BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - Part 132

[StarLord]

Kiss from a rose is such a classic. One of my favourite songs of all time. On a side note, Cara Delevingne is on the Brit Awards now, I hope they interview her on her role in the DCCU.

Fixed.

 

[UnderDog0614]

I can't wait for the first trailer! I don't even care if it's 5 sec of footage! xD

 

[StarLord]

Junkie_XL

I'm at @wbpictures batman museum!!! #iFilmscoring

He also tweeted this picture.

 

[Monochron]

I am a huge Supes fan, but the hand wringing over these comments is baffling. I don't find anything wrong with what was said especially in the context of the film they are making. Facts are they are going for an older Batman, but let's not make it like he's in his 40's and Superman is 20 years old or something. Plus, I get the issues at play. In MOS they show just how powerful Superman is. A Titan in human form. Making sure Batman looks formidable next to the most powerful man on Earth makes sense to me, and again, the "height" issue is quite negligible. Take a look at any shot of Cavill next to Ben. This isn't some shrimp standing next to Shaquille O'neil or something.

I know, I realize all the thing's you're saying make sense. It's just a personal thing. Thinking about a character that I enjoy so much having to look up to a character that dislike so much simply puts me in a sad mood.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I know, I realize all the thing's you're saying make sense. It's just a personal thing. Thinking about a character that I enjoy so much having to look up to a character that dislike so much simply puts me in a sad mood.

 

[StarLord]

Ben sure used a lot of words for that small sentence.

 

[Monochron]

You must be really great at fishing Sam.

 

[JasonBourne]

I know, I realize all the thing's you're saying make sense. It's just a personal thing. Thinking about a character that I enjoy so much having to look up to a character that dislike so much simply puts me in a sad mood.

Why do you dislike Batman so much?

The so much part made me ask. If you have answered before, apologies, haven't had a chance to read previous pages.

 

[Zordan]

this is the best one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=159fkmASPAU

 

[Zordan]

Back before Batman v Supermanawn of Justice started filming VFX supervisor of the movie, John Desjardin, said he and Zack Snyder were working on making iconic imagery for the movie. I quote "I was working on Batman/Superman before this interview, a lengthy discussion with Zack looking at a bunch of drawings he'd made on his whiteboard that charted some iconic reprensentations of ... well, of things we're going to have to try and do. Zack told me two weeks before comic con exactly how he was going to present the batman announcement, and it was exactly the way he did present it. I got chills up my spine. What i want to get out of this movie is helping Zack tell a satisfying version of these characters that nobody has seen on screen yet, but when audiences watch it they're going to say "That's what we always wanted to see but we hadn't seen it yet." Touch wood, because we have a long way to go, but the course is charted and we're set to bring those ideas onto the screen, that something we haven't seen before."

from fb

 

[Fallen Angel]

You were crap in Kingsman.

 

[BravoNolanILuvU]

Bravo VFX supervisor I love you!

 

[Sawyer]

You were crap in Kingsman.

Damn, son.

 

[Monochron]

Why do you dislike Batman so much?

The so much part made me ask. If you have answered before, apologies, haven't had a chance to read previous pages.

No apologies necessary, it's just a personal thing that I don't think I could properly explain because I've never been good at conveying complex ideas and emotions in the form of writing.

 

[fake]

from fb

That is from a long time ago (Dec 2013 to be exact), here is the entire quote

[Snyder and I] just like hanging out with each other most of the time. And that is actually a big deal, especially in this kind of a job, any creative – and let’s say technical – meshing of minds, you need to have people around you that you get on with. Projects are long and the hours are long and if you just don’t get along you won’t want to spend that time together. We hit it off right at the beginning of Watchmen. I’ve told this story before but I’ll tell it again because I like it. The first time I ever met Zack, I didn’t know I was going in to talk to him about Watchmen. I only knew his work from Dawn of the Dead, I’d loved that movie but I’d forgotten that he was doing 300 because it hadn’t come out yet. I walked into his office and immediately I realised, when I saw the 300 stuff, that he was doing it and I saw some images from it, saw that he was really doing the Frank Miller look for this movie. I sat down and on his coffee table on front of me was a copy of Watchmen and a copy of Dark Knight Returns.

He came in and was a super-friendly guy. We’re close in age – I’m just a little older than he is – and he shook my hand and said “So, DJ, have you ever read Watchmen?” I said “Yes, I read it in 1987, a long time ago.” He asked “So, what do you think of it?”

And I thought for a moment, and I looked at both of the graphic novels on the table, and I said “You know, I really liked The Dark Knight Returns better.” He just laughed and said “I do too.” We talked about Batman and Frank Miller for an hour and then talked about Watchmen.

It wasn’t that we didn’t have an affinity for Watchmen, we did but for different reasons. The Dark Knight Returns is a very different novel to Watchmen, I think. There’s a lot you can take apart in Watchmen, and there are great ironies, all that great stuff. I loved working on that movie with Zack because he got all of that and he tried to put every bit of it into the movie.

I love physics and I love science but I love comic book physics more than anything. I first started reading comics back in the early 70s, I think. It’s funny to look at the evolution of science fiction comics writing. Just look at what Grant Morrison pulls off in just a sentence in a comic, where you think “Holy cow, you made that make sense to me. I don’t know if it’s real but it makes sense as I read it.” And that’s how we approached this movie. We tried to find the theories in the comics as to how Superman can do the things that he does and we then relate it to our own world. We look at a lot of visual reference, with actual objects like planes and things like that and how they end up flying. We try to incorporate the details that are compelling and visceral but which tell the story of what the mass of this object is, or how it is really operating. A good example is the mach cones we put around Superman as he is afterburning straight up. Another would be that, in the Smallville battle, when the characters are throwing punches, even those punches aren’t supersonic, we still play it that way, and we put one of those cones around the characters’ forearms, and there’s even a little heat friction on the front of the fist, it lights up a little bit. Almost subliminally when you’re watching the fight you think that these guys are moving with more density, more force and more velocity than they actually really would be. These are the details that help us believe the bigger thing, that these are superhuman beings that challenge whatever humans can do. We even put shockwaves in on the ground for when somebody hits somebody. In the Superman-Zod battle we have windows shatter when somebody hits somebody, to extend the force of those impacts.

A lot of the credit for the easter eggs hidden in the film goes to Ged Wright and his team over at Double Negative. I tasked them with putting interesting signs out in Metropolis. We always struggle with copyright and licensing so we needed as much non-real world signage as we could get. Double Negative created them, we vetted them and let them go through. There are the LexCorp. offices, WayneTech Industries, Utopia Casino, things that we don’t have time to tell a story about but it’s part of the texture of the world now.

I was working on Batman-Superman right before this interview, a lengthy discussion with Zack looking at a bunch of drawings he’d made on his whiteboard that charted some iconic representations of… well, of things we’re going to have to try and do.

Zack told me two weeks before Comic Con exactly how he was going to present the Batman announcement, and it was exactly the way he did present it. I got chills up my spine. What I want to get out of this movie is helping Zack tell a satisfying version of these characters, a version that nobody has seen on screen yet, but when audiences watch it they’re going to say “That’s what we always wanted to see but we hadn’t seen it yet.” Touch wood, because we have a long way to go, but the course is charted and we’re set to bring those ideas onto the screen, that something we haven’t seen before.

 

[JasonBourne]

No apologies necessary, it's just a personal thing that I don't think I could properly explain because I've never been good at conveying complex ideas and emotions in the form of writing.

Fair enough....very intrigued though

hmmm would make a good topic, name something you dislike about the hero you like the most.

Superman.....struggling.....really struggling with this one.

Batman.....totally agree with under the red hood animation......countless people dying from the Hands of the joker.....Batman didn't have to kill him, but the put the psychopath in a wheel chair or something.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I know, I realize all the thing's you're saying make sense. It's just a personal thing. Thinking about a character that I enjoy so much having to look up to a character that dislike so much simply puts me in a sad mood.

Sounds like you should skip this film.

 

[shauner111]

I know, I realize all the thing's you're saying make sense. It's just a personal thing. Thinking about a character that I enjoy so much having to look up to a character that dislike so much simply puts me in a sad mood.

 

[Monochron]

Sounds like you should skip this film.

No way. What this movie represents to me is bigger than Batman and anything that I have against the character.

The DC Universe is bigger than Batman and I'm going to be there to watch it come to life.

 

[Monochron]

Another great fisherman right here.

 

[Kane52630]

Magical.

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[KRYPTON INC.]

Again... I never thought Bats was into "water sports" but, ok.

 

[Kane52630]

Again...Gotham City is a magical song.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No way. What this movie represents to me is bigger than Batman and anything that I have against the character.

The DC Universe is bigger than Batman and I'm going to be there to watch it come to life.

fair enough.

 

[StarLord]

Again... I never thought Bats was into "water sports" but, ok.

Of course he was. You didn't really think this was gasoline, did you?