort to improve it."

 

[Nathan]

What I find hilarious is that Scar and the others killed humans left and right. Yet he isn't supposed to be a monster.

 

[turtlefocker]

"improve it."

If it ain't broken don't fix it..

 

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