BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 109

[Iceman]

a JL vs Legion of Doom movie would pretty much be the greatest thing ever

oh the possibilities when you own the film rights of all your characters.

Darkseid as ref.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I will also pay to watch it...only for Kate Mara.

Sam... You're a married man (that wears purple track suits... Seriously, why are you listening to Al Sharpton when it comes to fashion). For shame.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Darkseid as ref.

SS can set up for the JL Legion of Doom movie, Darkseid for JL part 2

get it done WB

 

[Iceman]

SS can set up for the JL Legion of Doom movie, Darkseid for JL part 2

get it done WB

Darskseid as REF!! (referee or umpire I guess to you guys)

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Darskseid as REF!! (referee or umpire I guess to you guys)

I think Darkseid has much bigger plans than that

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Terrio is writing JL... Has anyone any idea about what he might be researching for those films? Anything? He talk anywhere about what he may have been given as reference material? Or do we suppose that as an EP that Goyer is handling the that end?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Aunt May as Thing or Doom?

I posted the entire thing, mayne. It could be a sleep hit.

 

[Iceman]

I think Darkseid has much bigger plans than that

What bigger plans could he have than reffing JL vs LoD?!! This is one he has to get out of bed for. Highlight of anyone's career.

 

[shauner111]

Joker and Lex would be the leaders of the Legion of Doom. The masterminds. But physically they wouldn't be going up against the Justice League. Luthor would be the only possibility if he suits up, but not a lot of us think it's wise for little Eisenberg to make a fool of himself in one of those massive suits. So Rorschach i think we'll probably end up seeing both dudes lead the team but not participate in the battles. This Joker has a small role in Suicide Squad, bigger role in Justice League but still medium, then he's the main villain for the solo Batman. One giant buildup. Harley doesn't need anything more than just a cameo in JL.

It's true, LOD would need some power. That's why i say Black Adam going up against Superman. Even Brainiac.

I can see 2 or 3 Suicide Squad members turning their backs on Flagg and Deadshot to join the Legion. The other 3 or 4 members would have to be new, not attached to the Squad at all. Lex and Joker pulling the strings against Batman, Superman and their friends in the League.

To pull this off it may need a lot of work. They would have established the Trinity extremely well going into Justice League. The other 3 are only having cameos in Bats v Supes to set them up, so they need some focus in the JL film. The few Squad members in the Legion will have been established quite well but Snyder/Terrio then need to debut a few big characters. And so it's going to be a huge movie. We're talking 12 to 14 massive characters here being juggled.

This worries me. I think they can pull it off, but im worried that this may be the reason why we're jumping the gun. Maybe Justice League won't feature a LOD vs heroes scenario

 

[Iceman]

I posted the entire thing, mayne. It could be a sleep hit.

I need to see!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

As of right now, BVS, JL1&2, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and F4INO are my most anticipated comic book movies for the next few years. The latter for....reasons.

 

[Iceman]

JL is a dream for me. Like a long way above even BvS. It's a bucket list film that could easily never have happened in my lifetime. Although I guess you could say that about most of the others too lol with WB/DC's old strategy.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

As of right now, BVS, JL1&2, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and F4INO are my most anticipated comic book movies for the next few years. The latter for....reasons.

It's crazy how important SS and WW are going to be for WB/DCE. WW is the test for solo heroes not named Superman or Batman for the DCCU. And Squad is just an interesting case of if you can pull a GOTG like hit before you establish trust in your brand within the GA. These all could be potentially disasters. But... If they hit a just a double or triple with each, I think they will have changed the game and have instant parity with Marvel in fan's eyes at least. And instant parity is just lowballing it. If BvS is a big hit and SS and WW are at least solid, both financially and artistically then you get overnite parity... If BvS is a hit and then SS and WW are GREAT across the board... Well things get really interesting going into INFINITY WAR and JL1&2, wouldn't ya'll say?

 

[Black Narcissus]

To continue with the whole Superman is jesus theme. You get a cgi John Wayne to scream ''Truly this man was the son of Gawd!"

Credits.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

To continue with the whole Superman is jesus theme. You get a cgi John Wayne to scream ''Truly this man was the son of Gawd!"

Credits.

I have my issues with the Duke politically, but.... I still love his movies and the persona he put forth. I grew up with them as they are favorites of my Grandmother. Frankly, when Captain Pike is playing Jesus, maybe it's not a bad thing to have the Duke vouching for his godhood?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

It's crazy how important SS and WW are going to be for WB/DCE. WW is the test for solo heroes not named Superman or Batman for the DCCU. And Squad is just an interesting case of if you can pull a GOTG like hit before you establish trust in your brand within the GA. These all could be potentially disasters. But... If they hit a just a double or triple with each, I think they will have changed the game and have instant parity with Marvel in fan's eyes at least. And instant parity is just lowballing it. If BvS is a big hit and SS and WW are at least solid, both financially and artistically then you get overnite parity... If BvS is a hit and then SS and WW are GREAT across the board... Well things get really interesting going into INFINITY WAR and JL1&2, wouldn't ya'll say?

For my money, WW is probably the most important film in not WB/DCE's slate, but for the ALL the upcoming CBMs that has to truly be done right. Suicide Squad is an interesting novelty that works in WB/DCE's favor because nothing like that has come before it and likely that nothing ever will again so that one is going to be special. And those two hit along with the potential monster that is Batman V. Superman.....Yeah things are going to get real interesting heading into Infinity War and Justice League Part 1 &2.

 

[Black Narcissus]

WW is going to have stiff competition. Goddamn.

 

[Iceman]

It's crazy how important SS and WW are going to be for WB/DCE. WW is the test for solo heroes not named Superman or Batman for the DCCU. And Squad is just an interesting case of if you can pull a GOTG like hit before you establish trust in your brand within the GA. These all could be potentially disasters. But... If they hit a just a double or triple with each, I think they will have changed the game and have instant parity with Marvel in fan's eyes at least. And instant parity is just lowballing it. If BvS is a big hit and SS and WW are at least solid, both financially and artistically then you get overnite parity... If BvS is a hit and then SS and WW are GREAT across the board... Well things get really interesting going into INFINITY WAR and JL1&2, wouldn't ya'll say?

Overnight parity sounds slower than instant parity t:

Artistically they can establish themselves anywhere on the spectrum. Nothing to stop those beating out even better films than what Marvel have done so far. For eg many would regards TDK as a fair way above Marvel's average.

Financially you get parity when you get similar numbers and that will be when JL rolls around or more likely JL2. Marvel are just much deeper into their programme so it's not a fair fight to compare DC's openers to Marvel's Phase 2/3/4s. AoU is going to do silly numbers.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

WW is going to have stiff competition. Goddamn.

The Age of CBMs is upon us, a new dawn

 

[TheNextNolan22]

The Age of CBMs is upon us, a new dawn

I think he meant that WW is being released sandwhiched in between Toy Story 4 and Despicable Me 3. That is indeed stiff competition.

 

[Rapunzel]

I think he meant that WW is released sandwhiched in between Toy Story 4 and Despicable Me 3. That is indeed stiff competition.

But isn't it amazing to see sequels (and not even the second ones!) posing such stiff competition?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Overnight parity sounds slower than instant parity t:

Artistically they can establish themselves anywhere on the spectrum. Nothing to stop those beating out even better films than what Marvel have done so far. For eg many would regards TDK as a fair way above Marvel's average.

Financially you get parity when you get similar numbers and that will be when JL rolls around or more likely JL2. Marvel are just much deeper into their programme so it's not a fair fight to compare DC's openers to Marvel's Phase 2/3/4s. AoU is going to do silly numbers.

That's just it... I like most of Phase One, but IM and A1 are the real stand out for me with Thor 1 getting an honorable mention. It was good, not great, which is how I would on balance give as a grade to Phase One in general. A1 was spectacular to me but that's why it sticks out so much in comparison to all the other films. Now later films have been a bit more solid, even when I haven't liked them, and made more money. That's kind of what I mean. If they (WB/DCE) can make these first few films across the board REALLY good, then it's almost like the DCCU skipped it's growing pains stages and got right into it's phase three in a flash. To further elucidate... Imagine that the Cap franchise had STARTED with a film of the quality of TWS? Imagine INCREDIBLE HULK being as goo as the Hulk portions of A1 from the giddy-up? That's what I mean. I kind of think there's a good possibility that this DCCU can't afford the "growing pains" that the MCU had. Looking at the rumors surrounding the DC slate (going for Hardy, Smith, Leto... Going for Bigelow for Mclaren, having Terrio on board for BvS and JL...) it seems that they are doing their damndest to leap frog into where Marvel is now with their characters and BO clout. That might be risky or it might be the moves that will establish WB as being firmly in the CBM business.

 

[AnneFan]

As of right now, BVS, JL1&2, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and F4INO are my most anticipated comic book movies for the next few years. The latter for....reasons.

BvS, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are my anticipation trilogy in the short term. I'll be all over those Justice League movies though.

 

[Naked Shia]

I tell you, the teaser will be Lex Luthor in various settings, always hiding his head, so that we can't tell if he's bald or not, while rapping about "those dangerous aliens who need to be put in their place".

 

[regwec]

Excellent. His head should be covered by a succession of amusingly contrived objects, a la Mike Myres' and Elizabeth Hurley's genitals in Austin Powers.