Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - Part 2

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Whedonesque is saying that David Straiton is directing episode 2. He's worked on alot of different shows, but the one that sticks out to me is Fringe. He directed "Peter" in season 2 and the episode in Season 5 where Etta was killed. :up:
 
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I wonder if they might ever put any of the Marvel filmmakers to good use directing episodes of the show. Given their backgrounds, I could see the Russo brothers and Alan Taylor joining in at some point. Maybe James Gunn even, since he's a friend of Joss.
 
I wonder if they might ever put any of the Marvel filmmakers to good use directing episodes of the show. Given their backgrounds, I could see the Russo brothers and Alan Taylor joining in at some point. Maybe James Gunn even, since he's a friend of Joss.

I saw a D23 interview with the Russo brothers where they said they'd love to, but they're too busy finishing up CA:TWS right now. That's promising for the future, though.
 
Clark Gregg has directed a couple of films. Perhaps he'll be given a shot at directing on S.H.I.E.L.D.
 
If they're waiting on Dr. Strange to do magic, I hope they tie Thor more into the magic scene afterward too. I mean, the fact that gods exist seems like it should be enough to cover magic already, but I know some people still cling to that "they're just aliens" nonsense.

Its hardly nonsense. They *are* aliens. They are just also gods. The two are unrelated matters; one is a matter of where you live, the other is a matter how other people treat you.

As for more magic from Asgard, I'm game, but don't expect it to be the "eye of newt" variety. Magic to the Asgardians is clearly something they understand well enough to strip out all the superstitious nonsense and freely intermix with their other forms of science.
 
hope to heck Strange is connected to Thor more, I don't know how to explain it but it fits to that part of the MCU.
It just seems that not only by magic, but the style.

I don't know. Dr Strange doesn't work quite as well with the "technomagic" aesthetic. While I am all for Strange's sorcery being something that advanced science ( ala Asgard ) can eventually theoretically understand, I don't want the plot to spend all its time using technobabble.

If I had to design a model for it, I'd steal from the old Marvel Adventure Game the system of Internal vs Universal vs Dimensional magic.

-Internal magic is basically psychic phenomenon, powered by your own mind and body. Any ritual or components are basically psychosomatic crutches.

-Universal magic involves manipulating various exotic natural forces and laws using the methods of Internal magic as your tools. Produces much larger and more potent effects than Internal magic, but also is *much* harder to do. Ritual or components here have real effects, usually dependent on exotic properties and geometries.

-Dimensional magic involves, basically, contacting sentient entities and asking for help. Produces extremely large and potent effects, potentially. . . but also involves indebting yourself to powerful beings. Ritual or component here are symbolic but still necessary, as they derive from the arbitrary preferences of whoever your trying to entreat.

It has the advantage of avoiding my "magic randomly causes anybody wearing a labcoat to go stupid" pet peeve, while also adequately explaining why modern science hasn't discovered any of this ( "you don't have the tools to see or manipulate any of this easily unless your already psychically active *and* mystically trained" puts a serious roadblock in study ), and giving good reason for a proper high wizardry aesthetic.
 
Its hardly nonsense. They *are* aliens. They are just also gods. The two are unrelated matters; one is a matter of where you live, the other is a matter how other people treat you.

As for more magic from Asgard, I'm game, but don't expect it to be the "eye of newt" variety. Magic to the Asgardians is clearly something they understand well enough to strip out all the superstitious nonsense and freely intermix with their other forms of science.

While I might not see eye-to-eye with you on all things magic (and no hard feelings, btw), I can get on board with both parts of this post. I think the way Asgardian magic has been handled so far is pretty in-line with Thor's early appearances in the comics.

I would like to see more of the supernatural element explored in the MCU, though, so I can't wait for Dr. Strange. And I wouldn't mind if Thor: The Dark World uses Jane's presence in Asgard to further explore the magic/science dynamic that was established in the first film.

As for Agents of SHIELD, I do hope that they widen the scope in later seasons (as I've said before), but that doesn't take away from my considerable excitement for this show!
 
I feel like they're waiting for Doc Strange to introduce the really overt supernatural elements. At some point the 'll have to. I mean they have Ghost Rider back, are they going to explain him away as advanced science when they use him? Of course not.
 
There is a limit to what can be said on network TV, unlike cable or the films. Even in Iron Man 3, Feige had to constantly remind Shane Black that of the limits to swearing in a PG-13 movie. On network TV, I think they're limited to damn, hell, ass, the two b-words, and that's it. The Whedons will make the dialog realistic even without dropping F-bombs all over the place.
By using Chinese?
 
haha I really like in the trailer how Coulson walks out of the shadows to reveal he's still alive and he's like "Sorry, that corner is really dark. I couldn't resist" haha! I love the humor of the show alreayd.
 
After seeing the Agent Carter One Shot on the site that shall not be named there NEEDS to be a "Origins" episode involving Peggy and Howard, just so we can get more Atwell
 
So considering on how “The Winter Soldier” deals heavily with the logistics and inner circles of “SHIELD” on a large scale notion, is it safe to presume that the events of that film will have a impact on the characters in this film?

Assuming if the show’s season finale takes place in Early May, or late April, it’ll still probably come out not long after the release of “Winter Soldier”, so I’m curious if they’ll try to tie it into the film’s release, etc.

Any thoughts?
 
Maybe. So long as the show doesn't become a hype machine for the next movie release, I'm okay with tie-ins (hell, it's essential for a connected universe). I have no doubt they'll be smart with the references.
 
True, but given on how the very foundations of their organization is likely to be rocked and nearly shattered from a potential civil war taking place among its ranking officers, I can’t see on how the agents involved in this show won’t be affected in a major way.

Heck, I’m wondering if it’ll be because of all of this that leads to Coulson learning about the supposed mysterious circumstances revolving around his miraculous “resurrection” as well.

I’m kind of hoping that they also give some nods in people having been assigned to look into the Extermis situation since I highly doubt that SHIELD would have turned a blind eye to the Mandarin problem and considering on how the explosions caused by the extremis virus were things that no one could explain until Iron Man figured it out, it'd be nice to see some agents to be shown looking into that as well.
 
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The Agent Coulson featurette.

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Phil's Neo moment is at :48. :awesome:
 
True, but given on how the very foundations of their organization is likely to be rocked and nearly shattered from a potential civil war taking place among its ranking officers, I can’t see on how the agents involved in this show won’t be affected in a major way.

Heck, I’m wondering if it’ll be because of all of this that leads to Coulson learning about the supposed mysterious circumstances revolving around his miraculous “resurrection” as well.

I’m kind of hoping that they also give some nods in people having been assigned to look into the Extermis situation since I highly doubt that SHIELD would have turned a blind eye to the Mandarin problem and considering on how the explosions caused by the extremis virus were things that no one could explain until Iron Man figured it out, it'd be nice to see some agents to be shown looking into that as well.

I thought it was confirmed that the first season dealt with them going after some people with Extremis? I'm guessing that it leads to the whole "unregistered gifted" thing.
 
I thought it was confirmed that the first season dealt with them going after some people with Extremis? I'm guessing that it leads to the whole "unregistered gifted" thing.

J. August Richards' character is one of the Extremis subjects. A scientist who worked on the serum also appears in the pilot.
 
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