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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of Shield has turned a new leaf

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In the past two weeks I've binge-watched the first 15 or 16 episodes of season 2. I was a big critic of this show in season 1, and I thought the first half of season 2 was nonsensical as well, with a lot of dumb lines like someone saying that Morocco is a middle eastern country, or Fitz saying "Corpse Diem, seize the dead", or Faro, Portugal being portrayed as a Mexican town. Agent Tripp was really poorly written.

With that said I think the second half is showing improvement. I like the show now. The improvements, imo:

1) Edward James Olmos. He's a good actor, and he brings an intensity to the show in his performance that Clark Gregg could never bring. It feels like they're doing something important in managing SHIELD, that it's not just a summer camp for adults.

2) Agent Tripp died. He was comprehensively uninteresting. Good riddance.

3) Skye's parents. They set up this nonsense mystery in season 1, but they've redeemed themselves by bringing in good, serious actors for the roles.

4) Inhumans are more interesting than Hydra. I found Hydra very uninteresting in Cap 2, in AoS season 1, and in AoS season 2. This is an organization with no ideology, no rituals, and they somehow control everything. In AoS season 2 it was a bunch of losers sitting around a table.

Marvel has clearly modelled Hydra after "The Syndicate" from The X-Files, but it's a poor man's version of the Syndicate. I never had any trouble believing that the Syndicate was pulling all the strings, but when I see the losers of Hydra rule the world I just shake my head.

The same is not true of the Inhumans. First of all they don't rule the world. Second, their status and success is already decently explained in a coherent manner. They have that teleportation guy who can safeguard people and thus keep their location secret. They have that woman who lives for (hundreds?) of years which gives their organization continuity. They have a system of beliefs, you could call it a religion, which allows them to maintain a sense of community with one another, in addition to being linked by a shared biology and rituals. As a community, they work, they make sense. I also want to know more because they tie into deeper Marvel mythology, with the Kree and such.
 
I found Hydra very uninteresting in Cap 2, in AoS season 1, and in AoS season 2. This is an organization with no ideology, no rituals, and they somehow control everything. In AoS season 2 it was a bunch of losers sitting around a table.

Rituals? They're not a cult. And their ideology is quite simple.

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I don't agree with much of what you said, but glad you like it now I guess...
 
I couldn't get past the first season, but i have heard people who disliked the first season that it does get significantly better.
 
The first season sucked big time. But I stuck with it and glad I did. It has done a complete 180.
 
The first season did not suck AND IT WAS A GREAT FIRST SEASON.
It was much better then first season of start trek the next generation.

Most or all the episodes in the last half were great and first half had some great episodes and good or very good episodes.
 
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I feel the exact opposite.

Season 1, while starting off slow, really shined with the HYDRA conspiracy and the collapse of SHIELD. Plus, the "Agents on the run" angle while being hunted by Talbot was pretty awesome.

Then Season 2 came, and the first couple episodes were good, tying back to Season 1 and The Winter Soldier, but it very quickly dropped right off the cliff with this whole Inhumans (Poor Man's X-Men) nonsense and SHIELD seemingly transitioning in their role as...SHIELD...more into the role of the Mutant Response Division.

If they want to do X-Men, then cut a dang deal with Fox or whoever holds the rights, and do an X-Men show. Otherwise, boot the Inhumans off screen as quick as possible, and get back to doing the things SHIELD normally does, like the advance work against HYDRA or AIM in prep for the Avengers to move in and mop up.

Oh, and for the love of Crom get some dang Avengers or other ancilliary characters on screen, like Falcon, War Machine, Hawkeye, Black Widow or Cap. Stop dancing around the outer edges of the Cinematic Universe that props up your show, and start leveraging it!
 
We agree to disagree. I know I'm not the only one who felt like that and the ratings drop is proof. There were tons of people who wanted to like the show but just couldn't because it was really bad. I just happened to stick around like others have and it paid off.
 
I also must say that I don't like the direction SHIELD is heading. I really enjoyed the second half of S1 and first of S2. But now, it's all about these obscure Inhuman characters (Gordon is about the only cool one of them; Jiaying, Lincoln & co are plain boring), and the great additions of this season (Trip, Bobbi and Lance) are either already dead or doomed to leave if we believe the spin-off rumours.
Ward and Kara's plot seems to be going nowhere, and letting HYDRA be finished basically off-screen (in AOU) seems rather odd. Also, why kill Bakshi?
 
I feel the exact opposite.

Season 1, while starting off slow, really shined with the HYDRA conspiracy and the collapse of SHIELD. Plus, the "Agents on the run" angle while being hunted by Talbot was pretty awesome.

Then Season 2 came, and the first couple episodes were good, tying back to Season 1 and The Winter Soldier, but it very quickly dropped right off the cliff with this whole Inhumans (Poor Man's X-Men) nonsense and SHIELD seemingly transitioning in their role as...SHIELD...more into the role of the Mutant Response Division.

If they want to do X-Men, then cut a dang deal with Fox or whoever holds the rights, and do an X-Men show. Otherwise, boot the Inhumans off screen as quick as possible, and get back to doing the things SHIELD normally does, like the advance work against HYDRA or AIM in prep for the Avengers to move in and mop up.

Oh, and for the love of Crom get some dang Avengers or other ancilliary characters on screen, like Falcon, War Machine, Hawkeye, Black Widow or Cap. Stop dancing around the outer edges of the Cinematic Universe that props up your show, and start leveraging it!

inhuman poor man's x men? i disagree with you. the Inhuman story line is brilliant. you should read up on it.
 
I still have a bit more fondness for the first season,I suppose. The innocence of it all. But things have to move on. I really feel this season was the show's Empire Strikes Back to last season's A New Hope. I hope next season is it's Return of the Jedi.:woot:
 
The first season did not suck AND IT WAS A GREAT FIRST SEASON.
It was much better then first season of start trek the next generation.

Most or all the episodes in the last half were great and first half had some great episodes and good or very good episodes.

Agreed! Once I started watching season 1, I couldn't stop. I found the first half of the season just as good as the last.
 
Yeah, they really found their stride. It's a better show than most think.
 
Yeah, they really found their stride. It's a better show than most think.

The show still needs to improve though!
However, with the inhumans and the up coming Civil War - The show has the opportunity to be clearly the best superhero show on regular tv.
Be in no doubt most people are not interested in SHIELD they want to see a corner of the Marvel Universe with superpowered people. Finally, the show is moving in that direction.
 
The show still needs to improve though!
However, with the inhumans and the up coming Civil War - The show has the opportunity to be clearly the best superhero show on regular tv.
Be in no doubt most people are not interested in SHIELD they want to see a corner of the Marvel Universe with superpowered people. Finally, the show is moving in that direction.

Not interested in SHIELD? I don't understand. The show is about the agents of SHIELD. Only people who don't care to watch the show aren't interested in SHIELD. :huh:
 
Not interested in SHIELD? I don't understand. The show is about the agents of SHIELD. Only people who don't care to watch the show aren't interested in SHIELD. :huh:

People want to see SHIELD interacting with superpowered people more than they want to see SHIELD politics
 
People want to see SHIELD interacting with superpowered people more than they want to see SHIELD politics

Ah, I see.

Well, looks like they will considering Skye's transformation and the possible return of Lincoln.
 
Ah, I see.

Well, looks like they will considering Skye's transformation and the possible return of Lincoln.

Yeah, he is most likely coming back. I'm still waiting for Skye and Lincoln to shag. Marvel teased it near the end of season 1, but nothing happened.
 
I feel the exact opposite.

Season 1, while starting off slow, really shined with the HYDRA conspiracy and the collapse of SHIELD. Plus, the "Agents on the run" angle while being hunted by Talbot was pretty awesome.

Then Season 2 came, and the first couple episodes were good, tying back to Season 1 and The Winter Soldier, but it very quickly dropped right off the cliff with this whole Inhumans (Poor Man's X-Men) nonsense and SHIELD seemingly transitioning in their role as...SHIELD...more into the role of the Mutant Response Division.

If they want to do X-Men, then cut a dang deal with Fox or whoever holds the rights, and do an X-Men show. Otherwise, boot the Inhumans off screen as quick as possible, and get back to doing the things SHIELD normally does, like the advance work against HYDRA or AIM in prep for the Avengers to move in and mop up.

Oh, and for the love of Crom get some dang Avengers or other ancilliary characters on screen, like Falcon, War Machine, Hawkeye, Black Widow or Cap. Stop dancing around the outer edges of the Cinematic Universe that props up your show, and start leveraging it!



AGREED
But its going to take the Marvel movie universe to stop ignoring AoS and get something done to merge the movie viewers with the TV viewers
 

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