The Dark Knight All signs lead to an amusement park confrontation

I think a run down, creepy amusement park might be cool to see. Usually, Batman has scoped out his surroundings before he moves in to take down a villan or a gang of villans. But with this amusement park idea, Joker would be the one in famaliar territory, popping up in the shadows similar to the way batman does it. Seeing Batman getting a taste of his own medicine might be cool to see. Then the final showdown takes place in the "Haunted Mansion" making the setting already eerie and knowing that Joker is somewhere in there waiting for Batman would make for an intense scene.
 
I would love for the final confrontation between Batman and Joker to be at an amusement park -- totally classic. The house of mirrors is a must, but I'd love to see them battling it out on a roller coaster, maybe even with Joker throwing bombs at Batman, etc. like in TAS.

Now why the hell would they be fighting on a roller coaster?! Batman could just stand there until the coaster stops (or Joker pukes himself to death) and then grab him. Getting on the coaster is pointless.

Most ideas I read scream uncreative. Everyone has an idea that they saw somewhere else. Let them do something new and original. BE GONE!
 
Now why the hell would they be fighting on a roller coaster?! Batman could just stand there until the coaster stops (or Joker pukes himself to death) and then grab him. Getting on the coaster is pointless.
because it's a comic book. why not?
 
I kind of agree w/ mcflytrap . . . although a rollercoaster fight would be kind of cool, Batman would totally own joker in that fight . . . and it happened once on TAS . . . it is a bit unoriginal . . . .
 
I kind of agree w/ mcflytrap . . . although a rollercoaster fight would be kind of cool, Batman would totally own joker in that fight . . . and it happened once on TAS . . . it is a bit unoriginal . . . .
 
Yeah, the roller coaster fight would be like them having Robin in the movies...it just doesn't fit with Nolan's relative realism.
 
I imagine it'll be like the hall of mirrors in Man with the Golden Gun, where he has the upperhand over Bond, at least he thinks he does
 
there isn't anything realistic about these movies. let's not kid ourselves.

He didn't say it was realistic...no one is. He is saying -- like everyone else is -- that the movies have a realistic slant, as in they are more grounded in real life than other comic book movies.
 
He didn't say it was realistic...no one is. He is saying -- like everyone else is -- that the movies have a realistic slant, as in they are more grounded in real life than other comic book movies.
he said it isn't a comic book movie - that it's set to a "realistic theme" whatever that means.

at some point, people need to get over this realism debate and embrace the fact that these are comic book characters in a comic book story. and a fight on a rollercoaster or a confrontation in an amusement park is pretty comic book to me. just as a guy donning a cape, mask, and outfit with assorted gadetry is pretty dang comic book - straight from the comic books, in fact.
 
he said it isn't a comic book movie - that it's set to a "realistic theme" whatever that means.

at some point, people need to get over this realism debate and embrace the fact that these are comic book characters in a comic book story. and a fight on a rollercoaster or a confrontation in an amusement park is pretty comic book to me. just as a guy donning a cape, mask, and outfit with assorted gadetry is pretty dang comic book - straight from the comic books, in fact.

A realistic theme, IMO, means that Nolan likes to explain all aspects of the movie so that instead of just having some guy in a bat costume with a cape hunting down criminals for justice- he explains WHY he hunts down the criminals, WHAT purpose the cape is for, etc, etc... thus making it "realistic" to the general audience.

I do agree with you about the roller coaster theme for a comic book- it would be cool to see batman beating Joker's arse on a thrill ride- but that is more of a "comic book fight scene". Nolan took a character from a comic book series- and converted it into his vision, a vision where the audience can leave the theater thinking that this guy could actually exist in todays society. If you want something straight from a comic book- its been done already. Reference "Batman and Robin"... :woot:
 
at some point, people need to get over this realism debate and embrace the fact that these are comic book characters in a comic book story

Well, the "realism" is what sets the first (and probably second) movie apart from other comic book movies, so its a huge factor and will never simply go away. Nor should it. Some of the offenders, like Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, etc, could learn a little from the grounding of the material, IMO.
 
Well, the "realism" is what sets the first (and probably second) movie apart from other comic book movies, so its a huge factor and will never simply go away. Nor should it. Some of the offenders, like Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, etc, could learn a little from the grounding of the material, IMO.

right there with ya chief!
 
Sign, sign.
Everywhere a sign.
Blockin' out the scenery.
Breakin' my mind.
Do this. Don't do that.
Can't you read the sign?
 
A showdown in an amusement park would be mega cool, IMO. I know The Killing Joke is being used as inspiration for Joker's characterization in this movie.
 
A realistic theme, IMO, means that Nolan likes to explain all aspects of the movie so that instead of just having some guy in a bat costume with a cape hunting down criminals for justice- he explains WHY he hunts down the criminals, WHAT purpose the cape is for, etc, etc... thus making it "realistic" to the general audience.
it was an origin story; those explanations are necessary in an origin story. at the same time, there was no origin of the scarecrow, league of shadows, Ras, Alfred, etc., but does that make it not-realism...or unrealistic? no, but what you're getting at is that he explained things that hadn't been explained before - not on film, anyway. i agree with that, and that made the story and character a lot more interesting. i don't think it's unrealistic to expect to see a costumed crime fighter duking it out with a psycho clown on a roller coaster or at an amusement park - even though that would unrealistic in the real world, as is a district attorney being scarred by acid and turning into a criminal.
 
Well, the "realism" is what sets the first (and probably second) movie apart from other comic book movies, so its a huge factor and will never simply go away. Nor should it. Some of the offenders, like Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, etc, could learn a little from the grounding of the material, IMO.
i see those as two different things. Ghost Rider is in no way, shape, or form realism, nor could it ever be confused as being realism - or realist, or realistic, or whatever. it's a supernatural story with supernatural characters. FF and SM-3 suffered from poor writing. nothing more and nothing less.
 
Well, I had a few words with Miranda Fox, who checked with her source about an amusement park. There is an amusement park in the film, but no hall of mirrors as far as her source could remember.

So there ya go.
 
I kind of agree w/ mcflytrap . . . although a rollercoaster fight would be kind of cool, Batman would totally own joker in that fight . . . and it happened once on TAS . . . it is a bit unoriginal . . . .

It happened in TAS, it happened in DKR, it happened in Killing Joke. It's not supposed to be original. It's supposed to be badass.
 
I may be stretching here...but if (and it probably will) a confrontation occurs at an amusement park, then I'd wager we are going to hear a dark, sinister style Joker laugh. I think the more I read about the Joker, the more it seems that's the direction they will take with him. The complete opposite of say the batman animated series. Which is great.
 

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