Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

[Sarge]

If sheep aren't just farmed for wool and aren't harmed in the shearing, I too see no problem with it. I have a wool coat. Not that I bought it from a store that gave money to wool companies. I got it from a thrift shop. I guess I'm bad now.

and the problem with giving the wool company money is...?

 

[Venice]

and the problem with giving the wool company money is...?

They promote and slaughter millions of sheep each year? I would consider that a problem.

 

[Sarge]

They promote and slaughter millions of sheep each year? I would consider that a problem.

since when did "shearing off their wool (which grows back)" equate to slaughter?

 

[Wiseman]

They promote and slaughter millions of sheep each year? I would consider that a problem.

What do you mean promote? I haven't seen any commercials

 

[bluejake01]

You see, that just sounds wishy-washy to me.

Aren't you glad we don't see things the same way then? I don't know how being open to learning all there is to be taught is wishy washy. Do you have siblings? Perhaps they are different than you, and your parents know this. Perhaps they like to do things you don't. Perhaps they are carpenters while you are a doctor...would you be wishy washy if you see the value in carpentry as well as medicine? I think you would be wise in that. The world can't exist if there is no diversity.

 

[Venice]

since when did "shearing off their wool (which grows back)" equate to slaughter?

Read my post about Wool.

 

[bluejake01]

So in other words, you think anyone that believes in the supernatural is an idiot and thus not as smart as you?

You really like to put words in people's mouths.

 

[Venice]

FUR

Coats and toys sold in the U.S. and labeled as rabbit fur may be made with domestic dog and cat fur instead.

The energy needed to produce a fur coat from ranch-raised animal skins is approximately 20 times that needed for a fake fur coat.

Mink farms pollute our waterways with more than 60,000 tons of manure and 1,000 tons of phosphorus every year.

At least 70 million rabbits are slaughtered every year for their fur-it's used in clothing, as lures in flyfishing, and for trim on craft items and cat toys.

Items labeled "Persian lamb" are produced by slaughtering a mother sheep just before she gives birth, then cutting out her fetus and skinning it.

The Conibear 220 steel trap, popular with hunters, exerts 90 pounds of pressure per square inch?it takes between three and eight minutes for an animal victim to suffocate to death.

It takes nearly 10 minutes for a beaver to drown when captured in an underwater trap.

Tens of thousands of hamsters are strangled to death every year in Hungary for their fur—it takes 100 hamsters to make one fur coat.

More than one out of every three baby harp seals born in Canada each year are clubbed to death for their fur.

WOOL

Within weeks of birth, lambs' ears are hole-punched, their tails are chopped off, and the males are castrated without painkillers.

Every year, 6.5 million sheep are exported from Australia to the Middle East and North Africa, and up to 10 percent die during the 11-week journey.

New Zealand farmers pay a "fart tax" because of the methane emissions that come from their millions of sheep. Methane gas is a threat to the Earth's ozone layer.

In order to "protect" their sheep herds, ranchers slaughter millions of kangaroos and coyotes every year.

A "shearling" garment is made from a sheep or lamb shorn shortly before slaughter; the skin is tanned with the wool still on it.

Typically, 50 to 80 percent of cashmere goats with "defects" in their coats are killed before 2 years of age.

Because male angora rabbits have only 75 to 80 percent of the wool yield of females, they are usually killed at birth.

LEATHER

Every year, the global leather industry slaughters more than a billion animals for their skins and hides.

The cattle raised and killed for beef and leather consume enough food to exceed the caloric needs of the entire human population on Earth.

It takes four whole cows for every car interior.

Every year, 35,000 cows lose their skins for footballs.

Collagen used for injections into humans is usually derived from cowhides.

Although alligators may naturally live up to 60 years, on farms they are usually butchered before the age of 2.

It takes the skins of two or three alligators' bellies to make one handbag.

Kangaroos are slaughtered by the millions every year to make soccer shoes.

Hundreds of thousands of dog and cat skins are traded in Europe and are used to make products like baby shoes that may be sold in the U.S.

 

[cryptic name]

They promote and slaughter millions of sheep each year? I would consider that a problem.

aren't these animals bred to be slaughtered?

 

[Venice]

aren't these animals bred to be slaughtered?

Yep, and it's not pretty.

 

[bluejake01]

Venice...these are horrible things that happen, and the answer has always been reform. We have taken great steps in this country to facilitate a climate of change. We have outlawed inhumane treatment of livestock in this country, and the authorities are busy enforcing and defining those laws. I think it's very nice that you have latched on to your cause with such fervor, but really, you would be better off living the way you preach, rather than trying to preach. I assume you will be growing your own organic fruits and vegtables and making your own hemp clothing from your own home grown stock. I hope you don't get too cold, having only your own milled cotton and or hemp to keep you warm, in your foliage covered TeePee.

 

[TheCheshireCat]

Ok look. If we kill thousands of animals and eat them, what are we supposed to do with the skin? Throw it out? Then we'd have a trash problem. So I say don't waste!

 

[Venice]

Venice...these are horrible things that happen, and the answer has always been reform. We have taken great steps in this country to facilitate a climate of change. We have outlawed inhumane treatment of livestock in this country, and the authorities are busy enforcing and defining those laws. I think it's very nice that you have latched on to your cause with such fervor, but really, you would be better off living the way you preach, rather than trying to preach. I assume you will be growing your own organic fruits and vegtables and making your own hemp clothing from your own home grown stock. I hope you don't get too cold, having only your own milled cotton to keep you warm, in your foliage covered TeePee.

I can't change the way we've evolved, i.e. or gluttony life styles. Just trying to educate people on what they're not used to seeing/hearing.

My house isn't made out of animal fur.

 

[Venice]

Ok look. If we kill thousands of animals and eat them, what are we supposed to do with the skin? Throw it out? Then we'd have a trash problem. So I say don't waste!

And I say "if you don't have anything productive to say, keep your mouth shut".

 

[TheCheshireCat]

It is productive. I'm never going to stop eating hamburgers. So why waste the skin? I'll wear a leather belt!

 

[bluejake01]

I can't change the way we've evolved, i.e. or gluttony life styles. Just trying to educate people on what they're not used to seeing/hearing.

My house isn't made out of animal fur.

Do you have any idea how many animals died or had their homes destroyed to collect the lumber that your house is made of? It's really easy to level your little finger of blame isn't it?

News flash sweetheart...90% of people already know what you are saying...but they don't care. The precious few of us that do care can't do anything about it.

 

[Venice]

How is being obnoxious productive?

 

[Butters]

I wear animals proudly.

 

[bluejake01]

And I say "if you don't have anything productive to say, keep your mouth shut".

Then why do you talk so much?

 

[The Riddler]

I wear animals proudly.

ahahhaha!

 

[Venice]

Do you have any idea how many animals died or had their homes destroyed to collect the lumber that your house is made of? It's really easy to level your little finger of blame isn't it?

News flash sweetheart...90% of people already know what you are saying...but they don't care. The precious few of us that do care can't do anything about it.

I never said I was perfect. You'll never get far with that negative personality.

 

[TheCheshireCat]

I'm making a suggestion. Threads like this our obnoxious. I bet you're a vegetarian too. Panzy.

 

[bluejake01]

How is being obnoxious productive?

What's obnoxious about saying that no part of an animal should go to waste?

 

[bluejake01]

I never said I was perfect. You'll never get far with that negative personality.

This whole thread is negative. Am I a defeatist? no...But I do my best to live as I feel is right. It is not my place to control the actions of the world...I have more important things to worry about, like the health of my tribe and the enrichment of my family.

 

[Venice]

Animals have feelings, personalities, emotions, they shouldn't be grown to be mutilated. I'm sorry but I don't see how making jokes out of killing animals is entertaining.