BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 206

[Mrs. Wayne]

Not really..they've been wrong before and nothing happened

This. We've seen plenty of strong evidence of El Maybe being very wrong and just guessing like the rest of us and people still cite him as a credible source.

 

[Vonter-Voman]

Another thing about Amanda Waller is that we don't know yet if she's affiliated with Checkmate, Cadmus or A.R.G.U.S. Could be A.R.G.U.S., but both Checkmate and Cadmus were involved with the Project OMAC, so there's a high chance the SS movie could tie into this, if it's really OMAC.

 

[knightmare]

They'll never acknowledge/take responsibility, though.

Yea, he's already preparing to backtrack...saying doomsday was in the script but production changes happen a lot. true, but still an easy out

 

[DerekLake]

This whole OMAC blowup is quite hilarious. I've been considering the OMAC theory for a few weeks now, but what got me on to the idea initially was a questioning of why WB decided to do Suicide Squad second (instead of Wonder Woman or Aquaman), and then why Suicide Squad has such a strong metahuman focus. But when Viola Davis revealed that she'd signed on for three films, that got me thinking that she has a part to play in Justice League, and therefore BvS, Suicide Squad and Justice League are more closely tied than previously thought. Together with Bruce Wayne's involvement in Suicide Squad, that made me strongly consider Brother Eye as the Justice League threat. Then from there the evidence continued to pile up. The "Alexander Luthor, Jr." and "Kord Industries" references are just icing on the cake.

Zod could most certainly serve as the basis for an experimental OMAC. After all, LexCorp does get his body from USAMRIID, and the OMAC virus is a LexCorp/DOD creation. And instead of the Brainiac-13 virus, it could be derived from the Kryptonian liquid geo tech (you know, the stuff that can actually hurt Superman). Brother Eye could be based in the Lex/OS, and could possibly hijack an ARGUS/Wayne metahuman-monitoring satellite.

It certainly makes more sense that Bizarro (who'd literally be just like Zod) or Doomsday (who has neither the origins nor the power set concluded from the trailer).

On similarities to Ultron, there's a CBS show called Person of Interest that has a rogue, sentient A.I. that operates nearly exactly like OMAC does in The OMAC Project (how Lord uses OMAC initially). If WB went that route, it would seem nothing like Ultron at all.

 

[DerekLake]

Another thing about Amanda Waller is that we don't know yet if she's affiliated with Checkmate, Cadmus or A.R.G.U.S. Could be A.R.G.U.S., but both Checkmate and Cadmus were involved with the Project OMAC, so there's a high chance the SS movie could tie into this, if it's really OMAC.

That's a good point. ARGUS is a New 52 creation, right?

 

[Boom]

These fake Snyder tweets are just delightful.

 

[jasontodd]

This whole OMAC blowup is quite hilarious. I've been considering the OMAC theory for a few weeks now, but what got me on to the idea initially was a questioning of why WB decided to do Suicide Squad second (instead of Wonder Woman or Aquaman), and then why Suicide Squad has such a strong metahuman focus. But when Viola Davis revealed that she'd signed on for three films, that got me thinking that she has a part to play in Justice League, and therefore BvS, Suicide Squad and Justice League are more closely tied than previously thought. Together with Bruce Wayne's involvement in Suicide Squad, that made me strongly consider Brother Eye as the Justice League threat. Then from there the evidence continued to pile up. The "Alexander Luthor, Jr." and "Kord Industries" references are just icing on the cake.

Zod could most certainly serve as the basis for an experimental OMAC. After all, LexCorp does get his body from USAMRIID, and the OMAC virus is a LexCorp/DOD creation. And instead of the Brainiac-13 virus, it could be derived from the Kryptonian liquid geo tech (you know, the stuff that can actually hurt Superman). Brother Eye could be based in the Lex/OS, and could possibly hijack an ARGUS/Wayne metahuman-monitoring satellite.

It certainly makes more sense that Bizarro (who'd literally be just like Zod) or Doomsday (who has neither the origins nor the power set concluded from the trailer).

On similarities to Ultron, there's a CBS show called Person of Interest that has a rogue, sentient A.I. that operates nearly exactly like OMAC does in The OMAC Project (how Lord uses OMAC initially). If WB went that route, it would seem nothing like Ultron at all.

Exactly. It really ties things together nicely.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Which one was real?

None. Arrogant Alien wrote them all, and posted proof.

 

[Captain Shazam]

Not really..they've been wrong before and nothing happened

Oh I've seen people going for their jugular for much less. But of course they'll just block people and move on as if nothing had happened.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

More on the OMAC theory

From Wiki:

The OMACs are cyborgs, human bodies transformed by a virus into living machines to assassinate any and all beings with superpowers. The virus was created from Brainiac-13's nanotechnology, which had been acquired by the U.S. Department of Defense and Lexcorp, and was then secretly introduced into general vaccine supplies. The OMACs are featured in the mini-series The OMAC Project that leads up to the Infinite Crisis series.

Here's where it gets interesting. Reference the shot below from the Comic-Con trailer. Now, observe what's written on the crate directly behind Mercy Graves.

USAMRIID: United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

 

[Rogzilla]

More on the OMAC theory

From Wiki:

The OMACs are cyborgs, human bodies transformed by a virus into living machines to assassinate any and all beings with superpowers. The virus was created from Brainiac-13's nanotechnology, which had been acquired by the U.S. Department of Defense and Lexcorp, and was then secretly introduced into general vaccine supplies. The OMACs are featured in the mini-series The OMAC Project that leads up to the Infinite Crisis series.

Here's where it gets interesting. Reference the shot below from the Comic-Con trailer. Now, observe what's written on the crate directly behind Mercy Graves.

USAMRIID: United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

I'm pretty sure that's just Zod's corpse in there. They would treat a dead alien like an extreme biohazard due to unknown alien bacteria/viruses. It makes sense the USAMRIID would be involved in storage and/or transportation.

 

[Rogzilla]

None. Arrogant Alien wrote them all, and posted proof.

Was there more than one fake script? I only know the one.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I'm pretty sure that's just Zod's corpse in there. They would treat a dead alien like an extreme biohazard due to unknown alien bacteria/viruses. It makes sense the USAMRIID would be involved in storage and/or transportation.

Perhaps Zod's corpse has been substituted for Braniac 13's nanotech. Food for thought.

 

[phantomknight09]

More on the OMAC theory

From Wiki:

The OMACs are cyborgs, human bodies transformed by a virus into living machines to assassinate any and all beings with superpowers. The virus was created from Brainiac-13's nanotechnology, which had been acquired by the U.S. Department of Defense and Lexcorp, and was then secretly introduced into general vaccine supplies. The OMACs are featured in the mini-series The OMAC Project that leads up to the Infinite Crisis series.

Here's where it gets interesting. Reference the shot below from the Comic-Con trailer. Now, observe what's written on the crate directly behind Mercy Graves.

USAMRIID: United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

Everything is lining up pretty nicely. Even if they don't go the virus route the fact the Luthor and the government have military/ scientific contrac ties ,as revealed in the lex Luthor interview, In Both the movie and synopsis is giving me great feelings man.

 

[roach]

Was there more than one fake script? I only know the one.

I believe he wrote two fake scripts

 

[Urich Leeds]

Was there more than one fake script? I only know the one.

Arrogant Alien wrote multiple, which is why all the scoopers who reported from them (for months, mind you) were so convinced it was real, and unconvinced when Arrogant Alien came clean about his deception.

 

[Gee]

Great. CosmicBookNews are talking about us over the OMAC speculation.

 

[Rogzilla]

Arrogant Alien wrote multiple, which is why all the scoopers who reported from them (for months, mind you) were so convinced it was real, and unconvinced when Arrogant Alien came clean about his deception.

I don't know if I quite follow the logic. He wrote multiple so people believed them? I feel like there's a step here I'm missing.

Were they really similar, so they could have been put forward as different drafts, So the scoopers would have read them would think they they were just progressions rather than extremely different storylines?

 

[Clark-Kent]

The dilemma that the superheroes would face with battling OMACS is fascinating.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Great. CosmicBookNews are talking about us over the OMAC speculation.

A site worse than HH. lawd.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The dilemma that the superheroes would face with battling OMACS is fascinating.

It is the one thing that I REALLY like about this OMAC theory. I was hoping that such a dilemma would be what the Avengers were going to face in AOU. That those drones were Iron Man armors encasing human beings. But alas, twas not to be.

My thing with this fan idea is... We are discounting Doomsday/Bizarro or a riff on either on the grounds of them being "Too similar" to the threat in MOS, but OMACS are good to use in BvS as the threat AND to carry over to JL as well?

I don't know... Of course that next trailer could change my mind.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Also, some of ya'll need to chill with things being too similar to other films.

So what? We can't all of a sudden hope for Darkseid cause that bum on his chair with jewelry is out there? Forget about it.

 

[Silliminite]

It's Doomsday, guys. Stop being in denial.

 

[Clark-Kent]

It is the one thing that I REALLY like about this OMAC theory. I was hoping that such a dilemma would be what the Avengers were going to face in AOU. That those drones were Iron Man armors encasing human beings. But alas, twas not to be.

My thing with this fan idea is... We are discounting Doomsday/Bizarro or a riff on either on the grounds of them being "Too similar" to the threat in MOS, but OMACS are good to use in BvS as the threat AND to carry over to JL as well?

I don't know... Of course that next trailer could change my mind.

Maybe Omacs could lead to Brainiac, leading to Darkseid and the new Gods, then leaving room for standalone Lex/Metallo Superman film as well in between. Lots of good stuff could be ahead (in theory of course )

 

[Clark-Kent]

It's Doomsday, guys. Stop being in denial.

If done right could be very good, but more expected of course. I rather like the OMACS not using a huge villain for the upcoming movies, but still being a great way to connect with SS and Waller's role between films too.