Comics Amazing Spider-Man #533 Spoilers

[stillanerd]

From the Spider-Man message boards at comicboards.com

got it in the mail today.
1. jjj is pissed.. the bugle is sueing pete for no less than 5 million.
2.reed called pete while he and mj and may were on the phone... it was stupid... just filler material.
3.flash thompson does NOT believe its true.
4.edwin brock is lying in the hospital while doc ock, vulture, and lots of villians and heroes watch it on tv.vulture says this is gonna cause spidey alot of problems...(duh)
5.tony stark is on tv saying he has the identities of 137 heroes. if they do not come forward they will be hunted down, imprisoned....without exception. says he has a strike team which consists of reed richards, hank pym, and spiderman. which pete takes exception to.
6. some guy trys to shoot pete but pete... out of costume.. in a crowd.. webs the gun and it blows up in the guys hand.
7.spidey confronts iron man and iron man shows him a room with all the pro registration people in it. i dont know who all of them are but the ones i know are doc samson, she hulk, the fantastic four minus torch, yellow jacket, the wasp+ 5 more people i don't know.

http://www.comicboards.com/smb/view.php?trd=060623215423

One quesion: If the government already had the identities of 137 heroes (which means S.H.I.E.L.D. also had them) then what is the point of registering heroes? I know quite a few people pointed this out. Also, once again, Iron Man is being portrayed as the "heavy" despite Marvel's claims of there being "no right or wrong side."

 

[Idio]

You mean Eddie Brock?? So this confirms he didn't die.

 

[stillanerd]

Apparently.

 

[MajinShenron]

No, knowing the identities doesn't mean it's over. They have to be under Shield's eye remember?

 

[The Joker]

LOL! Classic Jameson. Peter has saved his ass more times than he cares to remember, Jameson creates super villains and uses spider slayers to kill Peter, and now he's sueing Pete for 5 million dollars

Glad it shows the villain's first hand reactions to the unmasking. Looking forward to that. Though what the hell is the Vulture doing?? He was captured at the beginning of Civil War #2.

I hope the writers don't start screwing stuff up with all these crossovers.

 

[Dyeathrose]

Glad it shows the villain's first hand reactions to the unmasking. Looking forward to that. Though what the hell is the Vulture doing?? He was captured at the beginning of Civil War #2.

I hope the writers don't start screwing stuff up with all these crossovers.

Maybe the villians including Vulture are watching the television from prison? Just guessing, and it would explain why some people were commenting Ock looked like he was coming for somewhere rather quickly (IE: being shirtless for no reason).

 

[The Joker]

Maybe the villians including Vulture are watching the television from prison? Just guessing, and it would explain why some people were commenting Ock looked like he was coming for somewhere rather quickly (IE: being shirtless for no reason).

I don't think so. Looking at that link posted there, the guy said in one of his replies that Ock was in a warehouse when he watched the unmasking broadcast.

Hopefully Vulture is in jail. He didn't specify where he was.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Sounds every bit as interesting as i was hoping for!

Im really interested in seeing Joe Robertson's stance on the current revelation...wonder if he will support JJ, and if so, for how long?

And like Shinlyle mentioned recently; How cool would it be if Deb Whitman showed up and confronted Peter about this?

Things are definitely heating up!

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm really getting sick of this Iron Man is an evil bastard theme.

 

[Carnage 707]

Well, at least a positive thing to come out of this is that we now have canonical evidence Eddie is alive (then again, alot of good continuity and canon does with Marvel nowadays.)

 

[stillanerd]

No, knowing the identities doesn't mean it's over. They have to be under Shield's eye remember?

True. But technically, if they already have the identities of 137 superheroes in their database, wouldn't they automatically be registered by deflaut? After all, Joe Quesada said that since O.N.E. has the 198 files on the mutants, then they were registered by deflaut. So shouldn't the other 137 superheroes be as well? Which means that since they already had their names on file, technically, S.H.I.E.L.D. could've contacted some of them without the use of troops. Unless of course they didn't have the list of the 137 superheroes and somebody gave it to them--most likely Tony Stark himself. And if that's the case, then he's REALLY crossed the line into villain territory by selling out people who were his friends and colleagues.

 

[Themanofbat]

True. But technically, if they already have the identities of 137 superheroes in their database, wouldn't they automatically be registered by deflaut? After all, Joe Quesada said that since O.N.E. has the 198 files on the mutants, then they were registered by deflaut. So shouldn't the other 137 superheroes be as well? Which means that since they already had their names on file, technically, S.H.I.E.L.D. could've contacted some of them without the use of troops. Unless of course they didn't have the list of the 137 superheroes and somebody gave it to them--most likely Tony Stark himself. And if that's the case, then he's REALLY crossed the line into villain territory by selling out people who were his friends and colleagues.

But the spoiler doesn't say that the government has the identities of 137 heroes... it says that Tony makes that statement. And I think it means that he's identified 137 heroes and they all need to comeforth.

That's how I'm looking at it...

 

[Captivated]

JJJ sues on what grounds?! Peter sold him pictures of Spider-Man, and they WERE pictures of Spider-Man. Don't see what he can sue him for.

But that is so typical of JJJ... that he would be angry... but I hope they go deeper. That's surface. That can't be all he is feeling. Inspite of all Jonah's blustering he liked Peter. He must be feeling a lot of different things...

His reaction is complicated somewhat by the storyline where he believed Spider-Man was his son... he didn't get angry that his son had been "keeping secrets."

 

[Arach Knight]

I still think this was one of the worst things to happen to Spidey in recent history, which is a pretty long track record sadly. I can't even say slowly but surely. It's been a rapid fire bone-a-thon of Spider-Man's legacy for the past four years.

-Powers aren't science related. Instead, they derive from cosmic nature god's that hold sway of the fate of all of the Spider-Men in history.

-Gwen Stacy was not a paragon of innocence, and instead cheated on Peter Parker with his worst enemy, for no apparent reason.

-After having been the Man-Spider once, being the Man-Spider this time, has given Peter the near useless and borderline Aquaman type ability, to speak to small insects/arachnids and the such.

-Iron Spidey suit that turns Peter into Iron-Man lite. Complete with symbiote style camo and all kinds of telescopic and armored capabilities.

-His apartment burns down and so does his aunts house, forcing him to move into the Avengers tower, which is completely funded by Tony Stark, thus meaning that Peter no longer has to really have a job, beyond being Spider-Man. His joe schmoe life is destroyed, in favor of essentially making him into Robin. Hell, he even has the yellow trim and youth to match. He doesn't have a utility belt, but his new costume can sure do a whole hell of a lot more than chuck out spidey tracers and hold film rolls and web cartridges.

Amazing to think that Stan Lee spent a decade writing Spider-Man stories from the early 60's to the early 70's...but it has taken only half of that time to destroy nearly everything that made the character who he was. And now, they are using Spidey's own mantra of great responsibility, to burn him even worse. I'm glad Stan Lee is still with is, becase I shudder to think that if not, he would be rolling in his grave at this very moment.

 

[Dragon]

JJJ sues on what grounds?! Peter sold him pictures of Spider-Man, and they WERE pictures of Spider-Man. Don't see what he can sue him for.

But that is so typical of JJJ... that he would be angry... but I hope they go deeper. That's surface. That can't be all he is feeling. Inspite of all Jonah's blustering he liked Peter. He must be feeling a lot of different things...

His reaction is complicated somewhat by the storyline where he believed Spider-Man was his son... he didn't get angry that his son had been "keeping secrets."

Peter took money (I forget how much) when he falsely outed John Jr. as Spider-Man in MKSM #8.

 

[MaxCarnage]

They are definitely setting this reveal up to be retconned. I have no doubt about that now.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

Peter took money (I forget how much) when he falsely outed John Jr. as Spider-Man in MKSM #8.

500 grand. As well there is just the small little fact, of "Spider-Man selling photo's of himself" that will probably cripple the Bugles credibility and readership. JJJ's right, Peter's was being a ****ing git. JJJ would probably prefer to have Spider-Man's identity secret over that. (Just wait a couple of months JJJ, and this whole publicity stunt of a storyline will be retconned, back to plot thread hell, where it belongs)

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

JJJ sues on what grounds?! Peter sold him pictures of Spider-Man, and they WERE pictures of Spider-Man. Don't see what he can sue him for.

But that is so typical of JJJ... that he would be angry... but I hope they go deeper. That's surface. That can't be all he is feeling. Inspite of all Jonah's blustering he liked Peter. He must be feeling a lot of different things...

Agreed. They MUST do a scene where Peter and Jonah meet face to face, and in private. Maybe the Bugle offices, after hours...that way, there is no one around for Jonah to "keep up gruff appearances for", and he can speak from the heart...

 

[stillanerd]

But the spoiler doesn't say that the government has the identities of 137 heroes... it says that Tony makes that statement. And I think it means that he's identified 137 heroes and they all need to comeforth.

That's how I'm looking at it...

Well if that's the case then Iron Man just sold out a bunch of his friends and colleagues, which pretty much reinforces the notion that he's one of the "bad guys" in Civil War and that the readers are not supposed to be rooting for the registration side of things.

 

[Thirteen Shadows]

YES! Eddie Brock isn't dead! (at least if the guy who wrote this meant Eddie and not Edwin)

Now to get the symbiote off of Gargan so Venom can reign supreme again!

 

[ZeroSuit]

i may be alone on this. and i hate hate hate sins past, and i hate hate hate the other. i absolutly do.

but i think this civil war thing...

its interesting.


im excitied to read more.

 

[Captivated]

Peter took money (I forget how much) when he falsely outed John Jr. as Spider-Man in MKSM #8.

Hmmm... you could be right. Peter did manufacture evidence...

BUT, if I remember right, the backing behind that "prize" money was shady at best, and the whole thing caused several deaths... does JJJ REALLY want that examined closely?

 

[Dragon]

Hmmm... you could be right. Peter did manufacture evidence...

BUT, if I remember right, the backing behind that "prize" money was shady at best, and the whole thing caused several deaths... does JJJ REALLY want that examined closely?

I agree that JJJ's lawsuit against Peter is tenuous, and Peter could even countersue because of JJJ's hiring of hitmen and so forth to kill Peter. Peter might even be able to site duress for the John Jr. thing, as it was JJ's mission to ruin Peter's life. But you know JJJ is going to try.

 

[Themanofbat]

Well if that's the case then Iron Man just sold out a bunch of his friends and colleagues, which pretty much reinforces the notion that he's one of the "bad guys" in Civil War and that the readers are not supposed to be rooting for the registration side of things.

But, but... the Pro-Legislation heroes ARE the bad guys.

 

[Maximum Carnage]

Spidey vs. Iron Man. I sense it.