Supergirl All About The Ratings!!!!!!

[Kelly]

Its interesting when you consider that for 6 years GoT started post DST, and built a live audience year upon year. On Premium cable no less.

I don't know what GoT is...

 

[flickchick85]

Game of Thrones.

 

[Kelly]

Aw yes.... Game of Thrones is an anomaly for sure. Sunday night show, premieres in the Spring, etc.... very hard to really compare it to anything else.

Premieres when the rest are down in viewership, on a night where not much else to watch in the Spring months, no football, no first run variety/reality shows so it has found its perfect place in the TV season. Smart "powers that be". very smart, and good show.

 

[famicommander]

Flash again doubling up Supergirl, along with every other show on the network

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Flash again doubling up Supergirl, along with every other show on the network

Still and all Supergirl is the 2nd highest rated show on the CW and also 2nd in total viewership. Arrow is 3rd at 0.47/1.36 million

 

[Kathemy]

That's a bit like saying 24:Legacy's average is better than Gotham and Lucifer because it had a 6.1 pilot. True but ultimately meaningless

 

[Kelly]

That's a bit like saying 24:Legacy's average is better than Gotham and Lucifer because it had a 6.1 pilot. True but ultimately meaningless

Not really....

You could say that about Supergirl's ratings last year....

But, it is solidly in 2nd on the CW....and when look at ratings you look at how it is performing within that network's other shows. At least that is how the network looks at it.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

That's a bit like saying 24:Legacy's average is better than Gotham and Lucifer because it had a 6.1 pilot. True but ultimately meaningless

No, I meant for this week. For this week so far Supergirl is the 2nd highest rated show, and I doubt Riverdale, Supernatural, The Originals, or Reign are going to go higher.

 

[Kathemy]

No, I meant for this week. For this week so far Supergirl is the 2nd highest rated show, and I doubt Riverdale, Supernatural, The Originals, or Reign are going to go higher.

I misunderstood.

In that case, both Supergirl and Arrow's last two ratings are 0.5. In Arrow's case it's 0.53-0.47 and in Supergirl's case the only numbers I find are 0.5-0.5. That's, well, pretty much identical. Not that Supergirl matching Arrow in the ratings is any kind of death sentence... Arrow is a successful show.

In fact, Supergirl, Arrow and Supernatural all have similar ratings at the moment. Will that change? Maybe. We'll see. Supernatural actually has a very good chance at beating Supergirl this week. It will only need to rise 0.04 to match its second series low.

Update: Another 0.5 for Arrow... I had a small error in my excel table.

 

[famicommander]

In the unrounded prelims Arrow actually beat Supergirl this week. Arrow was very close to a 0.6 and Supergirl was very close to a 0.4.

It will be a few days before we get the unrounded finals but it's likely that Supergirl's reduced audience is at least partially due to the return of Gotham and Lucifer on Fox, as both shows air against Supergirl depending on what time zone you live in. They didn't seem to hurt each other in the fall but with the shows in decline anyway it makes sense that a small amount of viewers switching back and forth would make a bigger impact.

 

[vantheman77]

I'm betting for Supergirl to regain its ground for the last two episodes of its second season.

 

[Kathemy]

In the unrounded prelims Arrow actually beat Supergirl this week. Arrow was very close to a 0.6 and Supergirl was very close to a 0.4.

It will be a few days before we get the unrounded finals but it's likely that Supergirl's reduced audience is at least partially due to the return of Gotham and Lucifer on Fox, as both shows air against Supergirl depending on what time zone you live in. They didn't seem to hurt each other in the fall but with the shows in decline anyway it makes sense that a small amount of viewers switching back and forth would make a bigger impact.

As you know I've always hated that scheduling. Everyone always whines at Fox, often for very good reasons, but Supergirl picked that fight. Seriously, who was the guy who thought it was a good idea to air it against a Batman origin story...

In my ideal world Gotham moves to CW for the next season and we never have to speculate about that again. Fox has been treating both Gotham and Lucifer like trash.

 

[NotNickFury]

Why would Fox ever considering moving them?

 

[Kathemy]

Why would Fox ever considering moving them?

Well, like I said, in an ideal world.

Fox would have to be mildly insane to cancel Gotham considering its performance relative to the rest of their shows, but Fox doesn't own the show, Warner Brothers does.

Pretty off-topic for the thread, though.

 

[Kelly]

As you know I've always hated that scheduling. Everyone always whines at Fox, often for very good reasons, but Supergirl picked that fight. Seriously, who was the guy who thought it was a good idea to air it against a Batman origin story...

In my ideal world Gotham moves to CW for the next season and we never have to speculate about that again. Fox has been treating both Gotham and Lucifer like trash.

Yes that was a decision made at CBS, and probably not a smart one...BUT as far as at CW. Their Monday nights are at an 8 year high....and it is 2nd as far as night to Tuesday night's with Flash.....solidly in the Fall, with of course the dip we have seen in the Spring, but still better than it's previous year Monday nights....So that has been a positive for the CW. AND, it didn't do so shabby in its time slot at CBS.

You tell me at the CW besides Flash that could go up against Monday Night Football, Dancing With The Stars, and The Voice....ALONG WITH Gotham or Lucifer depending on where you are at....and be your #2 show on your network week after week? There isn't one.....so the CW made the right move. I haven't watched a Fox show since the 1/2 point of the 5th season of Glee....so I wouldn't know how Gotham is fairing.

 

[Kathemy]

You tell me at the CW besides Flash that could go up against Monday Night Football, Dancing With The Stars, and The Voice....ALONG WITH Gotham or Lucifer depending on where you are at....and be your #2 show on your network week after week? There isn't one.....so the CW made the right move.

No, there isn't one, but that doesn't mean the CW made the right move.

For a night like Monday - where the competition is tough as nails - I would put the show on the network that would stand to lose the least to the competition. I don't think that's Supergirl, seeing how they directly air DC vs DC property. iZombie has proven itself to be remarkably resilient though low-rated - it practically doesn't matter if it has a lead or not. (Yes, I know it's technically DC.) Supernatural is also a show I think wouldn't take that big a hit. It's got a very devoted fan base.

This, I believe, is why Fox has kept Gotham in that slot for three years. It isn't likely to lose a lot to reality shows - for most fans of Gotham, that isn't much of a choice.

 

[Kelly]

No, there isn't one, but that doesn't mean the CW made the right move.

For a night like Monday - where the competition is tough as nails - I would put the show on the network that would stand to lose the least to the competition. I don't think that's Supergirl, seeing how they directly air DC vs DC property. iZombie has proven itself to be remarkably resilient though low-rated - it practically doesn't matter if it has a lead or not. (Yes, I know it's technically DC.) Supernatural is also a show I think wouldn't take that big a hit. It's got a very devoted fan base.

This, I believe, is why Fox has kept Gotham in that slot for three years. It isn't likely to lose a lot to reality shows - for most fans of Gotham, that isn't much of a choice.

I do not believe that the audience would go up enough on Monday nights to justify that move. IMO, you would lose just enough Flash audience to L 3 and L 7 viewing to lose money. Would it make more money than Supergirl on Monday nights? sure..... but not enough to justify what it lost in the move, and the fact that Supergirl honestly would probably not gain enough in ratings to justify the move either.

 

[famicommander]

It's amazing to think how different the TV landscape would be right now if the Flash setup in S2 of Arrow hadn't been such a big success. Certainly we wouldn't have Flash, Vixen, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, the Constantine revival, Freedom Fighters: the Ray, Black Lightning, or Titans.

And who knows? Maybe Fox would have reconsidered ordering Gotham and Lucifer. Same goes for stuff like iZombie and Preacher.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I do not believe that the audience would go up enough on Monday nights to justify that move. IMO, you would lose just enough Flash audience to L 3 and L 7 viewing to lose money. Would it make more money than Supergirl on Monday nights? sure..... but not enough to justify what it lost in the move, and the fact that Supergirl honestly would probably not gain enough in ratings to justify the move either.

Considering how the CW gains it revenue, as long as they are happy, we are going to get more episodes. So really, what would even be the point of the change outside of some misguided vanity?

 

[Nia]

The ratings have finally ticked up.

0.6/1.86 million

 

[Robert_Anthony]

The ratings have finally ticked up.

0.6/1.86 million

I can dig that, as the kids used to say back in the day. Then of course comes the L3 and L7's later on.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I can dig that, as the kids used to say back in the day. Then of course comes the L3 and L7's later on.

I still say it. Does that make me a big kid?

 

[vantheman77]

If the rating and viewership ticked up, it's not because of James being Guardian but rather the cliffhanger at the end of the episode with the Daxamite invasion is.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If the rating and viewership ticked up, it's not because of James being Guardian but rather the cliffhanger at the end of the episode with the Daxamite invasion is.

During this time of the year, it is so random. What's on that night, how warm is it, etc. The show is so consistent in total viewers when you look at the other ways to watch. Just depends on what that audience is doing on Monday's.

 

[Kelly]

I always have to laugh when people think the ratings went up because of what happened on the show that very night. That isn't how it works...lol You can see that in L3 and L7 viewing, but not in the live viewing...unless it's a 2 parter.