Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 1

[gurkle2]

Here's how I see the Quicksilver thing: I don't know if I'll like it, but I understand it. An important part of what makes Wanda interesting is that she starts as part of a brother-sister team and moves beyond that. In the comics, this was achieved by giving her a romance with Vision. But it doesn't look like this film will have time to start that (plus, defining a woman by her relationships with men is not quite as common now as it was in 1970).

I have no doubt that Whedon is more interested in Wanda, because she's a powerful woman and because when he was reading the Avengers in the late '70s, Wanda was much more prominent in the team than Pietro was. It does make sense that he'd want to focus on her growth as a character. And in a movie that's packed with characters and not all that long, it has to be done in the quickest way possible.

 

[PyroChamber]

I really want to see what Wanda's new outfit will look like.

 

[terry78]

And with IW coming up down the line, you know he'll be back. Universe reboot will be in play obviously.

 

[Darkraid]

Here's how I see the Quicksilver thing: I don't know if I'll like it, but I understand it. An important part of what makes Wanda interesting is that she starts as part of a brother-sister team and moves beyond that. In the comics, this was achieved by giving her a romance with Vision. But it doesn't look like this film will have time to start that (plus, defining a woman by her relationships with men is not quite as common now as it was in 1970).

I have no doubt that Whedon is more interested in Wanda, because she's a powerful woman and because when he was reading the Avengers in the late '70s, Wanda was much more prominent in the team than Pietro was. It does make sense that he'd want to focus on her growth as a character. And in a movie that's packed with characters and not all that long, it has to be done in the quickest way possible.

Not a good excuse to kill off a good character with decades of history.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Everyone salivated over every Vision detail now it's turned. I find that funny

 

[gurkle2]

Not a good excuse to kill off a good character with decades of history.

I didn't say it was a good thing, but I do think it's important that Wanda be allowed to develop her own personality separate from Pietro (who always has more of a distinctive personality at first). Maybe this is the wrong way to go about it and there's a way they could have done it without sacrificing the character. But then I'm not writing the movie. And of course they do have the option of bringing him back if they want.

 

[MCU4Life26]

Do Bruce and Natasha Kiss or is it just teased

 

[spideyboy_1111]

... so this page moves to quick...

where does this film leave thor?

 

[TheVileOne]

Can't Roger Wardell get banned from Twitter because all the garbage he wrote about the film was wrong?

 

[Jordanstine]

Coulson dies in Avengers 1

Quicksilver dies in Avengers 2

Since the stakes keep getting bigger and bigger... who's Marvel killing off in Avengers 3 and Avengers 4?

It'll suck to take my kid to see Avengers, and him asking me "why do Superheroes die"?

 

[TheVileOne]

Keep in mind that Captain America is dying in Civil War. That's how it goes. Thanos is probably going to kill all the Avengers at least a dozen times and constantly revive them because he is a self-defeatist and deep down he hates himself and doesn't want to win.

 

[Jordanstine]

Keep in mind that Captain America is dying in Civil War. That's how it goes. Thanos is probably going to kill all the Avengers at least a dozen times and constantly revive them because he is a self-defeatist and deep down he hates himself and doesn't want to win.

He's my son's favorite hero too.

Oh man, story is going to be good, but this is going to break my kid's heart!

 

[Pond]

http://mentalfloss.com/article/6312...g-characters-and-existing-outside-pop-culture


People don’t really stay dead in Marvel movies. I think we’ve had to deal with Loki dying four, five, 12 times. Coulson coming back. Fury comes back mid-film in Captain America: The Winter Soldier ... How many more times do you think a character’s death can have an impact if it doesn’t have a permanent effect?


Whedon: A lot of people come back in The Winter Soldier. It’s a grand Marvel tradition. Bucky was supposed to die. And the Coulson thing was, I think, a little anomalous just because that really came from the television division, which is sort of considered to be its own subsection of the Marvel universe. As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead.
But I have to say, watching the first one with my kids—I had not watched the first one since it came out—and then watching it with my kids and watching Coulson die but [thinking], “Yeah, but I know that he kind of isn’t,” it did take some of the punch out of it for me. Of course, I spent a lot of time making sure he didn’t. And at the time it seemed inoffensive, as long as it wasn’t referenced in the second movie, which it isn’t.
There’s a thing where you can do that so many times and there’s nothing at stake. But it’s difficult because you’re living in franchise world—not just Marvel, but in most big films—where you can’t kill anyone, or anybody significant. And now I find myself with a huge crew of people and, although I’m not as bloodthirsty as some people like to pretend, I think it’s disingenuous to say we’re going to fight this great battle, but there’s not going to be any loss. So my feeling in these situations with Marvel is that if somebody has to be placed on the altar and sacrificed, I’ll let you guys decide if they stay there.

 

[MCU4Life26]

Do Bruce and Natasha Kiss or is it just teased

 

[sergeantbucky]

DarkPhoenix confirmed Nat and Bruce kiss before the final battle

 

[sleekstereo]

Only if you've not read classic Avengers.

So you think Scarlet Witch has richer relationship to the X-Men than Quicksilver has them? That is what I am referring too. We know that they both have strong relationships with the Avengers. But if its out of Scarlet and Quicksilver with the X-Men? Quicksilver has more story than her there.

 

[Darkraid]

Keep in mind that Captain America is dying in Civil War. That's how it goes. Thanos is probably going to kill all the Avengers at least a dozen times and constantly revive them because he is a self-defeatist and deep down he hates himself and doesn't want to win.

Cap dying in CW is pretty much guaranteed.

I wonder if will he come back for IW?

Maybe Thor finds QS and Cap in Valhalla when Thor himself dies and they fight their way out of Valhalla.

 

[Blade X]

http://mentalfloss.com/article/6312...g-characters-and-existing-outside-pop-culture


People don’t really stay dead in Marvel movies. I think we’ve had to deal with Loki dying four, five, 12 times. Coulson coming back. Fury comes back mid-film in Captain America: The Winter Soldier ... How many more times do you think a character’s death can have an impact if it doesn’t have a permanent effect?


Whedon: A lot of people come back in The Winter Soldier. It’s a grand Marvel tradition. Bucky was supposed to die. And the Coulson thing was, I think, a little anomalous just because that really came from the television division, which is sort of considered to be its own subsection of the Marvel universe. As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead.
But I have to say, watching the first one with my kids—I had not watched the first one since it came out—and then watching it with my kids and watching Coulson die but [thinking], “Yeah, but I know that he kind of isn’t,” it did take some of the punch out of it for me. Of course, I spent a lot of time making sure he didn’t. And at the time it seemed inoffensive, as long as it wasn’t referenced in the second movie, which it isn’t.

There’s a thing where you can do that so many times and there’s nothing at stake. But it’s difficult because you’re living in franchise world—not just Marvel, but in most big films—where you can’t kill anyone, or anybody significant. And now I find myself with a huge crew of people and, although I’m not as bloodthirsty as some people like to pretend, I think it’s disingenuous to say we’re going to fight this great battle, but there’s not going to be any loss. So my feeling in these situations with Marvel is that if somebody has to be placed on the altar and sacrificed, I’ll let you guys decide if they stay there.

So in other words, it's just like I said. If QS proves to be very popular with the general movie audience he will be resurrected just like Coulson was.

 

[TheVileOne]

Here is what I want to know, does anyone say Avengers Assemble before they go into battle?

 

[sergeantbucky]

Here is what I want to know, does anyone say Avengers Assemble before they go into battle?

not to my knowledge.

DarkPhoenix said that they show the clip where Cap says "Avengers, at the end of the movie" he looks like he's about to say 'assemble,' and it cuts to the credits

 

[sergeantbucky]

Maybe Thor finds QS and Cap in Valhalla when Thor himself dies and they fight their way out of Valhalla.

that would be pretty badass, imo

 

[AgentGojiraRgr]

I wanna know what the animated credits sequence at the end of the film is themed after.

The only Phase Two film to not have one so far is GotG

 

[KINGTHANOS]

In the mid-credits scene, is Thanos actually talking to someone when he says his line?

Apparently not, he just says, "Guess I'll do it myself" or something to that nature. It definitely sounds out of character for him to say. It would be better if they worded it differently, like "Perhaps I'll take matters into my own hands".

 

[Spiderine]

Apparently not, he just says, "Guess I'll do it myself" or something to that nature. It definitely sounds out of character for him to say. It would be better he they worded it differently, like "Perhaps I'll take matters into my own hands".

This Thanos doesn't sound to bright anyways. I mean he gives Loki an Infinity Stone risking it being stolen or lost to some other entity. Dumb move by the most powerful being in the universe. Now he has to get that one back too.

 

[KINGTHANOS]

This Thanos doesn't sound to bright anyways. I mean he gives Loki an Infinity Stone risking it being stolen or lost to some other entity. Dumb move by the most powerful being in the universe. Now he has to get that one back too.

I just hope that whomever writes him going forward really gets the character. Gunn certainly did with the scripting in GOTG, so hopefully he writes him going forward. I'm not sure if the Russos are even fans of Thanos? Has anyone heard anything about that?