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Sci-Fi Alien: Earth (Noah Hawley and Ridley Scott) | FX on HULU

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But I'm not. She was the least convincing actor in the last episode, and was particularly unconvincing as well in Fargo.
 
This was my favorite episode so far. I didn't actually think we'd see what happened on the ship because the previous episodes seemed to fill in enough of a gap but I'm glad that we did. I was loving the chaos the eyeball and the ticks were causing. The eyeball facing off against the Xeno cracked me up. It's like it was pissed off that it couldn't find an eye to attach burrow itself in.
 
I find a lot of the acting on this show very weird and cringey, especially the whole kids in adult bodies thing. I think what was striking about Alien is that the crew of the Nostromo act genuinely and feels like real people in a messed-up situation. I don't think I've found a single character like that in Alien Earth. Everyone acts like they're ACTING in some sort of Broadway stage show or something and want everyone to know it.

The Joseph actor was tolerable on Andor, but he's absolutely insufferable here. The number of times he's survived makes no sense. He's not likable at all. Also, his sister basically ruined his life, so it kind of makes her unlikable as well.

It still feels weird to me that the Xenomorphs made it to Earth before the first movie. I feel like if they and the eggs made it to Earth, we're basically screwed. I'm just not buying how all this is working out.
 
Maybe my least favorite episode so far because we already knew what would happen on the ship so seeing it play out, rather than continuing the story felt a bit unnecessary. I did enjoy some parts of it like the eyeball and even the creepy leach bug, but the rest just felt like studio mandated "we need one episode to be like the first movie".

Definitely intrigued to learn more about the eye and it being 'evil' feels like a misdirection.
 
It's feels like this latest episode should have been the first episode. We already had a good idea of what happened on the ship so at times, while interesting, this episode felt like filler.

I did like all the Alien action but the Xeno itself still looked off at times. Eyeballs alien is still the standout so far.
 
This definitely felt like filler. I'm not sure that an episode of this length with so many one-off characters could've worked as a pilot, but it was a bad idea to slot it so far into the season, especially when the outcome is already known. This flashback killed any narrative momentum the show might had, and also excluded its best asset (Olyphant). Can't say the reveal about Kid Whatever was exactly shocking, either.

As I've said in other posts, this just feels like a rehash of better Alien films with the most obvious guy-in-a-suit xenomorph of the franchise. And for all of the hate that Prometheus gets for scientists behaving like idiots, the crew here was at least as bad (and the apprentice was basically Beevis). They also didn't have enough personality to either root for or against. For most of them, their only memorable quality was their horrible American accents.

Having new creatures that appear to be close to human level intelligence also felt weird for this franchise. Their designs are also too far removed from Ginger's aesthetic, especially since it seems they were all collected from the same location.

It seems like between this and Romulus, the general public seems content with well packaged but fundamentally empty covers of past hits. There's no current vision here, no new take. At least Scott was willing to push the envelope in an attempt to reinvigorate the franchise, even if it meant upsetting fans. Boldness is no longer welcome in corporate "IP" brand management.
 
I don't like the xeno very much. Think it's the big thick neck. There's something inelegant about it at times. I love my little squidy baby though so it balances.
 
Not warning, distracting. It was distracting her while it's alien room mate was making its escape.
I guess it depends on how you view the motivations of these aliens, but why would the Eyeball happily give the slugs a chance to take away its prey? As we saw between the Xeno/Eyeball fight, they are at odds, competing for hosts.

You could argue the Eyeball is playing the long game by causing chaos, but from what we saw with the sheep it will take any host it can.
 
Something I thought about earlier is I'm not sure if I like the decision to add more types of alien creatures to the story. Now I like the eyeball on its own, I like the creepy leach bug. But we're definitely re-writing the Alien world with all these additions. As a kid watching the first few movies I fully bought into the idea of Weyland-Yutani being all "bringing back a specimen is more important than the crew" because I figured this was the first sign of alien life or something and it made sense.

Now we find out they knew about the creature since before those movies and that's definitely a choice. But also with all these other creatures the Xenomorph looks a lot less unique by comparison. Like you have maybe the worst on screen depiction of the xenomorph (guy in suit and rubbery) but you also have the creepy eyeball that steals every scene it's in.
 
I guess it depends on how you view the motivations of these aliens, but why would the Eyeball happily give the slugs a chance to take away its prey? As we saw between the Xeno/Eyeball fight, they are at odds, competing for hosts.

You could argue the Eyeball is playing the long game by causing chaos, but from what we saw with the sheep it will take any host it can.

Noah Hawley confirmed it, though. Eyeball sees Slug making its escape, and so any time the doctor tries to deal with Slug, Eyeball starts banging on its glass to get her attention, allowing Slug to escape and do its thing. This leads to the doctor putting Eyeball onto the cabinet, which culminates in it knocking over the container and escaping, which at this point was its main goal.
 
The crew of the Maginot were that stupid, the eye alien probably didn't even need to distract the biologist to escape.
 
Noah Hawley confirmed it, though. Eyeball sees Slug making its escape, and so any time the doctor tries to deal with Slug, Eyeball starts banging on its glass to get her attention, allowing Slug to escape and do its thing. This leads to the doctor putting Eyeball onto the cabinet, which culminates in it knocking over the container and escaping, which at this point was its main goal.
It only worked because the biologist didn't bothered to secure it correctly (we see the red warning light flashing indicating that the container is not locked on the shelf) otherwise the countainer would have been locked and unable to be knocked off the shelf.
Then again, maybe The Eye relied on the biologist incompetence which it probably witnessed several times.
 
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Watching the latest ep and two major things (minus the sabotage) really ****ed this crew. First is the doctor's incompetence at securing the lid. Like that's introductory 101 biology ****. You secure and lock any cage/container lid that you don't want to escape and get loose.

Second is the crew meeting where not one of those people bothered to listen to their commanding officer and acted like children, causing a secondary (tertiary?) containment failure. Malachite is a certified moron but that's entirely seperate.

Then they do surgery with all the care and expertise of children. Not even a basic mask or surgical gown. No wonder these people died gruesome deaths.

Except Morrow, the one guy who no doubt suffered for having to work with these fools.
 
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Eventhough it was pretty obvious what was going to happen I still very much enjoyed seeing everything go to hell in this episode.

As much as I love the Xenomorphs T. Ocellus is easily the most interesting antagonist we have ever gotten in this franchise.

The Fly creatures are pretty nasty too and it's crazy how cute the Xenos look in their early forms lol.
 
Fun show, while they've inadvertently rendered the Xenos mundane by over exposure, agree the eyeball-Sheep has become by far the most haunting and compelling horror element for now.
The human-synthetic hybrid grappling with consciousness/self free will etc. I feel like I've seen a million times, it's all good though, thanks to what the Wendy actress brings to it, her empathy towards all life, frames who the "monsters" are around her, etc.
The scientist plot induced stupidity is pushed beyond its ridiculous limits here, but you have to move on, it helps the story keep going. :funny:
Thought Kirsh (Pan's shadow?) and Bionic Captain Hook meeting would be more interesting, but their pragmatic coldness towards their respective goals seems legit.
Figure Kirsh is just "programed" to be inhumanly default "YES" to everything he observes, so long as it's scientificly interesting and exploring something new. Which is what drives Kavalier.
Does Kirsh have his own goals? Remains to be seen.
 
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Overall I thought the episode was pretty good and I enjoyed it a lot more than last week's flashback episode.

I have complained about the kid synthetics before so I don't need to repeat myself in how little I care about them. But I've heard a lot of complaints about stupid decision making with this episode and for me the show has almost made itself immune from this kind of criticism because of the characters in it. When you have these kid synthetics with an intellect of a 7 year old making decisions from impulses, mistakes are made. The latch malfunctioning is one thing but he didn't go for help and also didn't keep an eye on the sheep which resulted in the death. Stupid decisions but again it's a grown up kid making stupid decisions and I feel like you can't even fault the show in this case. The lack of logic in the actions are actually perfectly logical given the character.

While I did enjoy the episode it was still a bit slow in parts and I still struggle to feel anything for most of the characters. Wendy is not doing anything other than looking at Xenomorphs like they are bunnies, her brother might be the most boring character on the show and I struggle to stay interested when he is on. Kirsh is the one bright light and I'm definitely curious where they are going with him. Is he just fed up with all of Boy Kavalier's nonsense and he wants to let things get out of hand? Is it his scientific side (similar to David) just wanting to see how this plays out? Does he have another plan in mind? Does he have any secret ties to Weyland-Yutani we don't know about? Very curious to see where they go and Timothy Olyphant is just awesome.
 
Kirsh is the one bright light and I'm definitely curious where they are going with him. Is he just fed up with all of Boy Kavalier's nonsense and he wants to let things get out of hand? Is it his scientific side (similar to David) just wanting to see how this plays out? Does he have another plan in mind? Does he have any secret ties to Weyland-Yutani we don't know about? Very curious to see where they go and Timothy Olyphant is just awesome.
So, I was a little curious and skimmed through a certain parts of episode one, and there are several instances in that episode where Kirsh is there at key moments and influencing certain events in small ways. The conversation he has with Marci about the scorpion and her deciding not to have it be killed, which is currently playing out with her being fascinated with and almost caring for the Xenomorph. He’s there when Wendy decides to take the Lost Boys on the mission to the crash site, and it almost seems like in that moment he’s using reverse psychology to slightly nudge her a bit to tell Boy Kavalier she wants to go. Each time he’s pushing her more and more towards rejecting humanity, and the notion that she is human.

I did this for the other episodes as well. Same thing. At key moments, he’s there to influence or observe. His title is that of a security officer, meaning he sees, and hears everything. When he’s plugging into the ships computer to glean information, he almost doesn’t seem surprised, like he already was expecting to find something in particular. Right before Wendy has her hearing calibrated, he brings up her new ability to hear the Xenomorph confronting. When confronting Slightly, Kirsh posits the notion of if Slightly would stop him if he were to hurt cause others to be hurt or look the other way, which is odd considering this is before Morrow tells Slightly to get a person into the room of all the specimens so a facehugger can match itself onto them and deposit the embryo into the host and then sneak it out of the facility. It’s almost like Kirsh has done something like this before.

Possibly crazy idea, but what if Kirsh somehow knew about the Maginot and its cargo and planted the idea in Boy Kavalier’s head to have it sabotaged so that it would crash in his territory? What if the events of this entire series is the result of Kirsh playing the long game andnudging events to happen in a certain way to see what unfolds?

Maybe it’s crazy, but I thought I’d throw it out there.
 
I guess Eye Friend is such a good friend. Still love her, though. And good to see the 5th creature finally.

The whole issue of resetting Nibs was believable in a very corporate stupidity way. Fix the problem immediately, don't think of secondary problems that result of that action. See DOGE.

I loved the Kirsch and Marrow conversation. And Kirsch is still an interesting mystery to me. I think he is clearly setting up Boy Elon to be killed in the chaos, but why?
 
So, I was a little curious and skimmed through a certain parts of episode one, and there are several instances in that episode where Kirsh is there at key moments and influencing certain events in small ways. The conversation he has with Marci about the scorpion and her deciding not to have it be killed, which is currently playing out with her being fascinated with and almost caring for the Xenomorph. He’s there when Wendy decides to take the Lost Boys on the mission to the crash site, and it almost seems like in that moment he’s using reverse psychology to slightly nudge her a bit to tell Boy Kavalier she wants to go. Each time he’s pushing her more and more towards rejecting humanity, and the notion that she is human.

I did this for the other episodes as well. Same thing. At key moments, he’s there to influence or observe. His title is that of a security officer, meaning he sees, and hears everything. When he’s plugging into the ships computer to glean information, he almost doesn’t seem surprised, like he already was expecting to find something in particular. Right before Wendy has her hearing calibrated, he brings up her new ability to hear the Xenomorph confronting. When confronting Slightly, Kirsh posits the notion of if Slightly would stop him if he were to hurt cause others to be hurt or look the other way, which is odd considering this is before Morrow tells Slightly to get a person into the room of all the specimens so a facehugger can match itself onto them and deposit the embryo into the host and then sneak it out of the facility. It’s almost like Kirsh has done something like this before.

Possibly crazy idea, but what if Kirsh somehow knew about the Maginot and its cargo and planted the idea in Boy Kavalier’s head to have it sabotaged so that it would crash in his territory? What if the events of this entire series is the result of Kirsh playing the long game andnudging events to happen in a certain way to see what unfolds?

Maybe it’s crazy, but I thought I’d throw it out there.
It explains a lot of what I was curious about. He at least has his own, private agenda.
 
That needle drop at the end of the ep got me like

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