A Case For Creation

[cass]

We arn't a religion.

According to some atheists, you are.

 

[Kritish]

According to some atheists, you are.

"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
--Don Hirschberg

 

[huskerwebhead]

According to some atheists, you are.

It's a belief, not a religion.

 

[cass]

"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
--Don Hirschberg

Oh no!!!!!!!!! The Great Don Hirschberg has spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kritish]

Godsmack : Bad Relgion

[Preacher:] The word of God says that we will recieve
praise of God. God will begin to speak forth, our
richiusness is of him, sayith the Lord
[Music Begins]

Get back

Can you feel Im not like you anymore.
I cant see,
I cant breathe.
See you quiver like the dogs on the street,
Looking down on as I beat you.
Oh, its a bad religion,
From a broken nation.
Its a contradiction,
And I cant take it anymore, yeah.
Whos ta say I wont like you anyway?
Take a deep breath,
Im alive.
Can you hear me,
Im alive inside you.
Agony creeps up behind you.
Oh, Its a bad religion (Bad religion)
From a broken nation (A broken nation)
Its a contradiction,
And I cant take it any ****ing more
Its a bad religion (bad religion, bad religion, bad religion)
From a broken nation (Broken nation)
Its a contradiction.
Yeah.
Can you feel it?

I gotta live with it everyday
And I cant take the pressure.
Im goin' insane,
Now go away

Go away

[Preacher:] Now you start praising God where ever you
are. I dont care where you are, I dont care what is
happening, just begin to praise God, just begin to
praise him and praise him and praise him and praise
him and worship him, and bless him... [Trails off]

 

[bored]

...And the intellectual value of this thread continues to plummet.

 

[sithgoblin]

According to some atheists, you are.

Atheism is a lack of religion and any religious views. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

 

[sithgoblin]

1. How are we supposed to discuss this new 'case for creationism' without reading the book? The synopsis tells us nothing; it offers no evidence at all.

2. The synopsis is stupid. Really stupid. Phrases like this: "For centuries scientists and philosophers have marveled at an eerie coincidence. Mathematics, a creation of human reason, can predict the nature of the universe"

It's not a coincidence. It's because mathematics is, and I quote, is "the logically rigorous study of topics such as quantity, structure, space, and change. Another view, held by many mathematicians, is that mathematics is the body of knowledge justified by deductive reasoning, starting from axioms and definitions". We developed mathematics to help us understand the f**king universe!

Then they go on to say that the Earth is so perfect for life, that it must have been intelligently designed. We have no idea if there are any other planets out there suitable for life. Saying earth is the only perfect place, and therefore there must be a god is a false premise. We already know there are planets outside out solar system, and that there are other sun-like planets, and that there is water on other worlds.

The authors make a bunch of vague claims that they won't be able to back up with any real evidence, and they charge you money for it. Great scam they've got going, considering how many religious people will jump at the chance of "proof".

 

[sithgoblin]

And considering that they have never found the "Missing Link" .....that transitional form from one species to another, this is an option worth exploring.

They've found several missing links. Several of them have even been posted here at the Hype.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227125

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226370

 

[ShadowBoxing]

8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god
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Oddly enough the trinity is abscent from the Bible itself. In fact it was created from my understand some few hundred years after. However it is quiet clear that Christians/Jewish peoples of the day when the Bible was written that they indeed did believe their God was not the only God. "You shall have no Gods before me" and "Thou shalt not carve idols" is a definite reference to the fact that there were, as they believed, other Gods.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Atheism - the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority.





Thanks Lackey!

LOL, that doesn't even make sense.

 

[celldog]

We arn't a religion.

Sure it is. It's a belief system. One that takes a lot more faith than mine.

 

[ampersand]

I can understand Atheism being called a religion. I would be more inclined to say that Atheism is a faith though.

 

[bored]

Atheism isn't a belief system, unless you want to be very technical about it, it's a generic term for a lack of belief in a supernatural deity. And people identify with it if they have trouble having the kind of faith you claim to.

 

[Kessel Day]

Atheism is a lack of religion and any religious views. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

i disagree, sithgoblin. surely atheists don't think they can prove there is no God. therefore, atheists' "belief" that there is no God is just that, a "belief".

 

[bored]

Atheists don't attempt to disprove God, as they don't see anything they consider proof of God's existence.

 

[Kessel Day]

Atheism isn't a belief system, unless you want to be very technical about it, it's a generic term for a lack of belief in a supernatural deity. And people identify with it if they have trouble having the kind of faith you claim to.

while an agnostic questions the existence of God, an atheist denies His existence and rejects all religious belief. (Webster's New World Dictionary)

a term for someone who does not accept a certain religious belief, may be an "unbeliever".

 

[celldog]

Atheism isn't a belief system, unless you want to be very technical about it, it's a generic term for a lack of belief in a supernatural deity. And people identify with it if they have trouble having the kind of faith you claim to.

You "believe" that there is no God. You've never seen a God to be able to say that. thus it takes a certain amount of faith.

The Christian, though he has not seen God either, takes the evidence of the order and balance of creation and has faith in the evidence that exists.


Both take faith.

I submit that it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian.

 

[Kessel Day]

Atheists don't attempt to disprove God, as they don't see anything they consider proof of God's existence.

people can "not see" anything they don't want to "see".

 

[Kessel Day]

You "believe" that there is no God. You've never seen a God to be able to say that. thus it takes a certain amount of faith.

The Christian, though he has not seen God either, takes the evidence of the order and balance of creation and has faith in the evidence that exists.


Both take faith.

I submit that it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian.

i totally agree with your statement that it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian, cd.

faith as defined in the Bible is not credulity. it is based on accurate knowledge of God and His Son, Jesus.

1 Tim 2:3,4 says "This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth."

it is a study of the Bible that brings us to that truth and is the basis of a Christian's faith.

 

[deemar325]

Halle Berry exsists

God is real.

 

[Kessel Day]

Oddly enough the trinity is abscent from the Bible itself. In fact it was created from my understand some few hundred years after. However it is quiet clear that Christians/Jewish peoples of the day when the Bible was written that they indeed did believe their God was not the only God. "You shall have no Gods before me" and "Thou shalt not carve idols" is a definite reference to the fact that there were, as they believed, other Gods.

"For even though there are those who are called "gods" whether in heaven or on earth just as there are many "gods" and many "lords" there is actually to us one God, the Father . . . and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ . . ." 1 Cor 8:5,6

 

[celldog]

You cannot get order from chaos unless a mind is guiding the chaos.....reigning it in to order and balance. All I continue to hear from you guys are insults and personal attacks. Answer this:

What are the chances of getting a loose jigsaw puzzle to fall into place if you throw it in the air? How many times would it take for each piece to land in its place???

See, that's what you guys are doing here. Somehow an explosion placed the the sun at the perfect temperature, the earth in just the right spot, the earth spinning yet tilting on its axis and orbiting the sun, the moon with enough magnetic pull to effect our tides. ....never moving out of place. Any closer we'd burn up....any further we freeze. This came from an explosion???
That puzzle was put together by someone. That whole scenario requires someone to put it all in place and maintain it.



THIS PICTURE WILL ANGER YOU GUYS!!

 

[celldog]

i totally agree with your statement that it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian, cd.

faith as defined in the Bible is not credulity. it is based on accurate knowledge of God and His Son, Jesus.

1 Tim 2:3,4 says "This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth."

it is a study of the Bible that brings us to that truth and is the basis of a Christian's faith.

Correct.

 

[ampersand]

Celldog, you brushed off the question last time, what Christian denomination do you practice?