Aliens Vs Predator

[DoomRulz]

I don't see this movie making as much as the first because the first turned alot of people away.


Edit: I thought the first was a blockbuster smash, just looked up the numbers, it didn't do great anyway lol

True enough, but if the trailer is good enough people will come. Count on it.

 

[Bishop2]

Edit: I thought the first was a blockbuster smash, just looked up the numbers, it didn't do great anyway lol

It did pretty damn well. Opened at number one, generated over $80 million domestic and $171.2 million worldwide, with a budget of $60 million production costs! That's better than most films in either series did - however, I agree, this new one? Probably doomed for a MULTITUDE of reasons...

 

[DoomRulz]

It did pretty damn well. Opened at number one, generated over $80 million domestic and $171.2 million worldwide, with a budget of $60 million production costs! That's better than most films in either series did - however, I agree, this new one? Probably doomed for a MULTITUDE of reasons...

Such as...?

 

[Soapy]

Such as...?

...being the sequel to ****** movie, perhaps?

 

[DoomRulz]

...being the sequel to ****** movie, perhaps?

Well...indirect sequel more than anything else. Sure it'll feature the Hybrid, but it's totally separate from the first film.

 

[Soapy]

I know that. You obviously know that. But does Average Joe Consumer know that?

 

[Bat Attack]

Well considering the title is Aliens vs. Predator, they probably will.

 

[Mr. Socko]

How would they know this has nothing to do with the first when it virtually has the same name?


Watch some people confuse it for a remake lol

 

[Bishop2]

Such as...?

1) Counter-programming on Christmas never works. There is no "counter culture" on Christmas Day. Time and time again, films in the more hardcore vein, the geeky vein, which get put out on Christmas... bomb. This is not a Christmas Day movie.

2) Negative reaction to the first film. No connection to the first, you say? The entire opening action sequences takes place in a setting explicitly set up by the first movie. And it doesn't matter that there's no returning cast members - the mere knowledge that this is "AVP2" will be enough for most. Christ, most people won't even be able to tell the titles apart.

3) Lower budget and fewer creatures. Many, MANY fans complained that AVP just wasn't as EPIC as they thought the concept should be. The video games and comics have made the enterprise feel huge, and the movie kept things far more... contained. Of course, this is due to the low budget of only $60 million - hell, even the number of action sequences and Predators in the movie got scaled down between preproduction and the filming stage, because initially there were 5 predators, and the extra two Predators had additional alien fights that had to get cut. This movie's budget? $40 million, and with less Predators and aliens running around, you're going to hear that same complaint tenfold.

4) Idiotic setting/concept. The other thing that I heard most frequently from the haters of AVP was that setting it on Earth and in the modern day was deeply stupid because of the screws it takes to continuity and the fact that it prevents things from being a big space opera. Well, if they thought setting it in the most remote corner of the Earth was bad, wait until they see Aliens and Predators running around a modern suburban setting in the heart of America! The characters even include some teenagers with high school love life problems, for christ's sake!

Frankly, any two of these would be enough to doom this thing. Altogether, you have to wonder if they're killing the series on purpose.

 

[Soapy]

On the plus side of things, at least the creatures retain their old-school looks.

It's not much...but it's something.

 

[Bishop2]

On the plus side of things, at least the creatures retain their old-school looks.

It's not much...but it's something.

By "classic" you mean "Stan Winston's Aliens redesign," then uh, yeah...

 

[DoomRulz]

Was watching Aliens just now...it kinda makes me wanna play StarCraft again...

 

[JediMasterConor]

looks like no AVP2 at comic con

 

[xwolverine2]

40million only!?

wth?????????

 

[TheVileOne]

Fox is at least smart enough to see that the first one is so bad and it's too risky to spend more money on a sequel to a crappy movie.

In that sense this sequel is LOWER RISK.

 

[Bishop2]

looks like no AVP2 at comic con

And since I'm a huge Alien nut, that was my main reason for going back this year. I haven't been since 2004, when I got the first AVP panel which rocked everybody's socks and sent Hall H into screaming cheers after each of the clips that was shown.

Now I'm spending about a thousand bucks to be crushingly disappointed. Thanks Fox.

 

[Mr. Spock 2000]

Based on my analysis, it is logical to assume this movie will "suck", as you humans put it.

 

[Figs]

With the lower budget and the setting......I don't see how this movie could ever be good. Especially if it's true what someone mentioned above that some of the human characters are teens with love life problems. When are they going to realize a lot of people(myself included) want a movie where there are either no humans, or they are just fodder for the Aliens and Predators.

 

[Bishop2]

When are they going to realize a lot of people(myself included) want a movie where there are either no humans, or they are just fodder for the Aliens and Predators.

I personally don't want that, but that's me. I think we need to have sympathetic characters in order to give half a crap about the monster attacks. At least I do.

But I really doing care about this pizza boy who's a nerd who wants the hot girl at school but she won't pay attention to him... ugh...

 

[nocomics]

I haven't read any synopsis on this film,but from what few ppl said bunch of teenie boppers in the roles??. Im pretty much tired of the teenie-bopper oriented movies. If they don't get too annoying or whatever it might be okay.
I agree with other poster I just want ballz-to-the-wallz alien/predator action with humans as underdog..Far as having to have a human u can cheer for or care about I guess. Though they would need a good subplot to get ppl to like them.
I personally would love to see Ripley thrown into this alien v. predator fiasco...

 

[Soapy]

I haven't read any synopsis on this film,but from what few ppl said bunch of teenie boppers in the roles??. Im pretty much tired of the teenie-bopper oriented movies. If they don't get too annoying or whatever it might be okay.
I agree with other poster I just want ballz-to-the-wallz alien/predator action with humans as underdog..Far as having to have a human u can cheer for or care about I guess. Though they would need a good subplot to get ppl to like them.
I personally would love to see Ripley thrown into this alien v. predator fiasco...

Hell no...Ripley died in Alien 3...and she would have to travel backwards through time to be in this movie.

 

[Bishop2]

I haven't read any synopsis on this film,but from what few ppl said bunch of teenie boppers in the roles??. Im pretty much tired of the teenie-bopper oriented movies. If they don't get too annoying or whatever it might be okay.

Don't worry, most of the characters aren't teenagers. They're mostly adults. The lead is an ex-con dude, and the secondary lead is an Iraq war veteran chick. The loser teenager is just the ex-con's little brother.

 

[JediMasterConor]

Everything the directors have said about the movie has made this sequel more encouraging than the 1st movie for me. I just wonder when we'll get more pictures and our 1st video clip from the film or the first teaser trailer.

 

[Mr. Socko]

A budget of what....did I hear correctly....40 Million.....wtf?

 

[Figs]

I personally don't want that, but that's me. I think we need to have sympathetic characters in order to give half a crap about the monster attacks. At least I do.

But I really doing care about this pizza boy who's a nerd who wants the hot girl at school but she won't pay attention to him... ugh...

That's actually a good point. I guess im sick of the cookie cutter cliche characters a lot of films have had lately. Like the ones in the first AVP. I miss the days were the characters were a lot better, and just cooler even. Makes me think of the first Predator and Aliens.