Days of Future Past Actors from original trilogy on First Class sequel with Days of Future Past - Part 1

[EnDz0n3]

We don't know when Storm and Cyclops were recruited, so seeing them in the Cerebro montage in First Class is in no wise inconsistent with what we know.

But they wouldn't even be born in the 50's/60's. That's their whole argument for not using them as First Class in the first place. So there wouldn't even be a Cyclops or a Storm to show on a Cerebro montage in 1963!

I'm honestly starting to feel like people are deliberately looking for issues between FC and the OXT just so they can justify arguing for rebooting the franchise even though it's clear that FOX isn't interested in doing a reboot.

I had more issues with FC than simple continuity errors and most of it had to do with cheesy elements and bad acting. And none of those were brought up in this thread so please don't assume what people's intent are with their posts. I, myself, certainly don't want a reboot and I'm happy with X-men staying in Fox instead of the franchise having to compete for attention/time especially with Marvel having a full slate. And I wouldn't want a reboot either. I love the Original trilogy characters and the first two films.

 

[BMM]

No. They're just stating the obvious... Cyclops and Storm if ten years old (give or take a few years) in the 60s would have put them in there 40s in X1 and 50s now.....

Not only are the ages illogical, but if cyclops was 10-13 in the 60s then also maybe 17 in the 80s in xow (which actually would fit into the timeline)

Did the 70s not exist in the Xmen film series?????

Exactly what I was going to say. It doesn't lineup with the original trilogy, unless we're to believe Marsden is in his 50s, and it really doesn't lineup with X-Men Origins, unless Cyclops just doesn't age for 15 years.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ We don't know when they were born per the timeline of the films, though.

Speaking of which, First Class clearly shifted the timeline of the films relative to when we thought they were originally set, since, as per the timeline set up by First Class and, to a degree, The Last Stand, the OXT's films now likely take place more or less in the present relative to when they were released as opposed to being set in some nebulous ' not too distant future' as was originally perceived to be the case.

 

[Angamb]

I wonder who made the stupid decision to include those two cameos.

If Matthew, Lauren Donner or Fox.

didnt they think that fans would be pissed with the ages of the characters too?

I cant understand this people sometimes, ggg

 

[JP]

Sigh. Over 10 years and people still get horrendously up in arms over harmless 2 second nods/cameos.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

^ We don't know when they were born per the timeline of the films, though.

Speaking of which, First Class clearly shifted the timeline of the films relative to when we thought they were originally set, since, as per the timeline set up by First Class and, to a degree, The Last Stand, the OXT's films now likely take place more or less in the present relative to when they were released as opposed to being set in some nebulous ' not too distant future' as was originally perceived to be the case.

Umm they were at least born in the early 50s to be the age cerebro showed them in FC and the earliest X1 could have taken place is the 90s.... We know that much



They at least got cyclops's age right in XMOW

 

[Angamb]

First Class was released on 2011, not 10 years ago. movie decisions should be taken seriously, not just "to please some fans"

The characters, saga and fans deserve some respect, I think

 

[EnDz0n3]

Sigh. Over 10 years and people still get horrendously up in arms over harmless 2 second nods/cameos.

More like a cameo from 2 years ago

But you have to get where the fans are coming from though. Why use the obviously BS line that they can't use Cyclops, Storm (and Jean) as Original First Class X-men, and then show "2 second cameos" from obviously Cyclops and Storm especially when those two actors are pretty much the same ages as Havok and Banshee.

 

[JP]

More like a cameo from 2 years ago

How are the cameo complaints in First Class any different than the cameo complaints in every X-Men film since 2000?


As far as I'm concerned it's all baseless, pointless, and desperate to find something to ***** about. But that's just me.


Let's also start complaining about Stan Lee cameos! "OMG ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS ARE THE SAME EXACT GUY!!!! CONTINUITY RUINEDDDDDD!!!!"

 

[marvelrobbins]

It's not hard to Ignore a couple of 10 second appearances In Cerebro sequenze.

As for timeframe of films It;s fair to assume the trilogy Is now set to be viewed In mid 1990's.Bryan Singer said he worked backwords from the ages of patrick Stewert and Ian Mckellen to have Xavier and Magneto be iin Mid twenties in early 1960's.And they are around 60 or a little older In trilogy.

Although James marsden was younger In reality It's best to view Cyclops,Storm,and Jean all In their 30's In trilogy.That fits with a teenage Cyclops In late 1970's that was seen
In Origins.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I can't help it if i like my movies to make sense

 

[JP]

It's not hard to Ignore a couple of 10 second appearances In Cerebro sequenze.

But it's not even 10 seconds! It's less than 3. And its generally not the focus of a scene, and usually a background thing.

It's just a nod/wink. And when people view it as anything more it's just silly.

 

[BMM]

^ We don't know when they were born per the timeline of the films, though.

Speaking of which, First Class clearly shifted the timeline of the films relative to when we thought they were originally set, since, as per the timeline set up by First Class and, to a degree, The Last Stand, the OXT's films now likely take place more or less in the present relative to when they were released as opposed to being set in some nebulous ' not too distant future' as was originally perceived to be the case.

Yes, we do. First Class takes place in 1962. There is no debating that. Cyclops and Storm are at least 10-13 years old in the Cerebro sequence, meaning they would have been born in the early 1950s, at the latest. Beyond that, the rest of the films are filled with historical references, whether they be Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting in Vietnam, the Three Mile Island incident, Xavier telling Wolverine its been 15 years since he's been wandering around with no memory, a 50+ year old William Stryker making references to Vietnam and Senator Kelley "sucking on his mama's tit at Woodstock," or even NSYNC playing in Cyclops' car.

 

[The_Shadow]

But it's not even 10 seconds! It's less than 3. And its generally not the focus of a scene, and usually a background thing.

It's just a nod/wink. And when people view it as anything more it's just silly.

This right here

 

[EnDz0n3]

The difference is (IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO) they could have used Cyclops, Storm and Jean (and Beast) as part of the First Class. The difference is we would have had a better film, certainly better received by the fans. The difference is we would have had a bigger box office.

It's not hard to Ignore a couple of 10 second appearances In Cerebro sequenze.

But again: Why do it?? It certainly didn't benefit the films to have those 10 second cameos.

We are all fans of the films here (save for a few). We are all here to dissect every single frame of the film. I don't get the complaint of people complaining about a film we are dissecting.

I can't help it if i like my movies to make sense

HA! You're a hard man to please

 

[marvelrobbins]

How are the cameo complaints in First Class any different than the cameo complaints in every X-Men film since 2000?


As far as I'm concerned it's all baseless, pointless, and desperate to find something to ***** about. But that's just me.


Let's also start complaining about Stan Lee cameos! "OMG ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS ARE THE SAME EXACT GUY!!!! CONTINUITY RUINEDDDDDD!!!!"

You have to give filmmakers so leaway.If they aren't identiefied on screen by name,or credits or filmmakers don't identify them then easy to say they
aren't them.It's same as expecting X-men to follow everything ever said In dialogue about past nut many other tv shows and franchises don't.

We got news that Anna Paquin,ellen Page,and Shawn Ashmore are all coming back but some can't just be happy about that they have to push their wanting to wipe out most films and copy Star Trek 2009 agenda.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Umm they were at least born in the early 50s to be the age cerebro showed them in FC and the earliest X1 could have taken place is the 90s.... We know that much

So we're just ignoring "the not so distant future" caption these days?

 

[marvelrobbins]

But it's not even 10 seconds! It's less than 3. And its generally not the focus of a scene, and usually a background thing.

It's just a nod/wink. And when people view it as anything more it's just silly.

They were just easter eggs for fans.Just like In X2 the names on Stryker's
computers.

They were not listed In credits or identified as suck by anyone Involved with
production.

It's a pointless debate.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's not hard to Ignore a couple of 10 second appearances In Cerebro sequenze.

As for timeframe of films It;s fair to assume the trilogy Is now set to be viewed In mid 1990's.Bryan Singer said he worked backwords from the ages of patrick Stewert and Ian Mckellen to have Xavier and Magneto be iin Mid twenties in early 1960's.And they are around 60 or a little older In trilogy.

Although James marsden was younger In reality It's best to view Cyclops,Storm,and Jean all In their 30's In trilogy.That fits with a teenage Cyclops In late 1970's that was seen
In Origins.

Origins cyke was suppose to be in the 80s

 

[lordofthenerds]

They were just easter eggs for fans.Just like In X2 the names on Stryker's
computers.

Kind of funny that they didn't realize it would just piss the fans off.

I agree with you here though. It's easy to ignore, it doesn't really matter.

 

[JP]

They were just easter eggs for fans.Just like In X2 the names on Stryker's
computers.

They were not listed In credits or identified as suck by anyone Involved with
production.

It's a pointless debate.

Agreed.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I'm all for easter eggs! The more the merrier, I say!

But I don't think people are understanding my main gripe with having Cyclops and Storm cameo in FC.

Why say you can't use Cyclops, Storm and Jean as X-men when you just showed Cyclops and Storm as close to the same age as Havok and Banshee?

 

[marvelrobbins]

Origins cyke was suppose to be in the 80s

Origins main setpiece Is suspose to be set around 1979.

 

[DigificWriter]

People shouldn't be getting 'pissed off' by two minor cameos. That's just silly.

 

[JP]

I'm all for easter eggs! The more the merrier, I say!

But I don't think people are understanding my main gripe with having Cyclops and Storm cameo in FC.

Why say you can't use Cyclops, Storm and Jean as X-men when you just showed Cyclops and Storm as being the same age as Havok and Banshee?

For the reasons I already stated.

And Storm had a cameo, not Scott or Jean. People just assume the kid with black sunglasses is Scott, and the little Hispanic girl is Jean for no good reason at all.