The Dark Knight AICN: Costume change happens ON camera?

[batmanbeginsboy]

hell no. hes got grey and black, i like the costume needs to be all black.

 

[Darkest Knight]

I don't like the material used for that costume. And to me that grey is too close to white. Much to bright for my tastes.

 

[The Only Woj]

why don't we ask someone who made a begins style suit to wear spandex over top to see how that looks

 

[Miranda Fox]

And let's remember, we're talking about clasps. 99.3% of people who will ever watch Batman Begins won't even notice them.

Hell, I never gave them a moment's though until I came to SHH and saw people making a fuss...over clasps and...yeah.

Just to clarify - I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting the suit to be impoved and certainly it can and should be improved for TDK, as Batman is developing. However, I have to completely agree that some people just seem to complain for the sake of it and that is neither constructive nor helpful.

 

[itsthebatman]

Hell, I never gave them a moment's though until I came to SHH and saw people making a fuss...over clasps and...yeah.

Just to clarify - I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting the suit to be impoved and certainly it can and should be improved for TDK, as Batman is developing. However, I have to completely agree that some people just seem to complain for the sake of it and that is neither constructive nor helpful.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read on the Hype.
IMO, of course.

 

[Miranda Fox]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read on the Hype.
IMO, of course.

Oh NOES

 

[itsthebatman]

Oh NOES

Oh YESt:
Just yanking your chain

The Dead End costume didn't work for me, in all honesty.

 

[Crooklyn]

Hell, I never gave them a moment's though until I came to SHH and saw people making a fuss...over clasps and...yeah.

Just to clarify - I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting the suit to be impoved and certainly it can and should be improved for TDK, as Batman is developing. However, I have to completely agree that some people just seem to complain for the sake of it and that is neither constructive nor helpful.

I don't really think it's as bad as you make it out to be personally. I definitely hate the clasps. Did I notice it as much during the film? No, but that's understandable considering there's so much going on at once. But it doesn't change the fact that I still hate 'em.

It's an aesthetic thing, and as nitpicky as it sounds, I've been longing for the day I finally see a live-action Batman be fully engulfed by his cape when in a neutral position. It just looks so....bad-ass. The clasps ruin that image.

 

[Darkest Knight]

You won't ever be able to have Batman fully engulfed in his cape like the comics. It's not possible. B89 had the cape attatched to the cowl. And it wrapped around him as much as possible, but it also severely limited his movements. Then we will come full circle and complaints about movement in the suit again.

 

[Crooklyn]

Except it didn't attach to the cowl in the proper spot to allow full closure:

The gap filled in by the chest emblem wouldn't make it possible for the cape to surround him.

As for movement, the cape can still be pushed back during action. Not like it'd matter anyway if Nolan uses the same fight cuts as BB.

 

[Darknightnomis]

What I find interesting, is that back in the old days of 1988 (pre-intraweb) when the designs of the Batman suit came out in an issue of STARLOG Magazine, everyone was complaining (we had to write letters to the magazine back then) that An all black bat-suit would not show up on the screen and the muscle looks too fake being a part of the suit.

Now this may have been another excuse to put down the decision to have Michael (Mr. Mom) Keaton as Batman (yes, prior to the movie most Bat-Fanactics hated Burton's choice of Keaton for Batman, including me) but it was a major critisim of the time.

But since that worked out well, now it seems that critisim comes from anyone who don't want anything BUT the all black suit bat suit.

Oh how the times have changed. Comicbook fans were much simplier back then.

 

[jimmy]

Gross. That looks like some dude on roids with a Hefty's garbage bag as a cape, and a little kid's Halloween mask. No thanks.

 

[explode7]

So does anyone know how this costume change is gonna happen? Will batman be like fighting a villain and run back to the bat cave to change?

 

[Saint]

You won't ever be able to have Batman fully engulfed in his cape like the comics. It's not possible.

Not accurate. Plenty of movies feature people in capes and cloaks that close at the front; they just have to attach the cape to the suit in a different way.

 

[Darkest Knight]

Not accurate. Plenty of movies feature people in capes and cloaks that close at the front; they just have to attach the cape to the suit in a different way.

Maybe I'm wrong. But I'd have to see it done professionally, by the pros and see it work. See it not restrict movement with the rest of the costume and what not. Know what I mean?

 

[Saint]

Maybe I'm wrong. But I'd have to see it done professionally, by the pros and see it work. See it not restrict movement with the rest of the costume and what not. Know what I mean?

It doesn't matter if it restricts movement; he won't be moving when it's like that. In the same way that they had different length capes (one for fighting, one for standing around, one for dynamic shots, etc.) they should have different cape arrangements (similarly, in Burton's films whenever batman is doing something, the cape is folded up over his shoulders, and if I were a betting man I'd say they pinned it there, because it never flopped down or got in his way).

 

[regwec]

"Hi, I'm Saint, and I have a giant prick"

Thanks, Ccon, I always like to treat message boards like a big communal shower. :heart:

 

[regwec]

He has this self imposed heir of supperiority.

Worse still, he copied it off me.

 

[Saint]

Worse still, he copied it off me.

Lies!

 

[The Eagle]

Personally, I think that Nolan and the crew have an obvious explanation for the suit switch in the middle of the movie. I hope that it is lighter and a little more versatile than the BB one.

 

[The Batman]

I guess urban legend isn't quite the phrase that I'm looking for. If people think hes just a guy in a suit, that makes him less of a symbol, and less scary. There should be something of the supernatural about him. Remember the Narrows scene, with people affected with fear gas looking at huge bat swooping overhead with red eyes and mouth? Nobody who saw that would think 'Just a guy in a suit'.

Again, a guy who dresses up in a scary suit, can move fast as hell, and beat the living daylights out of you in less than a minute is scary enough. Why do you think most villains are still afraid of batman in the comics even though they know hes not some monster? Becuase they know he has a pretty damn good track record, and they know he's pretty damn good at what he does.

 

[X-Rated]

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[X-Rated]

If the new suit could look something similar to this, minus the oval.
http://ca.geocities.com/cfadw_100140412/ultimatebatman.jpg

That's what I'm talking about, charcoal gray around the torso, minus the yellow oval.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

everyone is talking about what it should look like, but from the pages i have read not many people are talking about why this is going to happen on screen. anyone got any good ideas other than acid damage or for improved mobility, which seem to be the two most believed...

what about in the comics, where there any moments that he changed his costume because of the plot(not just because of the times or the artist)

 

[lujho]

I'm sure it'll get damaged somehow, but I think the acid idea is really stupid and reaching. Just because Joker's in it, acid is the first thing that pops in to people's heads. I'm not sure acid would even affect the latex paint that the suit's supposed to be coated with, or the "kevlar" or "nomex" it's supposedly made of. And even so you'd need such a LOT of it to do any damage... it just seems silly.

I'd like to see the suit kind of worn and scuffed at the start of the movie because it would look cool:

And to see it just get so damaged through some sort of physical trauma (something falling on him, or geting banged up in some other way) that he simply has to replace it or at least make a new suit using parts of it.

Maybe strip the paint off the armour again, chop it up so that there is more flexibility at the joints then wear a heavy duty fabric over that. Or simply a new lot of armour alltogether.