After seeing FF:ROTSS, Do you think Tim Story deserves to do FF3?

[Tony Stark]

I expect this petty arrogance from snobby critics who think "Silver Surfer" is a silly concept but fans of the character should know better. Singer could've introduced Silver Surfer's bastard son and had him throw a piano at Galactus and all these Tim Story-haters would be saying Singer should get another 3 or 4 chances.

ROTFL!!!!

I can see it now:

Silver Surfer: I will no longer serve. Today will see the end of both you and I.

Galactus: WROOOOOONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[terry78]

Galactus - You are my herald until the end of time

*Surfer throws a piano at giant Galactus clould from off-screen*

 

[KangConquers]

Tim Story has ruined everything he's touched; Doctor Doom, Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Galactus....All ruined by his lack of direction.

Tim Story is a hack.

 

[terry78]

Tim Story has ruined everything he's touched; Doctor Doom, Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Galactus....All ruined by his lack of direction.

Tim Story is a hack.

Didn't you already respond in this thread? Are you just trying to remind us?

 

[KangConquers]

Didn't you already respond in this thread? Are you just trying to remind us?

I have alzheimer's.

No, I forgot I responded...it bares repeating though.

 

[coreymb16]

I have alzheimer's.

No, I forgot I responded...it bares repeating though.

Now, I hope you remember this time.lol.

 

[chaseter]

You must skip this thread, then. Try reading what it is about before start this silly "whining" teasing, will you?

I put in my two cents at the beginning of this thread and to why Tim deserves another chance. But its ridiculous to say he will make the third movie crappy when it doesn't even exist yet...that is idiotic. Sure it is great to mention directors you think might do a great job...but bashing Tim for a movie that isn't even greenlight yet is dumb. You can point out his mistakes in the first two all you want...but saying his third movie will be trash is deluted fanboy whining. Lets wait and see if it is greenlight, how much budget it gets, and plot and character reviews before we start getting so critical shall we

 

[X-Maniac]

I think Tim should continue. He has built on the first movie tremendously. We all know what happens when directors change - fans freak out and start screaming 'inconsistency' etc.

The thing is - how many FF movies do they do? I wouldn't want them to cram everything else into a third movie.

Inhumans, Franklin, Annihilus, Negative Zone, Puppet Master, Namor... far too much for a third movie. Let's forget Namor for now, as his rights belong to another studio. Puppet Master could come across as a bit hokey and hammy.

Plus, Doom needs to be featured probably...

There's a lot to consider, but I'd rather the same director. If anything, it's the editing that was 'off', not the directing.

 

[Noir]

I loved the movie but I still wish they'd get a better director, I don't believe Story has Talent.

 

[Mercurius]

I put in my two cents at the beginning of this thread and to why Tim deserves another chance. But its ridiculous to say he will make the third movie crappy when it doesn't even exist yet...that is idiotic. Sure it is great to mention directors you think might do a great job...but bashing Tim for a movie that isn't even greenlight yet is dumb. You can point out his mistakes in the first two all you want...but saying his third movie will be trash is deluted fanboy whining. Lets wait and see if it is greenlight, how much budget it gets, and plot and character reviews before we start getting so critical shall we

I didn't say it WILL be crap, my poor and dedicated Story fan. Never a bad director had such a dedicated henchman. It's ok, go for it.

I was just answering the question by saying: the guy doesn't know anything about cinema nor about the FF, so let's give another director a chance.

It doesn't need too much effort to notice the question: it is right above the posts.

 

[chaseter]

I didn't say it WILL be crap, my poor and dedicated Story fan. Never a bad director had such a dedicated henchman. It's ok, go for it.

I was just answering the question by saying: the guy doesn't know anything about cinema nor about the FF, so let's give another director a chance.

It doesn't need too much effort to notice the question: it is right above the posts.

No I wasn't pointing you out personally...I was just responding to your previous post. I think Story deserves another chance given the films are improving. I would not be against a new director at all, I just think it is idiotic for people on here to say FF3 will suck because Tim Story is the director. I also think it is quiet crazy to say this director would be better but that transition doesn't always bode well. I was excited for Singer to do SR but we all know how well that went. I think as Tim fits into the niche he is creating and looking at the critiques he is given, his next film will improve.

 

[thegameq]

Like the X-franchise, we are stuck with this director, studio and vision for quite a while unfortunately...thanks Marvel, thanks alot.

Story was basically an inexpensive director to direct a "make-a-buck" film for Fox. Fox doesn't have any grand intentions for any of these properties other than to churn out safe, profitable films. I suggest we stop expecting great things from their comicbook film efforts.

Should Story return? Probably. We all know what happens when a new director comes along so there's no point in really going that route. Might as well let Tim finish what he started. The films can only get better...depends of course on how much play Fox gives Story's leash. That said, expect more of the same "fun", "family" excuse--I mean approach.

In an ideal world we would have gotten a "real" FF franchise along the lines of the Incredibles, both visually and style wise. The coming of Galactus would have been a breath taking experience on the big screen, simply stunning.

Oh well.....like the X-franchise, the quicker we get this franchise over with the sooner we can start to look forward to a superior treatment of the FF on film...if Marvel ever gets the rights back that is.

 

[M.O.Steel]

yes...i really enjoy them because they are very down-to-earth (and i use that term loosely), and they don't take themselves too seriously. I can understand a FF fan not liking them, but i personally think they are very enjoyable and fun to watch. I hope he does continue.

 

[Agent 194]

I will say this, as many have alluded to, Story's vision isn't exactly what I would like to see in a FF movie but, I would hate to see what happened to X-men 3. Granted he was given very little preparation time, but his cartoonish, crude direction really put a sour note on that trilogy. And even given a new director I don't think he/she would stray too much from what's already been laid out in the first two movies.

 

[terry78]

Be honest though. If you are Tim Story and Fox comes to you and is like, "you wants to direct the Fantastic Four?" you ain't gonna say no. None of us would, regardless if we feel we have the talent or not. Everybody thinks they have the talent. I may read all the venom spewed my way after the fact, but that comes with the job. If you think a director would say, "I'd love to, but I feel that someone with more experience should take this franchise on", you are nucking futs. That's basically admitting you don't have the cajones for the job.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

FOX has the option to not invite him back however. And there wouldn't be a damn thing he could say about it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Be honest though. If you are Tim Story and Fox comes to you and is like, "you wants to direct the Fantastic Four?" you ain't gonna say no. None of us would, regardless if we feel we have the talent or not. Everybody thinks they have the talent. I may read all the venom spewed my way after the fact, but that comes with the job. If you think a director would say, "I'd love to, but I feel that someone with more experience should take this franchise on", you are nucking futs. That's basically admitting you don't have the cajones for the job.

If the script sucked, I'd never do it unless I was allowed to improve it. I would never do something I don't believe in, which is why I am studying to be a teacher, and not going to law school (though many have been pushing me to do so).

 

[thegameq]

Be honest though. If you are Tim Story and Fox comes to you and is like, "you wants to direct the Fantastic Four?" you ain't gonna say no. None of us would, regardless if we feel we have the talent or not. Everybody thinks they have the talent. I may read all the venom spewed my way after the fact, but that comes with the job. If you think a director would say, "I'd love to, but I feel that someone with more experience should take this franchise on", you are nucking futs. That's basically admitting you don't have the cajones for the job.

Yes, but at what career risk? If you make a bad film, you damage your reputation as a filmaker and any possibly any credentials you have. In Story's case, as in many other lesser directors, he may have the box office numbers to point to, but he may develop the rep of a director who churns out above average to mediocre to bad films. This is Michael Bay and Brett Ratner territory. They believe their films are truly good and the box office results prove it. But neither have done anything worthy of being called a great film. The proof is in the pudding.

I guess it depends on Tim's goals as a director: be a great director, thus possibly using FF as a stepping stone to do so (I ain't justifying it). Or: pay the bills and just be grateful for the opportunity and the life he has (way to many directors in that category).

Unfortunately, as someone else said, the FF gets the shaft during Story's learning process, which is unacceptable.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Does anyone know the details of Fox's rights to the property? Do the rights revert back to Marvel after the third film, for example?

I think the biggest problem with getting a new director is: Who would Fox hire? I don't think Fox is going to fire Tim Story and then hire Peter Jackson.

Of the top five directors I'd like to see take over, I'd say the chances of Fox hiring any of them are just about zero.

 

[Kelly]

Does anyone know the details of Fox's rights to the property? Do the rights revert back to Marvel after the third film, for example?

I think the biggest problem with getting a new director is: Who would Fox hire? I don't think Fox is going to fire Tim Story and then hire Peter Jackson.

Of the top five directors I'd like to see take over, I'd say the chances of Fox hiring any of them are just about zero.

Have no clue where I read it, but I read that they had the option of 4 movies that had to be made by 2012.....but I could be totally wrong....

 

[blind_fury]

Unfortunately, as someone else said, the FF gets the shaft during Story's learning process, which is unacceptable.

FF did not get the shaft? FF2 is a solid movie and one of Marvels better films.

Where do you think Singer is in the learning process? Because he "shafted" Superman even though he's considered a masterful director by fanboys. Go figure.

 

[Agent 194]

i think they're fun films. This is Story's (and evidently alot of Fox brass) vision of FF. Is it what I'd like to see? Not exactly, but then Incredibles kind of stole all the retro future thunder this movie should have had. And that by the way is the least of my concerns.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

If Story returns I'm pretty sure i'm not gonna see a FF movie as long as I live. The relationships and humours were played out and the charm of it was gone when I saw FF2. On the first flick everybody in the theatre was having fun and laughing. On this one all I heard was a few snikers. Sure SS rocked but was so under-developped that he was just big tease for a SS movie down the line.

My hate for FOX and Tim Story knowns no bounds. And what a terrible bunch of actors.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Have no clue where I read it, but I read that they had the option of 4 movies that had to be made by 2012.....but I could be totally wrong....

Thanks! So if that's right, Marvel could get the rights in a (relatively) short time if Fox decides not to do more sequels.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Actually, I think it works just like X-Men does to where they just need to get a third movie out to extend the rights.

Just like Wolverine, a SS movie would count under the contract. At least, I remember AD saying all this to me.